LIVERPOOL GAME THREAD

[Chippy]

I've stayed out of this gooners v scousers stuff so far as I lived up there and had some great times. I went to a couple of games with scousers at Anfield, and even though we scored and won I was able to celebrate. At that time I would say they were the best supporters in the country. I am not joking.

However I have gone off the team steadily and it is now obvious that unless they cheat or have the ref in their pocket they are incapable of beating us.

Just realised that what I've just said is illogical but I do think it is part of the same thing. "We're hard done by, so even if we don't deserve to win, buy a ticket, start a fight it is somebody else's fault."

Bollocks, too much to drink. Can't express myself properly. Will return to this..

God help us will Gerrard ever stop diving?

[QuartzGooner]

Good game. Two fantastic goals. I'm very happy with the point. Adebayor sending off was fair. Went over the top of the ball twice dangerously. Got to go for that.

fuck off, neither was a foul and the cheating scouse c**t holding his face like he got a slap,
wanker and a cheat

Spot on Rebel.

As for Denilson, he was our hardest working and best player today, and Song did quite well too.

Would have loved to see Vela/Wilshere/Ramsey get a late chance to run on the wing.

Considering the fact you lost Eduardo to a similar tackle I was kind of shocked by the fans reaction. Adebayor knows that as-well thats why he didn't argue.

what tackle are you trying to compare with eddies, because if its either of ades then you really do need to get a grip

Ade's tackles were not reckless like the one that took out Eduardo.

The first was over the top but lacked force would have bruised the leg but nothing more, the second was not even a foul.

The out of order tackle was Keane on Clichy in the first half.

So what if Keane got the ball, if Clichy had not been upended and had got a boot stuck in the turf, the "scissor tackle" could have snapped Clichy's ligaments.

[g88ner]

Considering the fact you lost Eduardo to a similar tackle I was kind of shocked by the fans reaction. Adebayor knows that as-well thats why he didn't argue.

I get so disillusioned when I read comments like that because Bojde comes across as a fairly knowledgeable chap, and yet he thinks the Ade "challenge" was comparable to the one on Eddie... a leg breaker!

It beggers belief, to be honest.

Watch the Ade "challenge" again, and notice what he does. Yes, his leg is over the ball and his momentum is taking him into Arbeloa... but watch! as his leg goes over the ball, he twists his body round and leans into Arbeloa BEFORE his leading leg has even touched the ground...

There is almost ZERO force in his leg at the "potential" point of impact with Arbeloa, and ALL the force is in Ade's UPPER BODY, when he leans into Arbeloa.

So there was no chance of Ade snapping Arbeloa's leg in two like Eduardo.. and I'm amazed you see it that way.

The fact that no contact was even made is another matter

Anyway, you're welcome to your opinion Bojde, but I feel you're just trying to wind people up.

[StokeyGooner]

Ade went over the top on both yellow cards, and even if he was a tad unlucky, they were pretty awful tackles
- probably not a 2nd yellow, but I wasn't overly suprised.

I haven't seen either booking on the telly yet but that is what it looked like to me as well.

However the referee did lose the plot afterwards. And why Gerrard didn't get booked is a bit of a mystery to me. But I suppose he's English, and English players don't cheat do they. He must have had a spasm.

Perversely as has been said we were much better following the sending off and every Arsenal player lifted their game. It's just frustrating it took something like that for them to do so. Mind you Friday will be tough without Fabregas and Adebayor so maybe the same backs to the wall mentality will get us a result.

By the way is it just me, or was that one of the best atmosphere we have had at the new stadium?

Just seen the game again and there is absolutely no way Adebayor should have been sent off. Absoloute joke.
I'm delighted we give Webb such a hard ride in the 2nd half cos he deserved it.

The prick.

[g88ner]

StokeyGooner, from my post here, you can see what my stance is....

*I would add though, that in real time I can understand how the ref misinterpreted it as a foul. So, unlike many on here, I don't blame the ref as such, I'm just frustrated by his decision.

Considering the fact you lost Eduardo to a similar tackle I was kind of shocked by the fans reaction. Adebayor knows that as-well thats why he didn't argue.

I get so disillusioned when I read comments like that because Bojde comes across as a fairly knowledgeable chap, and yet he thinks the Ade "challenge" was comparable to the one on Eddie... a leg breaker!

