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Post by 12thGooner »

fcuk off.

Who the fcuk are you lot and why the hell are you coming to matches, stay the fcuk at home and let someone else who would appreciate where they are to attend.

So we've had a bad couple of games, but last night was not one of them. Yes we failed to capitalise on some opportunities, we kept the ball for a year and failed to take a shot, so what. When the final whistle went i was as frutrated as the rest of the block was in , but in no way would i boo my team.

Watching that game, there was no way we were going to lose,, we played a lot better defensively djouru(sp?) played well, toure had a good game. We were strong, to boo a team like that is depressing, how do you think the team feel after hearing that. AG is their home, and ours all you do is succeed in making our team feel uncomfortable in their own home.

So i say again , if you're gonna boo, fcuk off and watch the game at home.

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Ban the crunts i say :banghead:

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Post by rilub »

I'm no expert in the science of body language but you wouldn't need to be an expert looking at Cesc Fabregas last night. He looked totally frustrated and forlorn.

I've never seen Cesc look so down. His shoulders were slumped and he didn't really seem up for it. I know that players have bad days and bad games but his performances haven't been up to the standard of last season. And last night was his worst.

Maybe its just the fact he misses his mates Hleb, Senderos and Flamini. They were all very close off the field so perhaps Cesc needs to get over the fact they are not there anymore.

The teams plight certainly isn't helping matters. Arsenal are lacking form and confidence and when that happens teams tend to look to their best player for inspiration. Fabregas is Arsenal's best player but at the age of 21 that is too much pressure for him too handle. Hence the reason he isn't captain.

There is no doubt that Fabregas is among the best midfielders in the world but even the best needs a solid partner to help. Last season he had Flamini as his side-kick and I'd argue that their partnership would have developed to be as good as the Vieira-Petit combination.

This season Denilson is his partner and I think that together they have struggled. Denilson is a good player but I don't think that he is up to playing every week consistently yet. I think Denilson is a good stand by for Cesc at the moment and will be a great player in the future but Cesc needs more than he offers. Saying that I thought Denilson had a decent game last night.

I'm not saying that Cesc Fabregas wants to leave Arsenal, far from it, but I do feel he is becoming increasingly frustrated at the direction of the club at the moment. We had such a promising team last season and went desperately close to winning honours. He then wins the Euro's with Spain only for Arsenal to be struggling this season. No wonder he is frustrated.

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Post by digger »

You pay your money, you take your choice how you support your team.

I went to see Swan Lake at the Royal OH a few weeks ago and thought the pirouettes were a bit off, so I gave a jolly good boo at the end of the shoddy performance.

I'd never boo my gooners though, i'm definitely more of a "for FUCCCCKS sake!"-er. I can see why others would though. It was an inept performance, and Wenger still persists in playing the underperforming *word censored* Denilson.

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rilub wrote:I'm no expert in the science of body language but you wouldn't need to be an expert looki.... blah blah blah more boring copy/pasted shit.
And a double post!

http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/view ... 897#181897

C U N T !

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digger wrote:You pay your money, you take your choice how you support your team.

I went to see Swan Lake at the Royal OH a few weeks ago and thought the pirouettes were a bit off, so I gave a jolly good boo at the end of the shoddy performance.

I'd never boo my gooners though, i'm definitely more of a "for FUCCCCKS sake!"-er. I can see why others would though. It was an inept performance, and Wenger still persists in playing the underperforming c**t Denilson.
No, mate. Booing is off. Yeah your boo at the ballet is a different kettle of fish, your not going to see them week in week out, and there is not potential loss of points, position progress as a result of a poor display.

Football is a long game made up of smaller performances and booing has a psycological affect on the players and can affect matches days even weeks down the road. I want my team to do well and wouldn't want to do anything to affect their performance and booing is one of those things that can have a serious adverse affect on the club.

Remember the debates as to booing Ade at the start of the season and how the general concensus was not to, even though he's a money grabbing whore, as we need him to be confident in his game as he still plays for the club, the same logic must be applied here.

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Post by gooner_4_Life 1991 »

digger wrote:
rilub wrote:I'm no expert in the science of body language but you wouldn't need to be an expert looki.... blah blah blah more boring copy/pasted shit.
And a double post!

http://www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/view ... 897#181897

C U N T !
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Post by digger »

I agree that booing can impact on confidence (ie, if it happens every time you touch the ball you get booed), but at the end of 90 mins when no player has given 100% I can understand it.

I think a few less people would have booed if we still gave it our all for the second half. Only Toure seemed to be up for it, the rest of them were sauntering around preparing themselves for the weekend.

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Post by Chippy »

As I said elsewhere, I have never booed an Arsenal palyer in more than 40 years. And I have seen a lot of shite in that time. :roll:

As said above, the psychology is really important and will not be helped by the team feeling their own "supporters" are against them.

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Post by Goonanana »

Just a thought but maye some people were booing Fenerbache for parking the team bus in front of the goal rather than coming out and attacking us like we were promised

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Goonanana wrote:Just a thought but maye some people were booing Fenerbache for parking the team bus in front of the goal rather than coming out and attacking us like we were promised
I think there were a lot of neutrals at the game... tickets were easy to get hold of and they probably thought it would be an entertaining game.

But I think people were booing at no wins in 3.

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Goonanana wrote:Just a thought but maye some people were booing Fenerbache for parking the team bus in front of the goal rather than coming out and attacking us like we were promised
This is an issue, as I have booed dirty cheating crunts like Cashley and Shrek off the pitch, or useless refs like Riley, Wiley, Smiley, Kiley.... :oops: Hope our lads realised this and were not thinking it was them. :?

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Post by RaM »

How many were at that game?

Looked nowhere near full on tv.

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Post by crocit »

i totally agree, i heard the booing, if the person wasw near me, i wud probably end up fighting with them, they are pricks imo

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Post by SPUDMASHER »

Personally I have never boo-ed an Arsenal player or team but I can understand why some do it.
Lets look at the reasons that people are unhappy with our current situation:-
1. We have a team that lacks experience and know-how.
2. We have had a few bad results recently.
3. The whole world can see our weaknesses but our manager cannot/will not accept them.
4. We are falling away from our rivals and slowly becoming a perpetual also ran.
5. We have been given a series of promises that have not materialised.
6. We pay the highest ticket prices in the UK yet do not see the top talent playing for our club.
7. We were supposed to be competing with the top teams once we moved to our new stadium.
8. We are being embarrassed by our managers comments to the press etc.

and so on.........

Now lets look at the ways in which we can show our feelings:-

1. ????????

And that's why I can understand people boo-ing.

At our recent AGM Wenger was asked a few questions that we all want answered but very cleverly side stepped them.
The days when players/club officials were accessible to fans have long gone. Apart from the AGM you cannot get to them to ask the questions any more.
Hill Wood even publicly stated that one of the most important things about running a football club was not doing what your supporters want you to do, but doing what you want to do. That was basically a message to fans telling them that if they don't like it they can fuck off as there are plenty out there to take their place.

The only way you would get anywhere is for Jeremy Paxman to be given all the facts and then conduct one of his "That wasn't what I asked you" style of interview with Wenger. Then you might get the truth and Wenger would not be able to hide behind any lies/smokescreens.

Until that happens (which it never will) you can forget it. Nothing will change.
There is pretty much only one way the fans can let AW and the board, and to a lesser degree the players, know how they feel. That is by boo-ing. Unfortunately that activity is more likely to affect the players, not those that it needs to.
As I said, I've never done it and I never will, but I can understand why some people do. They obviously feel it is the only way they can get their feelings across.

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