Fiszman : We are drowning in cash , bitches !!!

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Fiszman : We are drowning in cash , bitches !!!

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For Arsenal supporters, there was good news and bad news from the Champions League draw yesterday. The good news is that, according to Danny Fiszman, the director and a significant shareholder, if Arsène Wenger walked into his office this morning and requested £30 million for a striker, the funds would be made available in an instant. The bad news? He has not, and Fiszman does not think he will, either.

And so the minutes tick away until the transfer window shuts on Monday and still the tumbleweed blows across Arsenal’s Hertfordshire training ground, as Wenger sits in front of the latest raft of ProZone reports, shuffling a group of players only he is convinced can mount a serious challenge to Manchester United and Chelsea this season.

The Barclays Premier League’s elite four were all present at the Grimaldi Forum in Monte Carlo last night, Chelsea players laden with Uefa awards, United confident in their position as Europe’s team to beat, Rick Parry, the Liverpool chief executive, bearing the look of a man who dare not answer his mobile phone and Fiszman representing a club who have seen some of their best players picked off by rivals this summer and are yet to respond with conviction.

In the red part of North London, the locals are not happy. An accident-prone defender, Philippe Senderos, has been replaced by one who is equally fallible and older in Mikaël Silvestre, Samir Nasri will take the place of Alexander Hleb, but it is too early to know whether Arsenal have traded up, while there is no holding midfield player to fill the hole left by Mathieu Flamini.


Some now view Wenger’s pursuit of youth and beauty as nothing more than indulgence. They want Wenger to buy, and big, and suspect that, because he does not, Arsenal lack funding. Fiszman is insistent that this is not true. His statements will placate sections of the Arsenal crowd, but not all. Many will still question why Wenger takes pride in hoarding a pile of cash where a pile of trophies could be.

“If Arsène said he needed £30 million for a striker, he would get it, no problem at all,â€

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I honestly dont think Wenger would stay quiet and let the board members repeatedly make claims about the availability of funds if they were untrue . Our boss is being a penny pinching tightwad and there is no one else to blame if we fail to strenghten our squad adequately before the transfer window slams shut .

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Post by DB10GOONER »

"We are drowning in cash bitches"?

Could have just written; "We are drowning..."

End of.

:wink: :wink: :wink:

Or, on another slant; what the hell is a "cash bitch"?? And why are we drowning in them?? :wink:

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Post by IW8Goalmachine »

to me he didn't look like he was speaking the truth he almost laughed after saying it

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So will Wenger come out and say what Fitzman says is true?
If we can afford to spend £30m on a striker why couldnt we give Flamini a £20 grand a week rise?
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donaldo wrote:So will Wenger come out and say what Fitzman says is true?
If we can afford to spend £30m on a striker why couldnt we give Flamini a £20 grand a week rise?
:banghead:
It is not the "Arsenal way" to tell you that kind of info!

I see this as another PR faux pas by the club!

Basically it tells us that although we are crying out for Arsene to sign someone to ease our fears we are not going to despite the large wad we have in the bank!

Thanks Danny!

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If we have no money as a club does it undermine our position if we just came out with it? I think the fans especially season ticket holders deserve to know but if Arsenal came out and said the stadium move has fucked us for a few years and we wont be able to spend much for a while what would be the outcome? Would fans stop going in the knowledge that we wont be buying big/star players? I dont think this would affect things with the fans. Would other clubs/transfer targets outprice us knowing that we havent got much? Possibly but if we arent spending does it matter? Maybe as a business you dont admit to such things.

The other alternative is we do have the money and Wenger doesnt want to spend and everything they say is true. I cant make it out :roll:

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Post by donaldo »

flash gunner

isnt that the problem the fans have had for years we just dont know who is telling the truth.No one is accountable at the club and the losers are us.At the start of the summer we we told Wenger had £70m to spend now it is £30m.What has happended to the other £40m. Do we have the money for transfers or not? Will someone please tell us the truth :banghead: :banghead:

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Post by gus ceasar is a legend »

This is what bothers me........

The club is so inconsistent with it's PR. One day we are all closed shop because that is the Arsenal way and the next we are waving the balance sheet about. It seems that info is only given out at strategic times when the natives are restless or when the board see a brownie points opportunity.

