Deadline day Arshavin saga

Radford149 · Post by **Radford149** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:38 pm

augie wrote:Until the day I die I will always argue that reyes could and would of become a star for us but for one reason......henry The man couldnt stand the thought of anybody else stealing his limelight and made his life such hell that he eventually fcuked off back to spain. I am not ignoring the fact that he also had personal issues but imo they could have been overcome with the support of a close knit squad

i agree

Fuse · Post by **Fuse** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:41 pm

dvbrisgooner1 wrote:
augie wrote:Until the day I die I will always argue that reyes could and would of become a star

I'm inclined to agree to a certain extent. But I think Reyes refused to/was unable to adapt due to his lack of intellect, just as much as Henry didn't like him. The guy still didn't speak a word of English when he left which, to me, is indicative of a guy who didn't want to be in England full-stop.

Last I checked, he isn't excelling in he Spanish league, is he? No, don't think it would changed anything if Heanry was "nice" to him...

Post by **Belfast Boy** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:41 pm

augie wrote:Until the day I die I will always argue that reyes could and would of become a star for us but for one reason......henry The man couldnt stand the thought of anybody else stealing his limelight and made his life such hell that he eventually fcuked off back to spain. I am not ignoring the fact that he also had personal issues but imo they could have been overcome with the support of a close knit squad

What about the rest of the clubs he's been at since Augie he's hardly set the world on fire has he??? and I've seen interviews with him and he came across not as a man but as a little gypsy boy which I suppose is hardly surprising seeing as that's what he is, but seriously he honestly did come across as a mummy's boy

augie · Post by **augie** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:42 pm

dvbrisgooner1 wrote:
augie wrote:Until the day I die I will always argue that reyes could and would of become a star for us but for one reason......henry The man couldnt stand the thought of anybody else stealing his limelight and made his life such hell that he eventually fcuked off back to spain. I am not ignoring the fact that he also had personal issues but imo they could have been overcome with the support of a close knit squad

I'm inclined to agree to a certain extent. But I think Reyes refused to/was unable to adapt due to his lack of intellect, just as much as Henry didn't like him. The guy still didn't speak a word of English when he left which, to me, is indicative of a guy who didn't want to be in England full-stop.

I agree to a point about the intelligence thing but how much spanish did beckham have after his few years in spain ? I aint being funny but the guy struggles with english at times, is far from a leading contender for mastermind and yet settled well and contributed positively to madrid and their football. Fcuk knows how he will get on learning italian

dvbrisgooner1 · Post by **dvbrisgooner1** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:43 pm

Fuse wrote:
dvbrisgooner1 wrote:
augie wrote:Until the day I die I will always argue that reyes could and would of become a star

I'm inclined to agree to a certain extent. But I think Reyes refused to/was unable to adapt due to his lack of intellect, just as much as Henry didn't like him. The guy still didn't speak a word of English when he left which, to me, is indicative of a guy who didn't want to be in England full-stop.
Last I checked, he isn't excelling in he Spanish league, is he? No, don't think it would changed anything if Heanry was "nice" to him...

That's because he plays for Benfica.

DERRY GOONER · Post by **DERRY GOONER** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:44 pm

agree with u augie 2 a certian extent. reyes and henry def did not c eye 2 eye. reyes on his day, was as skillful as henry, if not more so, but he didnt have the consistancy. another thing that was missing was, during the winter months, reyes was just a shadow, that didnt want 2 knoe. he was a fair weather player, well considering where he came from u can understand that.

Fuse · Post by **Fuse** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:46 pm

dvbrisgooner1 wrote: That's because he plays for Benfica.

I did say "Last I checked" and he was still in La Liga...

But seriously, who the hell did he end up at Benfica??? and he hasn't delivered since the early promise he had shown...

dvbrisgooner1 · Post by **dvbrisgooner1** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:47 pm

Given that Wenger told Sky there would be a statement tonight, would it not hurt to let us know exactly what is going on and whether or not they are confident of the deal going through.

