Coward Webb

Post by **SPUDMASHER** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:17 pm

Spuds v Blackburn (or was it Stoke) this season had 11 minutes I think.

If you think about it, Almunia was down for approx 2 minutes. There were 6 substitutions, each representing 30 seconds, so there is a further 3 minutes. Add them together and you have 5 minutes without any other time for any other incident.
I don't doubt that 6 minutes was a fair time to add but I must admit I was gutted when I saw the board go up with it on.

Post by **Belfast Boy** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 12:30 pm

That is a completely fair point Spuddy, and we all know it, Almunia was down for ages, the subs etc. but a awful lot of games have those ingredients without 6 mins being added, no matter what way you look at it 6 mins is well above average and be honest didn't we all know at the time that cos we were beating Utd 2 - 0 and we had those delays that it was coming???

Block91Broox · Post by **Block91Broox** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:09 pm

The ref was not in a good position to see the tug on Nasri but he didn't even look at his Assistant who was in a perfect position to see it.

Plus he was in the same position when sagna tugged back Park in an identical situation yet as it was outside the box he was happy to give the foul & book Sagna.

I thought the Carrick foul on Diaby that was not given was a shocker.

The ref was definately trying to help the draw.

Arsenal fans are some of the most educated as to why the referee's are like they are.

Howard Webb is also terrified of Fergurson.

The Referee was Booed off at half time and at full time as he is usually yet there was no mention of us booing the team, which is how the booing is usually reported...........funny that!

Post by **SPUDMASHER** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:09 pm

Well Fergusmoan was straight after the fourth official reminding him to add the time on whilst Aluminium was still on the ground. He doesn't miss a trick. does he

Magic Hat · Post by **Magic Hat** » Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:49 pm

Howard Webb is also terrified of Fergurson.

and yet he never gave Man U the blatant penalty they should have had

The ref was not in a good position to see the tug on Nasri but he didn't even look at his Assistant who was in a perfect position to see it.

maybe because the linesmen made no signal? If wearing the communication thingamajigs, would have heard the linesmen call

Plus he was in the same position when sagna tugged back Park in an identical situation yet as it was outside the box he was happy to give the foul & book Sagna.

maybe he could actually see it?

I thought the Carrick foul on Diaby that was not given was a shocker.

I thought the tackle by Silvestere was a shocker, did he ever got booked for that challenge from behind?

Post by **Belfast Boy** » Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:14 pm

Well Mr. Hat all we ask from a ref is that he gets the big decisions right, and while I don't blame him at all for missing our penalty claim, he completely bottled the Carrick/Diaby one, so c'mon Magic tell us how he managed to "miss" that one when it was quite clear from the chorus of boos that echoed round the ground that everyone else in the stadium managed to see that Carrick got absolutely nowhere near the ball and yet Webb couldn't have been more than 5 yards away???

and BTW Sky had had Dermot Gallagher on and he said that he also would not have awarded ManUre a pen for Clichy's "blatant" handball as you put it, as he had tried to get his arm out of the road and it only grazed the upper side of his elbow, and that would have definately influenced Webb's decision!

And it completely fucks me off that Rooney continues to show his thuggish temper and get away scot free while players like RvP get straight reds

SCREAM AIM FIRE · Post by **SCREAM AIM FIRE** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:57 am

ambarron wrote:6 MINUTES

when was the last time in ANY GAME you saw 6 mins injury time!!!!

anyway made it all the sweeter they couldnt score in all that time

birmingham last season, wernt it like 46 minutes or somthing

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:51 am

Christ. I cannot believe anyone is actually defending Howard Webb.... He was shit throughout the entire game. He got so many decisions wrong (for both sides) that it was unbelievable. Bad bad performance from him.

And when is a fucking ref gonna get the balls to take action against Rooney??!! It's getting like "Elbows" Shearer all over again. Ooh, I can't book him, he plays for England... FFS...

