Sorry but time for a moan!
Having sold Jose Reyes I was rather disturbed that 'Le Boss' was quoted as saying that he was not worried about selling Henry and Reyes as we had replaced them with Eduardo, Bendtner & Walcott.
Great!
Eduardo may be brilliant, equally however he is unproven in a league of the quality of the Premiership, plus he hasn't got a work permit yet!
Bendtner who scored 13 goals in 63 appearences for Birmingham in the Championship last season, need I say any more?! He also reminds me of a cross between Hartson & Baptista.
Walcott who again may turn out to be great but who isn't a centre forward for my money.
If Wenger is comparing the above to Henry who is possibly the greatest talent to have ever pulled on a red and white shirt and who had it all and Reyes who whilst not exactly free scoring had a wonderful eye for a ball and set up many goals for his team mates (re-watch the end of season DVD's for proof) then I think is he wildly wide of the mark.
van Persie is a great player but he has a short fuse and is liable to get suspended at some point in the season, and as history has a habit of repeating itself in football what if he misses 4 months of the season again?
Adebayor is again another talent, but a second striker who will be missing for at least a month for the African Cup of Nations.
Compare this front 5 (if you can count Walcott) to that of the squads with whom we are apparently going to be contesting the title with;
ManUre - Rooney, Tevez (probably), Saha, Smith (presently), Solskjaer - and thats without mentioning Giggs, Ronaldo, Nani & Anderson.
Chelski (who often play one up top) - Drogba, Shevchenko, Pizarro, Kalou - and then they have goals coming from J Cole, Lampard, Robben (at present), Wright-Phillips, Malouda, Ballack.
Liverpool - Torres, Crouch, Voronin, Babel, Kuyt.
I hope that makes the point!! - I think the central midfield is very strong, I think the defence looks good and the goalkeeper position is well covered.
But we have no 'out and out' wingers and a shortage of strikers - why the bloody hell we didn't pick up Ribery is beyond me.
If we can get Anelka or somebody like him the striker situation would be far better - as for wingers, who knows? Wright-Phillips would do the job, perhaps we could talk Chelski round to letting us have him as well as Diarra!!!
Wenger is happy with the forwards? - I'm bloody not!
Pav, you were going well with the comparisons until you mentioned the scousers who have yet to show that they are a quality forward line - christ even the sp*rts have a better forward line than them. I totally agree with you though regarding bedtner & eduardo being unproven in the premiership and I believe Theo will need a long run of games to lift him up to the required level and I dont see him getting that long run in this team. Other teams could get by with a forward line like ours because they have midfields that chip in with their share of goals but sadly, at least at the moment, we do not have that luxury. Continuing on with the theme of agreeing with you I would also take anelka back in a shot.
I would also take a punt on Anelka if only that he gives us a different option and the unproven/going to African Nations cup problem we have. Agreed, Ribery - I don't think we were prepared to pay the money that Bayern paid. Bayern were under alot of pressure after missing out on CL football and made there intentions quite clear as soon as the season finished.
A few queries
Walcott - He is more of a centre player than a winger. He will play out on the wing as he builds up physically.
van Persie - Short fuse - like Ian Wright, that's something that we have to live with - not base transfer decisions on it.
And I agree with Augie - Kuyt hardly lights up the world and Babel is raw (although with potential). As for Voronin, not really an out and out goalscorer. We have a few of him already.
I think if we had an out and out winger our playing philosophy would change and inject a little directness to our play (98-00). I'm hoping that with a more settled side that our midfield comes up with the goals that are there and we have seen glimpses of.
A few queries
Walcott - He is more of a centre player than a winger. He will play out on the wing as he builds up physically.
van Persie - Short fuse - like Ian Wright, that's something that we have to live with - not base transfer decisions on it.
And I agree with Augie - Kuyt hardly lights up the world and Babel is raw (although with potential). As for Voronin, not really an out and out goalscorer. We have a few of him already.