I largely agree with the Club staying silent of transfers, but in the circumstances a little communication wouldn't go amiss.

augie · Post by **augie** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:48 pm

Belfast Boy wrote:
augie wrote:Until the day I die I will always argue that reyes could and would of become a star for us but for one reason......henry The man couldnt stand the thought of anybody else stealing his limelight and made his life such hell that he eventually fcuked off back to spain. I am not ignoring the fact that he also had personal issues but imo they could have been overcome with the support of a close knit squad
What about the rest of the clubs he's been at since Augie he's hardly set the world on fire has he??? and I've seen interviews with him and he came across not as a man but as a little gypsy boy which I suppose is hardly surprising seeing as that's what he is, but seriously he honestly did come across as a mummy's boy

History is littered with stories of players who have failed to bounce back after an unhappy spell in a club and it is hard to explain why but I do not believe that it is fair to make a sweeping assumption that players in these cases didnt have the qualities to become top players though. In reyes case he went to athletico madrid who are far from a happy ship and have been itching to sack their manager for the last 18 months or so

Nice_Guy · Post by **Nice_Guy** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:00 pm

GadgetMan wrote:Ok...there's nothing more that we can do now...but sit and wait...

can i suggest that you all go and watch this...I just have with 'Life of Riley' by The Lightning Seeds playing at full blast...

if he signs and I just know he will...he will be just awesome...he'll give us back the pace we've been missing...

go watch...and enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRxxurh0xg

Jesus some of that is amazing.

Scores a lot of goals from outside the box though like Nasri did. Needs to learn to pass when a shot is on

Nice_Guy · Post by **Nice_Guy** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:02 pm

augie wrote:
Belfast Boy wrote:
augie wrote:Until the day I die I will always argue that reyes could and would of become a star for us but for one reason......henry The man couldnt stand the thought of anybody else stealing his limelight and made his life such hell that he eventually fcuked off back to spain. I am not ignoring the fact that he also had personal issues but imo they could have been overcome with the support of a close knit squad
What about the rest of the clubs he's been at since Augie he's hardly set the world on fire has he??? and I've seen interviews with him and he came across not as a man but as a little gypsy boy which I suppose is hardly surprising seeing as that's what he is, but seriously he honestly did come across as a mummy's boy

History is littered with stories of players who have failed to bounce back after an unhappy spell in a club and it is hard to explain why but I do not believe that it is fair to make a sweeping assumption that players in these cases didnt have the qualities to become top players though. In reyes case he went to athletico madrid who are far from a happy ship and have been itching to sack their manager for the last 18 months or so

Augie I couldnt agree more. Will always maintain that Reyes had the necessary technical ability to become the best player in the world.

When Ronaldo got kicked at 20/21 years old he got up & beat the man the next time. Unfortunately Reyes went missing after Nevilles GBH on him at OT in 04/05. Real shame

Captain Fabregas · Post by **Captain Fabregas** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:28 pm

ANDREI ARSHAVIN finally completed his Â£15million move to Arsenal last night after hiring his own plane to beat the British winter.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... R=Football

Post by **Belfast Boy** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:52 pm

Nice_Guy wrote:Augie I couldnt agree more. Will always maintain that Reyes had the necessary technical ability to become the best player in the world.

When Ronaldo got kicked at 20/21 years old he got up & beat the man the next time. Unfortunately Reyes went missing after Nevilles GBH on him at OT in 04/05. Real shame

Exactly Nice Guy, nobody's doubting his technical ability but as most players by and large have the same physical attributes it's pretty obvious that sport is 90% between the ears, what makes people winners is mental strength!

Rocky Fan · Post by **Rocky Fan** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:02 am

If Reyes had such talent why did he fail after he left us ?
No he wasnt in the Pires or Overmars bracket, another physically weak player who didnt want it enough

xDAVEYx · Post by **xDAVEYx** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:03 am

Nice_Guy wrote:
GadgetMan wrote:Ok...there's nothing more that we can do now...but sit and wait...

can i suggest that you all go and watch this...I just have with 'Life of Riley' by The Lightning Seeds playing at full blast...

if he signs and I just know he will...he will be just awesome...he'll give us back the pace we've been missing...

go watch...and enjoy...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIRxxurh0xg
Jesus some of that is amazing.

Scores a lot of goals from outside the box though like Nasri did. Needs to learn to pass when a shot is on

watch 3:22 and compare that to pires

i love how awesome youtube can make someone look