It beggers belief, to be honest.

Watch the Ade "challenge" again, and notice what he does. Yes, his leg is over the ball and his momentum is taking him into Arbeloa... but watch! as his leg goes over the ball, he twists his body round and leans into Arbeloa BEFORE his leading leg has even touched the ground...

There is almost ZERO force in his leg at the "potential" point of impact with Arbeloa, and ALL the force is in Ade's UPPER BODY, when he leans into Arbeloa.

So there was no chance of Ade snapping Arbeloa's leg in two like Eduardo.. and I'm amazed you see it that way.

The fact that no contact was even made is another matter

Anyway, you're welcome to your opinion Bojde, but I feel you're just trying to wind people up.

[QuartzGooner]

StokeyGooner, from my post here, you can see what my stance is....

*I would add though, that in real time I can understand how the ref misinterpreted it as a foul. So, unlike many on here, I don't blame the ref as such, I'm just frustrated by his decision.

Considering the fact you lost Eduardo to a similar tackle I was kind of shocked by the fans reaction. Adebayor knows that as-well thats why he didn't argue.

I get so disillusioned when I read comments like that because Bojde comes across as a fairly knowledgeable chap, and yet he thinks the Ade "challenge" was comparable to the one on Eddie... a leg breaker!

It beggers belief, to be honest.

Watch the Ade "challenge" again, and notice what he does. Yes, his leg is over the ball and his momentum is taking him into Arbeloa... but watch! as his leg goes over the ball, he twists his body round and leans into Arbeloa BEFORE his leading leg has even touched the ground...

There is almost ZERO force in his leg at the "potential" point of impact with Arbeloa, and ALL the force is in Ade's UPPER BODY, when he leans into Arbeloa.

So there was no chance of Ade snapping Arbeloa's leg in two like Eduardo.. and I'm amazed you see it that way.

The fact that no contact was even made is another matter

Anyway, you're welcome to your opinion Bojde, but I feel you're just trying to wind people up.

I can also how the ref made his mistake, but it did not stop me jumping out my seat and screaming at him!

My 76 year old relative did the same!

I was sitting in a box today, so I ran in to watch the replays on the tv (they show the game live but with a time lag of about 10 seconds) and clearly saw it was not a foul.

I ran back out screaming, "It's a disgrace, a total disgrace" standing in my seat booing and shaking my head.

No idea what everyone else around me thought, but most of them seemed to boo too.

So much for the corporates being stiffs!

[g88ner]

I can also how the ref made his mistake, but it did not stop me jumping out my seat and screaming at him!

Football's a passionate game, and the ref was RIGHTLY given a hard time!

If I'm honest, my first instinct was that it was a foul and I was VERY worried Ade was going to be booked... and sadly, he was.

But, yeah.. replay's clearly show Ade should NOT have been sent off, even if Bojde SOMEHOW sees it as an Eduardo style leg breaker

I think refs have an impossible job, and for GAME CHANGING decisions like that, then surely technology should be used to their advantage and not just to CONDEMN them for their mistakes!

[QuartzGooner]

I can also how the ref made his mistake, but it did not stop me jumping out my seat and screaming at him!

Football's a passionate game, and the ref was RIGHTLY given a hard time!

If I'm honest, my first instinct was that it was a foul and I was VERY worried Ade was going to be booked... and sadly, he was.

But, yeah.. replay's clearly show Ade should NOT have been sent off, even if Bojde SOMEHOW sees it as an Eduardo style leg breaker

I think refs have an impossible job, and for GAME CHANGING decisions like that, then surely technology should be used to their advantage and not just to CONDEMN them for their mistakes!

I am all for replays for goal decisions and red cards.

Each manager should have three chances per game to question the ref.

[BOJDE LFC]

Considering the fact you lost Eduardo to a similar tackle I was kind of shocked by the fans reaction. Adebayor knows that as-well thats why he didn't argue.

I get so disillusioned when I read comments like that because Bojde comes across as a fairly knowledgeable chap, and yet he thinks the Ade "challenge" was comparable to the one on Eddie... a leg breaker!

It beggers belief, to be honest.

