Flags for the Cardiff match

alanalansunderland · Post by **alanalansunderland** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:39 am

As has been mentioned in a previous thread the sight of so many national flags being waived at the Grove last night must have made many peoples blood boil with regard to the supposed 'ban' at our games.

No point in going into the history of it all, apart from the fact that many people have constantly campaigned for a change in the rule and have always been fobbed off with comments like 'just be patient' etc.

Well I think the time for patience is over.

Whatever your flag is bring it on Monday night, the Cardiff boys will no doubt have their dragon on display we need to show that not only is it 'OUR CLUB' but its 'OUR FLAG' as well.

Lets not just talk about it lets do it, if it means you have to sneak them in so be it.

If we really want to push this issue with the club then now is the time to stand up and be counted.

Mikegooner87i · Post by **Mikegooner87i** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:41 am

The nazi stewadrs will be after you mate...

12thGooner · Post by **12thGooner** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:42 am

fcuk the stewards.

Mikegooner87i · Post by **Mikegooner87i** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:44 am

12thGooner wrote:fcuk the stewards.

Fuck em, but it dont mean they wont be the *word censored* they are every fucking home game!

Theres one idiot at block 11 who i cant fucking stand! Couple of people nearly walloped the *word censored*!

12thGooner · Post by **12thGooner** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:46 am

Mikegooner87i wrote:
12thGooner wrote:fcuk the stewards.
Fuck em, but it dont mean they wont be the c**ts they are every fucking home game!

Theres one idiot at block 11 who i cant fucking stand! Couple of people nearly walloped the c**t!

Can't disagree.

Post by **REB** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:47 am

good idea, if there was a thousand gooner flags then it might force the clubs hand and make the grove look more like a football ground

im not going but for those that are then do your best for the sake and future of reclaiming the club and making it the fans club once more

alanalansunderland · Post by **alanalansunderland** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:48 am

Mikegooner87i wrote:The nazi stewadrs will be after you mate...

Night game, everyone turns up late (even later than normal) stewards will not have time to search all. There are always ways and means!

12th Gooner is right 'fcuk em' lets get it done.

alanalansunderland · Post by **alanalansunderland** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 10:50 am

Can I make a plea that we all spread the word on this as far as possible.

Other message boards personal contacts etc etc.

Nice_Guy · Post by **Nice_Guy** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:16 am

I have to be honest, & I know you will all vilify me for this, but whats all the fuss with flags at the ground?

Why do you feel you have to bring your countries flag to a football ground? Its not the Olympics & why do you feel you have to show where you are from? Surely if anything this would worsen the image that we are full of tourists for home games?!

Im not anti-flags but why all the fuss? If your that bothered about telling everyone where you are from why do you all paint your faces or wear a badge or something?

PS Are there enough question marks in this post? Do I need more?

Robsy · Post by **Robsy** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:28 pm

Nice_Guy wrote:I have to be honest, & I know you will all vilify me for this, but whats all the fuss with flags at the ground?

Why do you feel you have to bring your countries flag to a football ground? Its not the Olympics & why do you feel you have to show where you are from? Surely if anything this would worsen the image that we are full of tourists for home games?!

Im not anti-flags but why all the fuss? If your that bothered about telling everyone where you are from why do you all paint your faces or wear a badge or something?

PS Are there enough question marks in this post? Do I need more?

WTF!

Arsenal are an English team, playing in the English Premiership.

My flag, which I've only been able to hang at away matches (when I've not forgotten it!!), is the George Cross with a massive Arsanel Crest in the middle.

To me it says Arsenal are at the heart of English football.

When I use to go to England games abroad (loadsa times) you would always see various George Cross flags with teams names across them. It looked impressive and was stating where those clubs come from.

Wearing face paint is for f*cking kids! Wearing a bloody badge is hardly shouting from the rooftops is it?!

What the f*ck do you mean when you say "...Surely if anything this would worsen the image that we are full of tourists for home games..." - how the hell would displaying a national flag do this?? Your being plain stupid.

Having said all of this...and this will piss people off on here...I think we should only be permitted to hang the GB national flag or the English national flag. The reason being, if we allow all national flags we'll end up with the same situation as before, somebody taking a flag that offends another nationality (which to be honest is pathetic); but the one thing no one can deny is that Arsenal are an English club, playing in the English premier league, and therefore no one in their right mind can take offense at the flag(s) being used.

It isn't a perfect solution and in an ideal world Arsenal fans wouldn't mix international politics with their support of the club. But they have.

Post by **SPUDMASHER** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:37 pm

I know that the following is easy for me to say considering I won't be there personally but I think there might be a plan here.

If nothing else, this will bring the issue to a head. The more people that bring a flag the better. They cannot eject everyone that does so.

Can I also suggest that if you take a flag and are ejected from the ground as a result that you make your way to the front main entrance. If everyone that is ejected meets there and makes one hell of a fuss then it will have to be addressed once and for all.

Please be aware, if you are ejected for this they MUST return your flag to you. Once they do then display it at the front entrance.

Lethal · Post by **Lethal** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:40 pm

please get this going people

im sick of this fucking boring souless bowl

Lethal · Post by **Lethal** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:45 pm

i just been on the official

There is a giant flag coming,hopefully in time for Roma - unfortunately the original failed its fire test so it had to be remade.

just incredible

is this the stupid nations of arsenal flag ? with all the stupid nations on it

Robsy · Post by **Robsy** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 1:59 pm

SPUDMASHER wrote:Can I also suggest that if you take a flag and are ejected from the ground as a result that you make your way to the front main entrance. If everyone that is ejected meets there and makes one hell of a fuss then it will have to be addressed once and for all.

Please be aware, if you are ejected for this they MUST return your flag to you. Once they do then display it at the front entrance.

I had a chat with a steward at the start of the season, he said they wouldn't eject anyone, they'll just take the flag down and confiscate it for the duration of the match. Afterwards they'd give it back.

He seemed a reasonable fella, so I believe what he said, I just wonder if all the stewards would act this way, or if some would try and create a situation.

Post by **SPUDMASHER** » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:02 pm

I'm not sure they can even confiscate it. Okay, I know it's semantics but they'd not get mine off me without a row.

It is high time that the club were reminded that their fans own that club, not them. Without us, they are nothing.