Official Wenger out thread

[GadgetMan]

Would Jose get in there and read them the riot act?

Gun me down here boys if you think i'm well of the mark but i "feel" he would be someone that could get us going.

Question is with Jose, how long would he be there, do a clean sweep in 2 / 3 seasons then he'll be on his bike... again!

consider yourself gunned down!!!

Mourinho? FFS!!! I hate the b@[email protected]'d destroy everything Arsenal stand for...I'd almost take mclaren (actually, on second thoughts...maybe not!)

[QuartzGooner]

If he can sign 2 or 3 tough guys with experience to give the team a back bone and if those guys are not CL tied (I don't ask for much do I?), we might still have a chance in the CL, and who knows the youngsters might do something in the other cups.

That is what January is for..a crucial time.

January becomes biggest month of Wenger's career at Arsenal.

Central Defender, Defensive Midfielder and utility defensive player needed.

Would not ask for Wenger to go even if we finish 5th in League though, one bad season is not enough for me to lose faith because I would wait and see who he could sign in the summer.

[skipper]

Gadget Man,

Gus Hiddink.

[GadgetMan]

If he can sign 2 or 3 tough guys with experience to give the team a back bone and if those guys are not CL tied (I don't ask for much do I?), we might still have a chance in the CL, and who knows the youngsters might do something in the other cups.

That is what January is for..a crucial time.

January becomes biggest month of Wenger's career at Arsenal.

Central Defender, Defensive Midfielder and utility defensive player needed.

Would not ask for Wenger to go even if we finish 5th in League though, one bad season is not enough for me to lose faith because I would wait and see who he could sign in the summer.

absolutely correct...football (like everything else) goes in cycles...you have ups, you have downs...LPool ruled the 70s and early 80s then very litle for the past 20 years, MUFC ruled the late 80s and most of the 90s...the Chavs won 2 titles after 50 years...we've also had our bite of the cherry over the past 10 years....things are down right now but they will improve...AW is best placed to make that happen...anyone who thought we'd have interrupted success year on year was kidding themselves...

[GadgetMan]

Gadget Man,

Gus Hiddink.

an you think Abramovich would release him from his contract with Russia to come and manage us?

[skipper]

Gadget Man,

Gus Hiddink.

an you think Abramovich would release him from his contract with Russia to come and manage us?

is he some kind of slave?

[Rob]

Mourinhio is unquestionably a great Manager but he's on a 3 year megga deal with Inter and will see that out.

Of the current EPL Managers only Moyes and O'Neill could really fit. Elsewhere there's Van Basten, Klinsman, Bilic or Rijkard.

Like I said, there would not be any shortage of possibilities.

The one point Gadgetman made that was valid was to highlight DD's absence. Not to mention no Chief Exec., still

One would not rely on Hil-Wood and Fizman to pour a pint of lager let alone anything more demanding.


I have this uneasy feeling that we may see a change at the top of the Board before we see a change of Manager.

What is certain is that Arsenal are being mis-managed both on and off the pitch as we speak. There was a post on here before the Villa game where the overwhelming feeling was that Arsenal were sure to get fourth.

One poster said it was " a nailed on certainty" (sic)

I wonder who thinks that now ?

[GadgetMan]

Gadget Man,

Gus Hiddink.

an you think Abramovich would release him from his contract with Russia to come and manage us?

is he some kind of slave?

of course he isnt a slave...but no doubt, he'll be under contract...and if he wants to be released from that contract, then BOTH sides will have to agree to it...why do you think RA hired GH...cos he's a bloody great manager...a legend, who's proved himself time and time again...

why would RA release him to come and manage us...ask yourself that? RA knows he'd have evrything to lose and nothing to gain from letting GH go...

[Cockerill's chin]

GadgetMan I think the cycles argument is outdated. The waves of success have become more predictable since the 1990's when money has played a more significant part.

Our obsession with making transfer window profits and leading the world of football in bargain buys has taken us backwards. Ironically this has been at a time when the fans finacial contribution and the shares appreciation have soared.

You could argue we have only accelerated an inevitable process as clubs owned by billionaires are the only ones who will compete in the future.