Watch the Ade "challenge" again, and notice what he does. Yes, his leg is over the ball and his momentum is taking him into Arbeloa... but watch! as his leg goes over the ball, he twists his body round and leans into Arbeloa BEFORE his leading leg has even touched the ground...

There is almost ZERO force in his leg at the "potential" point of impact with Arbeloa, and ALL the force is in Ade's UPPER BODY, when he leans into Arbeloa.

So there was no chance of Ade snapping Arbeloa's leg in two like Eduardo.. and I'm amazed you see it that way.

The fact that no contact was even made is another matter

Anyway, you're welcome to your opinion Bojde, but I feel you're just trying to wind people up.

Seen it again and fair enough it was no where near as bad as the Eduardo challenge, but maybe the ref saw it as dangerous play. Somehow I think this wasn't a great game for Arsenal as you needed to win to stay in the race for the title and the Fabregas injury is a big blow. Shall be interesting to see who Wenger buys in the transfer window, maybe even somebody over 20.

[g88ner]

Seen it again and fair enough it was no where near as bad as the Eduardo challenge, but maybe the ref saw it as dangerous play. Somehow I think this wasn't a great game for Arsenal as you needed to win to stay in the race for the title and the Fabregas injury is a big blow. Shall be interesting to see who Wenger buys in the transfer window, maybe even somebody over 20.

I hope so!

Our squad is really struggling, and if Cesc is out for 2-3 months then that's a huge blow

We NEED a central defender, holding midfielder, and ideally, a winger... but I'm not holding my breath.

As far as the result....

1-1 doesn't really help, but a defeat would have been a huge blow. The gap isn't too big, but it's fantasy land to expect this Arsenal team to suddenly turn the corner and sweep all before them. We lack too much to mount a credible title race... and many of us were saying that in August!

Villa are a concern, though. They're 3pts ahead of us and we play them at Villa Park on Boxing Day. Should be interesting.. and that really is a game we don't want to lose!

For Liverpool, 1-1 at Arsenal is a good result. You lot should be delighted, even if you didn't take advantage of the red card.

[olgitgooner]

When the ball was hoofed up for Keane's equaliser, was he not beyond the halfway line, and offside at the moment the ball was kicked.

Or am I mistaken?

[olgitgooner]

When the ball was hoofed up for Keane's equaliser, was he not beyond the halfway line, and offside at the moment the ball was kicked.

Or am I mistaken?

[Eboue-Why?]

Bodje LFC - If you read what I said, I wasn't suggesting you ram raided the turnstiles at Hillsborough you moron. We all know it was about overcrowding in one section caused mainly by police actions so the point I was making was that by trying to get ticketless fans into big games these days, you clearly haven't learnt lessons.
In Athens for instance you had thousands in the ground without tickets so defend those actions of your wonderfully innocent fans.
(Oh and then piss off onto your own website)

[stg]

Seen it again and fair enough it was no where near as bad as the Eduardo challenge, but maybe the ref saw it as dangerous play. Somehow I think this wasn't a great game for Arsenal as you needed to win to stay in the race for the title and the Fabregas injury is a big blow. Shall be interesting to see who Wenger buys in the transfer window, maybe even somebody over 20.

A point for both teams was not good but slightly better for Arsenal than L'poo. If you really want to win the PL then starting a game to draw 0-0 is not the way to go and then to be happy with a 1-1 after the other team have gone down to 10 men is not the way to win the PL, do you think Fergie would of played for a draw yesterday against Arsenal?

[SPUDMASHER]

Seen it again and fair enough it was no where near as bad as the Eduardo challenge, but maybe the ref saw it as dangerous play. Somehow I think this wasn't a great game for Arsenal as you needed to win to stay in the race for the title and the Fabregas injury is a big blow. Shall be interesting to see who Wenger buys in the transfer window, maybe even somebody over 20.

A point for both teams was not good but slightly better for Arsenal than L'poo. If you really want to win the PL then starting a game to draw 0-0 is not the way to go and then to be happy with a 1-1 after the other team have gone down to 10 men is not the way to win the PL, do you think Fergie would of played for a draw yesterday against Arsenal?

Fergie would have gone for the throat the very second we went down to ten men.
I've seen the scousers a few times this season and how they are on top is a mystery to me. They're really not that good at all. They must be having some serious luck this season.