Magic Hat · Post by **Magic Hat** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 8:57 am

Belfast Boy wrote:Well Mr. Hat all we ask from a ref is that he gets the big decisions right, and while I don't blame him at all for missing our penalty claim, he completely bottled the Carrick/Diaby one, so c'mon Magic tell us how he managed to "miss" that one when it was quite clear from the chorus of boos that echoed round the ground that everyone else in the stadium managed to see that Carrick got absolutely nowhere near the ball and yet Webb couldn't have been more than 5 yards away???

and BTW Sky had had Dermot Gallagher on and he said that he also would not have awarded ManUre a pen for Clichy's "blatant" handball as you put it, as he had tried to get his arm out of the road and it only grazed the upper side of his elbow, and that would have definately influenced Webb's decision!

And it completely fucks me off that Rooney continues to show his thuggish temper and get away scot free while players like RvP get straight reds

Yes because the Arsenal fans are not going to be biased are they, the ref should judge his decision by home crowd wishes

Maybe from the position he was at, he thought Carrick got enough on the ball or that contact with Diaby was minimal.

His hand was high up in the air, made no movment back down and he had enough time to withdraw it. How is it not a penalty? I fear mr Gallagher is wrong

Rooney is English wonder boy, what do you expect?

Bad bad performance from him

I'm not saying it wasn't bad. I'm saying it wasn't biased to bring Man U a glorious victory as somebody is alleging

Post by **Belfast Boy** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:52 pm

Magic Hat wrote:Yes because the Arsenal fans are not going to be biased are they, the ref should judge his decision by home crowd wishes Maybe from the position he was at, he thought Carrick got enough on the ball or that contact with Diaby was minimal.

His hand was high up in the air, made no movment back down and he had enough time to withdraw it. How is it not a penalty? I fear mr Gallagher is wrong

Rooney is English wonder boy, what do you expect?

Magic you're such an idiot sometimes, as everybody knows you can always tell by how the vast majority of players and fans react to something what really happened so do something for once Magic, be honest, when was the last time you heard a chorus of boos like that go round the Emirates and if he can't tell it's a free kick when Carrick catches Diaby's trailing leg when the ball was about 3 - 5 feet away beside diaby's front leg then what's he doin refereeing anything nevermind the biggest fixture on the calendar???

Magic did you watch the same game I did??? now no-ones denyin that the ball hit Clichy's arm and maybe even that some refs would've give it, but you have to throw your arms up in order to jump up and how can you say that he never attempted to get his arm out of the way when he clearly swung his arm right round almost behind his back in order to do so

Rooney is English wonder boy so what do I expect??? I expect the man considered to be our top referee to be objective and do his job, and the fact that he can blatantly discriminate when handing out cards in front of 60,000 people and the rest of the watching world cos I personally don't know anyone who didn't see it no matter what their affiliations is quite frankly ominous, and does not bode to well for our chances with other refs as he is s'posed to be setting an example and if he bottles it so will the rest of them!

................ and be under no illusions Magic if you can go into a match and play more or less as physical game as you want without fear of sanction unless you get really out of order that gives you a pretty big advantage which allied to the fact that you are already an exceptional player in a team full of exceptional players along with a manager that even the authorities are shit scared of who are all in the service of the biggest club in the world then it becomes pretty clear why these things decide seasons, talk about a stacked deck??? a prime example the 50th unbeaten game, we were never gonna be allowed to win that game, we were fuckin robbed that day and were subsequently never the same team

TheOne2Smooth · Post by **TheOne2Smooth** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:29 pm

Coward Plebb has ref'd this fixture for the last 3 years! we need a different ref! in Comparision the Referee last night done very well! I know totally different games!

Post by **DB10GOONER** » Wed Nov 12, 2008 5:55 pm

TheOne2Smooth wrote:Coward Plebb has ref'd this fixture for the last 3 years! we need a different ref! in Comparision the Referee last night done very well! I know totally different games!

Still, a relevant point. Last night he let it flow and got most of the big decisions right.