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Post by EC3 »

I'd give Cilla one, bet's she filth.

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EC3 wrote:I'd give Cilla one, bet's she filth.
once again WHY!

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As i said she's is filth.

Imagine those chops doing the business on you, plus she could entertain you with that wonderful voice she has.

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I bet Cliff Richard has done her up the wrong un!

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gus ceasar is a legend wrote:I bet Cliff Richard has done her up the wrong un!
More likely to be the other way round :|

How do fucking regional TV presenters get on TV in London anyway, spreading their "working class" "humour" and gingerness :(

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gus ceasar is a legend wrote:I bet Cliff Richard has done her up the wrong un!
The Peter Pan of pop is a wrong un.

Plus don't bad mouth Black.

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Sean Connery was interviewed by Michael Parkinson and bragged that despite being 72 years of age he could still have sex 3 times a night.

Cilla Black, who was also a guest, looked intrigued. After the show Cilla said, "Sean, if I'm not bein too forward, I'd luv to 'ave sex with yer. Lets go back to my ouse, we could 'ave a lorra fun.

So they went back to her place. After a couple of drinks they went off to bed and had an hour of mad passionate sex together.

Afterwards, Sean says, "If you think that was good, let me shleep for half an hour, and we can have better shex. But while I'm shleeping, hold my bawls in your left hand and ma wullie in your right hand".

Cilla looks a bit perplexed but says "alright chuck".

He sleeps for half an hour, awakens, and they have even better sex than before. Then Sean says, "Cilla, that was wonderful. But if you let me shleep for an hour, we can have the besht shex yet. You'll have to......."

"I know Sean. Yer want me to 'old onto yer bat 'n balls again. No problem hun".

Cilla complies with the routine. The results are absolutely mind blowing.

Once it's all over they have a drink, Sean lights a cigarette, and Cilla asks "Sean, tell me, dis 'oldin yer balls in one hand and yer willie in de other - does it really stimulate yer dat much?"

Sean replies, "No, not at all Cilla, but the last time I shlept with a scouser , the bitch stole ma wallet!"






Iknow it's an old joke but it tells how the scousers really are.
Just hope they dont nick anything on Sunday.

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Radford149 wrote:questions

1. why still the victim mentality?)
I don't agree with the word 'victim' but it goes back to the late 70s/80s, when the city of Liverpool was fucked over by the tory goverment and lost the majority of its industry.

you don't agree with the word victim but i see you agree with the sentiments, however lots of areas lost their main employers over the past 40 years so i don't buy your argument.

True but I think Liverpool was fucked over more than most back then. Certainly in terms of a big city. We lost nearly our whole industry, with the docks and manufacturing and the city was on its arse in the 80s and that's had repercussions, in terms of our society. There was no work going at all here because all our jobs were taken, whereas in the south, there was the whole 'loadsamaney greed is good' culture going on and it pissed alot of us off.

Liverpool I admit, is also an insular place, with a fuck you attitude to the rest of the country. As far as scousers tend to see it, the rest of the country fuckin well hate us and give us shit all the time, so we tend to have alot to defend ourselves about.
Radford149 wrote: 2. do you feel any guilt about the fact that your actions have directly caused the advent of the souless new stadia that have been built??)
Yes but having been at Heysel and Hillsborough, its not all the fault of Liverpool fans. Heysel was an absolute wreck of a stadium and the organisation was a complete shambles. Some Juventus fans spat at LFC fans through poor segregation, some of our fans reacted, the Italians fled and the wall collapsed. Hooliganism happened everywhere back then and yes we can feel guilt for that but if someone spits in your face, then you tend to react.

glad to hear a mickey admit to some guilt (fair play to you). but to blame fans spitting and a poor ground for the excuse of 39 deaths is bollocks. i would like to know if liverpool fc ever said sorry to Juve fans or if any official or unofficial supporters clubs connected to liverpool have ever offered condolences on the anniversary of the heysel tragedy of have you conveniently airbrushed that incident from your history?

