Arshavin - first impressions.

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xDAVEYx wrote:my first impression: he's fucking TINY!!

he NEVER looked that small in the euros i swear!
:lol: :lol:

ditto!

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donaldo wrote:I always thought Ashavin could play the Bergkamp role just behind the main striker.But that striker would have to be a top class finisher.Is that RVP? not sure it definately isnt Greedy.I would love to see him play behind a striker like David Villa.Ashavin would be wasted out wide in my opinion
Hope next season's starting line up sees Arshavin play Bergkamp role behind clinical finishing of Eduardo.

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QuartzGooner wrote:
donaldo wrote:I always thought Ashavin could play the Bergkamp role just behind the main striker.But that striker would have to be a top class finisher.Is that RVP? not sure it definately isnt Greedy.I would love to see him play behind a striker like David Villa.Ashavin would be wasted out wide in my opinion
Hope next season's starting line up sees Arshavin play Bergkamp role behind clinical finishing of Eduardo.
Where does that put Van Persie then? Unless we switch to 4-3-3, it would mean sticking him on the wing (wasting him IMO)

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donaldo wrote:I always thought Ashavin could play the Bergkamp role just behind the main striker.But that striker would have to be a top class finisher.Is that RVP? not sure it definately isnt Greedy.I would love to see him play behind a striker like David Villa.Ashavin would be wasted out wide in my opinion
Agreed. He looks like he actually wants the ball too, unlike Dumb and Dumber in the middle...

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Thought for 30mins he showed some real quality and even apart from the two great shots he had early I liked his eagerness to actually attack the opposition when he got the ball as opposed to going sidewards like some :roll: I dont think playing the DB roll can work with our current squad cos I think that the player he plays off must have pace and while I know that the greedycunt has pace he hasnt the intelligence to stay fcuking onside :banghead:

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I was impressed with what I saw. The first shot he had was only unsuccessful because he hesitated early on. Whether he couldn't believe that chance that had appeared to him or whether he was aprehensive given it was within 5 minutes of his debut, I don't know. In a couple of months I think he would have the confidence to go for it 100% whereas on Saturday it was only about 90%.
All in all I thought it was a good debut and he looks a good prospect. I am salivating at the thought of him playing with Fabregas, RVP, Rosicky, Walcott and Eduardo. What his best role would be in that set up though, I'm not sure yet!

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Intresting post from http://arsenalfcblog.com/arsenal-will-b ... -of-april/

"Before I get labeled as a hopeless optimist and someone who doesn’t want to face the very real possibility of Arsenal finishing fifth, let me just say that Saturday’s game against Sunderland frustrated me immensely. It was another game without a goal, another missed opportunity and another painful exhibition of what we lack in the centre of the park.

But it was by no means a hopeless performance.

Arsene Wenger’s decision to start Andrey Arshavin surprised many people but the manager was rewarded with an individual performance full of promise. He was unlucky to not get a goal too, shooting agonisingly wide as early as the fourth minute and forcing the Sunderland goalkeeper’s best save of the game on the half-hour. He also set Nicklas Bendtner up with a lovely cross just before half-time before understandably fading out of the game as his fitness deteriorated, replaced by Carlos Vela.

Aside from the opening half-hour, when Sunderland forced Manuel Almunia into a couple of saves and looked quite decent on the break, we controlled the game and absolutely dominated possession. Absolutely. The fact that the Sunderland players were playing keep-ball in the corner with the scores at 0-0 with over five minutes to go indicated just how much they were overrun.

The problem was, as it often has been this season, the centre of midfield. But anyone who expects the performances of Alex Song and Denilson to be berated on this blog should look elsewhere. In contrast, I thought the pair did the job that they were set out to do admirably.

Creativity is not the pair’s strong point but in the absence of Cesc Fabregas all we can realistically ask is that they win the battle in the centre of the park. They did so comfortably and should be praised for it. By half-time they had made the centre of the park their own, such to the extent that one of the pair could have been substituted soon after for a more incisive, attacking player. That the manager waited until the 78th minute to bring off Song for Emmanuel Eboue and shuffle Samir Nasri into the middle was criminal. He could and should have done that as early as the 50th minute. His failure to do so cost the team badly as one scuffed shot by Vela was all Arsenal had to show for their efforts until Song was taken off.