I think if we had an out and out winger our playing philosophy would change and inject a little directness to our play (98-00). I'm hoping that with a more settled side that our midfield comes up with the goals that are there and we have seen glimpses of.
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Id also much prefer our forward line to liverpools, i still think walcott can be great (ok maybe not this year which was the point of the first post), hes definately a centre forward, quick nippy,good finish and as we saw at the start of last season, he can make them as well as score - theo just needs to get a bit more tonk and then hell be way better than similar quick n' nippys such as defoe.
As for bendtner and eduardo, they are no more of a punt than babel and voronin (as said before) and i remember andy cole saying about bendtner last season that if he concentrated a bit more and really applied himself he could be a top class premiership striker - seems like arsene and the denmark coach think so too...
A winger would be nice but eboue looked good there the other day - all that rolling about on the floor might become a little less annoying for us if it gets us free kicks etc in their final 3rd!!!
As for bendtner and eduardo, they are no more of a punt than babel and voronin (as said before) and i remember andy cole saying about bendtner last season that if he concentrated a bit more and really applied himself he could be a top class premiership striker - seems like arsene and the denmark coach think so too...
A winger would be nice but eboue looked good there the other day - all that rolling about on the floor might become a little less annoying for us if it gets us free kicks etc in their final 3rd!!!
season hasnt started yet ,, lets giv them a chance,, might just get that 20 goal a season from 2 of them,, think bendner might just supprise a few peopletonysaunders wrote:I'm with you all. Optimism is great, but blind optimism is not. I really think our front line needs strengthening. However, it doesn't look like Le Boss is going to be forking out for another striker, so hopefully I'll be proven wrong and they'll all score 20+ this season. Hmmmm.
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you rate roy f**cking keaneRaM wrote:Hasn't Solskjaer retired?
I thought for some reason he had.
Have to say himself and Roy Keane are the two Manure players I actually rated.
With them gone it's all hate from here
why, that was just a thug masquerading as a footballer .. he lacked decent touch, etc .. if he played as an out-and-out defender perhaps I could have rated him .. but as mid-fielder he was just plain over-rated, and was a fraud. His so-called enforcer image was garnered from sheer thuggery ... he probably even bullied the press to write good stuff about him ..
its outrageous that he had a career as long as he had in the premiership ... he should have been banned from playing .. period ... now, dont get me started on that crunt roy keane
the baby-faced-asssassin ? now thats a skilled, but most unfortunate (injuries) player .. he made scoring goals look easy ...
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thats all i meant,, a good leader,, sometimes u need some1 like that,, adams,, viera were great leaders,, henry in my eyes not so,, sometimes u need some 2 grab a game by the scruff of the neck and roy keane was 1 of those,, yes he was a thug and not very skillfull but how many games did he pull his team up 2 wingunners-need-steel wrote:yo rebel, sure, roy keane did lead his team effectively .. for that I would rate him as an effective captain ...
but as a player, sorry i beg to differ, he was just a thug with little footie skills ...
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I hated Roy as a player (But he was good) altho i have respect for him now as a Sunderland manager just take a look at what he has done for that club fair play to him. I think Sunderland will be a good team this season just hope they don't give us any troublerebel gooner wrote:thats all i meant,, a good leader,, sometimes u need some1 like that,, adams,, viera were great leaders,, henry in my eyes not so,, sometimes u need some 2 grab a game by the scruff of the neck and roy keane was 1 of those,, yes he was a thug and not very skillfull but how many games did he pull his team up 2 wingunners-need-steel wrote:yo rebel, sure, roy keane did lead his team effectively .. for that I would rate him as an effective captain ...
but as a player, sorry i beg to differ, he was just a thug with little footie skills ...
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And it would be a bloody big surprise after that 'penalty'!rebel gooner wrote:think bendner might just supprise a few people
I kid, I kid. I wish the lad all the luck in the world. I'm a patient kinda guy (God knows you've got to be these days to be a Gooner!). Got to say; I'm looking forward to seeing Eddie in action (providing he can get a passport from one of Si(y)lvinho's mates).