No, we haven't ignored it. Its been commemorated in many ways. In terms of on the pitch selling Ian Rush to them, was almost ldone as a token apology and bridge building. Before we played Juventus in 2005, we offered the hands of friendship and apologised before the tie but they turned their backs on us, which is understandable I suppose.

I'm not using the spitting thing and them throwing things into our end as an excuse but if someone spits in your face, its hard not to react. We know its wrong and those who ran at them were wrong but hooliganism was par for the course back then and our fans were as bad as most and reacted. I just think that the Juventus ultras who started the trouble are as much to blame as we were but that's never been admitted. We would never have caused trouble in a European Cup final, unprovoked. We'd had one big party that day and weren't out for any trouble at all, until they started acting up before the game. What resulted was an awful tragedy but the stadium was a death trap, with awful segregation. I think that's all fair enough to point out.

With regards to Hillsborough, then certain people have blood on their hands. Including the FA, Duckenfield and the Sheffield police. If you want to educate yourself on the subject, by a copy of the excellent and horrifying "Hillsborough: The Truth" or have a look at the website www.contrast.org/hillsborough

another tragedy and a waste of life, whilst i respect what you have written i still cannot get over the fact that your fans without tickets tried to get in. hillsbrough had held many a semi-final so the police etc were used to dealing with the crowds expected. what they were not used to were the hoards of your mob trying to gain illegal entry

We played an fa cup semi final at Hillsborough in 1988. We had the same smaller end, inexplicably and there was a small crush then. We advised the fa to give us the bigger end but it fell on death ears. Forest struggled to even sell out the bigger end.

Yes fans turned up without tickets and they always did back then. It was the way football was. The police opened the gates (which they at first said the fans forced them open, which was a lie) and when we got into the Leppings Lane end, we were forced into the overcrowded middle pens. The other pens at the side, has plenty of room but everyone was forced into the same place.


Radford149 wrote:
3. why do your fans STILL continue to arrive at grounds without tickets and then rush the gates in an attempt to gain entry???)
Some do I admit. That wasn't what caused Heysel or Hillsborough though. Any decent organisation and venue and our fans have never had problems.
Radford149 wrote: 4. will your club really ever get rid of the fact that it is impossible for black local players to go through the ranks at your club??)
What's skin colour got to do with it? If your good enough, you're good enough. No-one has broken through since Gerrard anyway. I remember Howard Gayle back in the day.

1. skin colour is the whole point of the question

2. the fact that you mention howard gayle sums up my point. right here we go.

liverpool as a city along with bristol and london is one of the oldest black communities in the country. your policy along with the toffees has been racist in its execution and an affront to all the non-white players who have been looked over in your teams quest maintain an apartheid type hold over who you select.

the fact that ONLY Howard Gayle is the only person who seems to have played IS a MAJOR stain on your club and city. i ask anyone to speak to Howard Gayle and ask him about the shit he had to go through.

sorry but you should all feel ashamed and should have asked questions long ago.

p.s one of your greatest (and one of englands greatest) managers bob paisley is on record as saying he just didn't trust black players. that says it all.


Well I agree , its a shame there haven't been more but if the players aren't there now what can you do? I know what Howard Gayle went through but it was a different game then and it was a different world. Bob Paisley was old school and racism has only slowly started to subside over the years. Alot more people in that era were racist and you can't change what's happened in the past.

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Cor it's only the internet adn seems as though world war 3 has kicked off!

Fuck it - let the teams do the talking on the pitch.

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cara, sorry i don't buy your responses

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Post by EC3 »

Don't know why people are giving this carra fella the opportunity to post so much crap.

I've never had time for Liverpool, never trusted them and in my experience they would take the opportunity to try and bully smaller numbers.

Strangely enough was in Prague the other year when Arsenal were there and bumped into a load of Everton who were staying there for a game in Germany.