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40 mil has not gone missing fizzman said if he wanted to spend 30 mil on one player he could not thats all he can spend. if the board says theres money and and wenger is not saying anything theres only one person to HATE if it goes wrong this season same as there is only one person to LOVE if we win the leauge or cl

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Quicker to bring players through from our youth system ?? Cant find the right player(s) to improve the team and squad ?? This from a man that is supposed to have the best scouting network in the world :roll:
It is impossible that he can claim that we cant find a better keeper than almunia or we cant find a centre half to head the fcuking ball or a midfielder that will be the defensive rock that we sooo badly need in there. I wont even go into the whole getting a better winger than eboue or a striker that knows the offside rule better than ade and doesnt need 10 chances to score 1 goal :roll:

Something smells rotten in the club we love and the problem is where exactly the finger of blame should be pointed. In my opinion the board are playing off the uncertainty to create a smoke screen for themselves to avoid the much deserved criticism they are due. They have made wenger the culprit for not spending the bountiful transfer fund they have provided just like they blamed edelman a few months ago and all the time they are pushing some poor sacrificial lamb out into the limelight while they skulk around in the shadows :evil: Fuck the board - time for changes :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

PS Kennyken did the board also tell you that santa claus relly exists ? I mean if they said it then it must be true :roll: :banghead:

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donaldo wrote: At the start of the summer we we told Wenger had £70m to spend now it is £30m.What has happended to the other £40m. Do we have the money for transfers or not? Will someone please tell us the truth :banghead: :banghead:
No-one said the kitty has reduced from £70m to £30m. Fizman mearly said that IF Wenger wanted to spend £30 on a striker the money is available.

I don't know the excate answer but the £70m original quoted is probably, in my opinion the true transfer kitty.

I'm lead to belive that the number £70m is not soley for the transfers but also include a new players wages also.

So for example: Player X cost £12m as a transfer fee.
that would leave us with £58m if we are using the £70m as an example of the the transfer kitty. However, you would also need to account for players X wages as well.
So thats say he's on £50,000K a week over a 5 year contact thats another £3m.

That would (again in theory) leave Wenger with a Kitty of £55m.

I believe there is money to spend. We all know Wenger has never bought big. The average cost Wenger tends to spend is between £7m-£13m on good quality players.
The failure of Wenger not spending (again in my opinion) is because now his 'Youngsters' are old enough to play 1st football. It's a catch 22 situation. :banghead:

I believe we need to replace the lose of Flamoney but I can see Wenger toiling between whether to replace him. In doing so would hinder the progress of Diaby (22), Denilson (19) and Song(20).
This is Wegners battle. To replace or to promote.

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Post by Its Up 4 Grabs Now »

I’m at a complete fucking loss now!

I’ve been pretty much certain up until now that the main cause of our lack of signings is/was down to there just being basically no money for Wenger to spend rather than the cash being there and him just choosing not to. Basically just because us being strapped for cash just seems so much more believable than Wenger not being able to see the giant holes in our squad that the rest of the world can.

But I just don’t get why would he sit back and let Fiszman & Friends continually come out with these statements if they’re complete bullshit? After it happened once you’d think he’d have set them straight about coming out with that sort of thing again.

I understand completely the need to sometimes be a little bit economical with the truth (can anybody spell ironnic :oops: :wink: ) when talking in the press - ie if you’re negotiating transfer fees etc it probably pays not to come out and admit how desperate you are for new players). But as Flash pointed out what advantage do we gain by coming out with this crap?

Not only do I not know who to believe I’m not even sure who I want to believe any more!!! Would I rather we’ve actually got money but Wenger’s lost the plot and is on some sort of altruistic crusade at our expense? Or would I rather we actually are financially fucked, at least in the short term, and have to start praying Wenger really is a bloody miracle worker? :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Post by JakeN13 »

Do you really think Wenger would be happy to just stand there as the scape goat taking all the blame if The Board told one thing to the public and another thing to him? It's quite obvious the money would be there if he wanted it, Like it was for when he wanted Reyes

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donaldo wrote:So will Wenger come out and say what Fitzman says is true?
If we can afford to spend £30m on a striker why couldnt we give Flamini a £20 grand a week rise?
:banghead:
Not quite as straightforward as that Donaldo, there was a pretty decent offer on the table, but he was "too busy" with the hectic fixture schedule and was sure it would eventually be sorted out, while secretly holding the club to ransom as Flamini's agent made no secret of the fact that they had worked out how much it would cost the club to replace him and divided it up to reach their value of around 80 grand a week, so basically he wanted a free transfer within the club
................. but we've seen this before cos Campbell is IMO one of the biggest mercenaries ever to play the game, as after stringin the Spuds and their fans along promising time and time again that he was also going to sign a new contract, he left them in the lurch and in the process landed himself at 100K per week 7 yrs ago, the most lucrative contract in the game and then he done the same thing to us - Arsene I need to go abroad to get away from things so will you let me go for nothin??? oh ok Sol if you really need to then we'll not stand in your way, and then as we all know he then went to Pompey on a Bosman enabling him to sign a contract making him one of their highest paid players, even at 32!

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