Looking back on the game as a whole, I’m not overly upset with the performance. It was disappointing, yes, and extremely frustrating, but the signs are good in my opinion. We made plenty of chances in the first half - van Persie’s chipped shot, Bendtner’s header and the two Arshavin shots immediately jump to mind - and if any of those efforts had gone in it would have been a cakewalk. But once again we were made to pay for not scoring early as Sunderland effectively shut up shop.

Once we break our 0-0 rut, which is nothing more than an excruciating novelty in my eyes, we will be fine. Our defence looks strong and so does our goalkeeper. Van Persie again looked sharp, Bendtner is improving while Arshavin is more than capable of playing as well as he did against Sunderland in future games. Eduardo is back and Theo Walcott is on his way. We will start to score - it’s not a hope but a formality.

Arsenal’s next six Premier League games are three home contests against Fulham, Blackburn and Manchester City and three away trips to West Brom, Newcastle and Wigan. Aston Villa, on the other hand, host Stoke, Tottenham and FA Cup conquerors Everton and have to travel to Manchester twice and play Liverpool at Anfield. They will drop points. We’re likely to drop some too, but some quick maths indicate to me that we’ll be at least level with Villa by the second week of April. You read it here first.

And that’s all I want to say, really. I admit that another 0-0 draw is hardly the most satisfying result in the world, but aside from the continued frustration of the failure to score it was not a disaster. The defence looked solid, Song and Denilson did their job and if the manager had been just a little more proactive we would have won the game. He wasn’t and we didn’t, and it’s as simple as that.

Anyway, Roma is up next in what should be an excellent game. Keep smiling if you can."

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midget

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One word quality. Bit suprised about just how unfit he was but he was comfortable with the ball and confident shooting with both feet. Personally i think he is a replacement for Cesc not to play alongside him. Wenger said the same sort of things when Overmars came in about the Merse and when Pires came in too.

Liked the fact that Arshavin wasnt slow in having a word with some of his less able team mates.

And he must be shocked to playing with people like Bendtner,Eboue & Song at a supposed top European club.

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Bergkamp-Genius wrote:I think he could play both wide left and wide right and do a very good job in either position, but as has been said he's going to be more of a handful playing from the middle with the ability to roam to the left and the right when he wants. The question is how do we accommodate that.

-----------------------Almunia---------------------
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-------Sagna-----Gallas--Djourou-----Clichy----
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-------------------New quality DCM---------------
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-----------------Cesc-------Arshavin-------------
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----------Theo-------------------------Rvp--------
-----------------------Eduardo---------------------

OR

---------------------Almunia------------------------
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--------Sagna-----Gallas---Djourou-----Clichy---
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---------Theo------Cesc-------DCM------Nasri----
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-----------------------Arshavin----------------------
--------------------------Rvp-------------------------


UMMMMM galas above kolo?? no no no

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He was class, and when hes played a few more games and learnt from the likes of Eboue, Song and Denilson he will be untouchable!

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digger wrote:
QuartzGooner wrote:
donaldo wrote:I always thought Ashavin could play the Bergkamp role just behind the main striker.But that striker would have to be a top class finisher.Is that RVP? not sure it definately isnt Greedy.I would love to see him play behind a striker like David Villa.Ashavin would be wasted out wide in my opinion
Hope next season's starting line up sees Arshavin play Bergkamp role behind clinical finishing of Eduardo.
Where does that put Van Persie then? Unless we switch to 4-3-3, it would mean sticking him on the wing (wasting him IMO)
It would leave RvP on the bench.
As much as I am not keen on RvP, I would never deny that he would be a strong player to have on the bench.

I would go for Eduardo over RvP anytime up front, especially as he has more pace for Arshavin to play through balls which Eduardo can then run on to.

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Post by o2ba_gooner »

I thought he had a pretty impressive debut in the circumstances. I liked the way he shook off a 'stinger' he picked up and got a second and third wind after looking f@cked 30 minutes in or so.

Once he settles and gets his fitness back I think he'll makes us very glad we bought him from Zenit - the guy is a class act.

He's defintely impressed his new teammates in the limited time he's been with us. They all seem to be lining up to sing his praises, RvP, Nasri, Clichy and Toure have all gone into print lauding him.

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Arshavin - first impressions?




"Why have we got two mascots?"

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Mr Dicko wrote:Arshavin - first impressions?




"Why have we got two mascots?"
that was my dad's too :lol:

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