To be fair they seemed ok although was a bit of a shame when it kicked off at the end of the evening :?

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can't he try to explain the Liverpool point of view? Yes they do have some Muppets, no I do not think reacting to spitting tends to lead to fights (then again, I was born in 1988, maybe attitudes were different then), the fans involved in the mess deserve blame, those that rushed the gates at Athens deserve blame for that, as does whoever decided to host in inadequate stadiums. However I do think that with the attitudes that seem prevalent at the time, it would have happened at some point to some club, it was far from Liverpool fans only that tended to rush opposition fans. It is a stain on Liverpool but it is one that could be on any club's history.

Calling the entire Liverpool fan base murderers is not needed, some were not born, some were not there and not every single fan in the stadium was involved.

Carra, the yellow shirt thing was due to a thread in the redandwhitekop general forum were some fans had a go at Arsenal being insensitive for daring to celebrate a great night for us

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Magic Hat wrote: Carra, the yellow shirt thing was due to a thread in the redandwhitekop general forum were some fans had a go at Arsenal being insensitive for daring to celebrate a great night for us
The RAWK forum is full of idiots, JCL's and out of towners to be fair.

Look, okay you seem to hate us so fair enough but it never used to be like that. We've never had a problem with Arsenal fans. When you won the league in 98, you came to Anfield the next game and the banter was great. The 89 defeat hurt like fuck but we were never bitter about it. The whole of Anfield applauded you that night.

When we won (stole I admit) the FA Cup against you in 2001, your fans were brilliant outside and very magmanimous and the two fans, I felt always got on quite well. Now you all seem to have gone full circle on us. Rather than friendly banter at the games, its alot more obnoxious (murderers, your support is fucking shit, anfield library, HOOF constantly etc).

What's changed since 2001, to make you hate us? As far as I was aware, Arsenal Liverpool was the only game out of the top 4 teams, where the two fans don't hate each other. We hate Chelsea and United but don't hate Arsenal.
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Carra id like to thank your fans for welcoming me off the train in the 80s
with a nice brick or two.
NICE TOUCH :evil:.
BTW..scousers AINT that funny really

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[quote="Magic Hat"]can't he try to explain the Liverpool point of view? Yes they do have some Muppets,

yes he is quite right to come on here and answwer the questions poised

no I do not think reacting to spitting tends to lead to fights (then again, I was born in 1988, maybe attitudes were different then),

football voilence is one thing 39 deaths is another BIG DIFFERENCE

the fans involved in the mess deserve blame, those that rushed the gates at Athens deserve blame for that, as does whoever decided to host in inadequate stadiums.

the fisrt part i agree with the bit about inadequate stadiums is bollocks. yes a lot of grounds were very poor but if a mob decides to strom a part of a ground the consequences rest at the door of those that rushed forward.

However I do think that with the attitudes that seem prevalent at the time, it would have happened at some point to some club,

yea right :roll: :roll: :roll:


it was far from Liverpool fans only that tended to rush opposition fans. It is a stain on Liverpool but it is one that could be on any club's history.

again bollocks liverpool fc have a history of trying to get in for free. it's a culture that persist to this day. such as last seasons champions league game at the Grove. they are *word censored*

Calling the entire Liverpool fan base murderers is not needed, some were not born, some were not there and not every single fan in the stadium was involved.

no one called them murderers, we are saying they need to show.....

1. empathy to those that died as a direct result of their actions (including the deaths of their own fans)

2. remorse for what they did

3. that the scum that caused the mayhem will never storm any gates again

Carra, the yellow shirt thing was due to a thread in the redandwhitekop general forum were some fans had a go at Arsenal being insensitive for daring to celebrate a great night for us

May 26 IS OUR DAY and fuck any mickey that thinks different. i will be going away to that shit hole and for once a will buy and wear our away shirt. FUCK EM

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