That RAWK Q&A

Radford149 · Post by **Radford149** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:28 pm

Red Zeppelin wrote:
REBEL GOONER wrote:
Red Zeppelin wrote:Justice Taylor Report. read it.
i think no one blames the liverpool fans but you must see the bigger picture and realise that they were not 100% blameless either and why do you lot still try and get into grounds with no tickets, have you learnt nothing, and wasnt it the cl final when you charged the gates causing more shit as well as beating up your own fans and robbing there tickets
READ THE JUSTICE TAYLOR REPORT SOFT ARSE. And it seems you like to believe everything you believe in the media as fact, well done you.

still bottling the questions i see

Red Zeppelin · Post by **Red Zeppelin** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:29 pm

I couldn't tell you what happened in Athens, I wasn't there. it might well have happened, or it might be absolute bollocks, I'm not qualified to comment really.

digger · Post by **digger** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:39 pm

Red Zeppelin wrote:Why don't you come down to any pub in Anfield and repeat your remark iut the 96? We don't buy the Sun because it's a lying rag, and to be honest only thick as fuck Cockneys like yourselves read shite like that. "Tits out for the lads" and all that. As for the Rhys question, shouldn't you cockney biffs be the experts on child murder by gangs?

Thanks for the reasonable response.

I'm kidding.

Why violence? That won't make you "not murderers", why do you have to feel the need to defend the scum who support your club?

Why is the Sun a lying rag? Because it printed facts about Scousers pissing on and ransacking the dead, information given to them by the police? And I don't read the Sun, but it's no better nor worse than any other tabloid.

Child murder by gangs? Nothing I know about, a few people in Tottenham have killed a baby but that's not really relevant to the Arsenal now is it?

Red Zeppelin · Post by **Red Zeppelin** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:41 pm

digger wrote:
Red Zeppelin wrote:Why don't you come down to any pub in Anfield and repeat your remark iut the 96? We don't buy the Sun because it's a lying rag, and to be honest only thick as fuck Cockneys like yourselves read shite like that. "Tits out for the lads" and all that. As for the Rhys question, shouldn't you cockney biffs be the experts on child murder by gangs?
Thanks for the reasonable response.

I'm kidding.

Why violence? That won't make you "not murderers", why do you have to feel the need to defend the scum who support your club?

Why is the Sun a lying rag? Because it printed facts about Scousers pissing on and ransacking the dead, information given to them by the police? And I don't read the Sun, but it's no better nor worse than any other tabloid.

Child murder by gangs? Nothing I know about, a few people in Tottenham have killed a baby but that's not really relevant to the Arsenal now is it?

Facts eh? Clever arse you. READ. THE. JUSTICE. TAYLOR. REPORT.

digger · Post by **digger** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:43 pm

Was Mr Taylor at Hillsbrough?

Were the Old Bill?

End of the day mate, dress it up like you want, but there were more scousers in the leppings lane end than there were tickets sold. Why has that been so difficult for the people of Liverpool to accept and apologise for in the last 20 years? 20 years is a long time to be holding onto that sort of guilt....

Red Zeppelin · Post by **Red Zeppelin** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:46 pm

digger wrote:Was Mr Taylor at Hillsbrough?

Were the Old Bill?

End of the day mate, dress it up like you want, but there were more scousers in the leppings lane end than there were tickets sold. Why has that been so difficult for the people of Liverpool to accept and apologise for in the last 20 years? 20 years is a long time to be holding onto that sort of guilt....

Say it at Anfield, that's all I'm saying. If you *word censored* came out from behind the barriers and Police and said that shit to our faces on matchday you'd get the fucking shoeing you deserve.

digger · Post by **digger** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:47 pm

Why would we get a shoeing? Because we want to know....

THE TRUTH

??

Red Zeppelin · Post by **Red Zeppelin** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:49 pm

How very sad.

digger · Post by **digger** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:49 pm

Answer the question....

Red Zeppelin · Post by **Red Zeppelin** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:53 pm

Tell you what, since you think the deaths of 96 people is something you can use to score points over a football fan, why don't you give up a few minutes of your day to watch this if you wanna know THE TRUTH.

http://www.hfdinfo.com/

I'm quite aware that you won't and you'll just try to bait me further, but that's the truth on that webpage.

jamesone23 · Post by **jamesone23** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:56 pm

[quote="digger"]Was Mr Taylor at Hillsbrough?

Were the Old Bill?

End of the day mate, dress it up like you want, but there were more scousers in the leppings lane end than there were tickets sold. Why has that been so difficult for the people of Liverpool to accept and [i]apologise for[/i] in the last 20 years? 20 years is a long time to be holding onto that sort of guilt....[/quote]

How about you actually read a book on the disaster you seem to know so much about, you gibbering mess?

Your comments on this topic, and others, are disgusting and a total disgrace. I find it hard to believe that you can actually be as stupid as you let on, and aren't actually on a wind up.

Information about Hillsborough is readily available on the internet. I suggest you get a clue.

digger · Post by **digger** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:57 pm

I'm not trying to score points, I just want to know two things:

1: Will the people from Liverpool who were at Hillsbrough without tickets ever apologise for their actions

2: If not, do Liverpool fans genuinely think the people who turned up late, with no tickets, then rushed the gates are not responsible?

I'm not trying to bait anyone, and I genuinely feel sorrow for an event which killed over 100 people (indirectly) and changed world football forever....

Red Zeppelin · Post by **Red Zeppelin** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:00 pm

yeah we believe you. Watch the video I posted if you want to know the truth. You shouldn't spout bollocks about things you know so very very little about.

jamesone23 · Post by **jamesone23** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:00 pm

[quote="digger"]I'm not trying to score points, I just want to know two things:

1: Will the people from Liverpool who were at Hillsbrough without tickets ever apologise for their actions

2: If not, do Liverpool fans genuinely think the people who turned up late, with no tickets, then rushed the gates are not responsible?

I'm not trying to bait anyone, and I genuinely feel sorrow for an event which killed over 100 people (indirectly) and changed world football forever....[/quote]
One click on the internet should give you your information: "The possibility of fans attempting to gain entry without tickets or with forgeries contributing to the disaster was also suggested. South Yorkshire police also suggested that the late arrival of fans amounted to a conspiracy in order to gain entry without tickets. However, analysis of the electronic monitoring system, Health and Safety Executive Analysis and eye witness accounts showed that there was not an excessively large number of ticketless fans. The report dismissed the conspiracy theory."

This is taken from the official report into the disaster.

How come you seem to know so much about it?

digger · Post by **digger** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:07 pm

Ok read the article. IF you don't mind me saying, it's written with a pro-fan bias compared with other articles and TV programmes I've seen, but it's well written.

How comes I know so much about it? Reading other articles, similar to this one.

Please answer my question - do liverpool fans genuinely think they were completely blameless? OR do you accept that some of the actions of some Liverpool fans made the tragedy worse than it had to be?