[xDAVEYx]

he MUST be given the chance to sort his mess out in january, if, by the end of the season we are going nowhere, i feel that it would be opportune to part company with le boss.

the only person in the world id like to take the reigns is:



its a dark day at arsenal, but the light will return one day, it always does

RED ARMY!!

[skipper]

he MUST be given the chance to sort his mess out in january, if, by the end of the season we are going nowhere, i feel that it would be opportune to part company with le boss.

the only person in the world id like to take the reigns is:



its a dark day at arsenal, but the light will return one day, it always does

RED ARMY!!

This can actualy work if Wenger decides to move 'upstairs'...

[Deise Gooner]

He came out with the usaul bullshit at the end of the game today

"I think we had enough focus and gave everything. It is not always negative and we have to take the positives and keep the belief. In a big club you have to go through these periods, and how we deal with it will shape our future."

WHAT FUCKING POSITIVES

[xDAVEYx]

bendter looks good in pink?

[GadgetMan]

GadgetMan I think the cycles argument is outdated. The waves of success have become more predictable since the 1990's when money has played a more significant part.

Our obsession with making transfer window profits and leading the world of football in bargain buys has taken us backwards. Ironically this has been at a time when the fans finacial contribution and the shares appreciation have soared.

You could argue we have only accelerated an inevitable process as clubs owned by billionaires are the only ones who will compete in the future.

yes I cant disagree with anything you say...its obviously become far more difficult to compete...once there was only MUFC...then there was Chelski...now we've got LPool, MCity, Villa...all have got big outside investment coming in from outside that we dont have at the moment...

what i was getting angry about was that we arent even half way thru the season and people are screaming to get rid of AW as if that is the simple answer...IT ISNT...

getting rid of AW is not the answer...he knows the club better than anyone else...give him a chance...lets get to january...lets even see what he does in the summer...he might have more money to play with then too from the Highbury flat sales...he could also justifiably go to the board and demand some more financial support...and that might also mean going down the Kroenke route too...

he'll know the problems better than anyone else...if he was just forging ahead with THE GREAT YOUTH PLAN, then I think he'll now see that it isnt working...he'll get some older heads in...

bottom line...I trust AW to put things right...what i worry about most is that at some time soon he might just say 'Fuck it...i cant stand this pressure anymore' ...and just walk away...that would be a disaster...but if the fans get on his back...start booing his players every game etc...he might just walk away....then what would the immediate future hold...?

to those people who are screaming for his head, all i would say is be careful what you wish for...

I dont have a rose tinted view that AW will be there forever...but any succession should be planned...thats the only way to do it...the 'other' way is to do it the y***s way...(10 years, 10 managers (or somethign stupid like that!)

[augie]

I understand where you are coming from gadget man I really do but as I pointed out before the reason there is a serious lack of confidence in wenger is that most of us believe he isnt even seeing our shortcomings much less correcting them I agree 100% that we would all prefer to see wenger being the man to turn this mess around but this is largely his bloody mess and he has to recognise this and really really make inroads to rectify the situation in january for me. This situation is not going to be fixed overnight so I am not expecting to come out feb 1st with everything rosy in the garden again but he has to show enough in the transfer market in jan to suggest that he is willing to be as ruthless as the job demands. If he fails to do fcuk all in the jan transfer window then personally I would release him or move him upstairs on feb 1st and I cannot agree with those suggesting that he should be given another 2 transfer windows to convince just cos he fcuked up by doing bugger all in the last 3 or 4 transfer windows

I also meant to tackle the point made earlier by wenger defenders on this forum that if he goes we will lose a lot of players - can you tell me what has been happening in the last year anyway when we have lost flamoney, diarra and hleb who wenger said he didnt want to lose and are looking odds on to lose cesc next summer I think wenger may even be a small part of the underlying problem with some of the players anyway in that they see themselves playing for arsene fc and not Arsenal FC so when he spouts about happy he is with them they are contented enough instead of busting a gut to serve the club and the fans

Look someday this club are going to have to sail without the captain wenger guiding us and while that will be a sad day for all Gooners it is a reality we are going to have to face. The timing of that day though is the variable that is up for discussion and how fast it comes will depend on the performance of le boss. Personally when wenger goes I would opt for rijkard over any of the other options