The Whole world Needs A Leader Like This...

As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
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RaM
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Post by RaM »

Knew this wasn't true as soon as I saw it. There would have been plenty of fuss about it here. Mainly from minority groups who would want Kevin Rudd removed from office. And then by next week he probably would be. :roll:

No, biggest Rudd scandal in the news has been his use of the word "shitstorm" in parliament. :lol:

But the hoax speech is exactly right. Speaks the mind of a great deal of Australians.

And pixie, the Aboriginal argument isn't relevant at all.

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Post by Yankee_Gooner_Dandee »

Fake or not I can't agree with all of that. I agree about the language. America probably has a larger problem than most with immigrants not knowing the language so I can relate. Fucking Mexicans :wink:

But about the religion I have to disagree. In a country built on having freedoms (like Austrailia, I think?) you should not have a national religion where "in God we trust" or whatever other fucking Christian slogans or images are plastered all over government buildings, or in schools. Unless your country is classified as a Christian nation. Then fine do whatever you want. America, for all its bad qualities, the one thing I think is crucial is freedom of religion (or no religion) and seperation of church and state. Although the cookey hillbilly southern state Evangelical freaks try and get away with it.

If you ever visit this country, please, stay away from Mississippi, Alabama, Lousiana, West Virginia, Virginia, Missouri, and Kansas. They give this country a bad image. Kind of like Wales :lol:

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Post by Exiled-Gooner »

I agree with every word of it whether it's a hoax or not!.I'm sick of our government pandering to minorities so not upset a stupid liberal group with a few thousand supporters and so ignoring the majority.If it wasn't a hoax i wish we had a leader with balls like Mr Rudd as it's time for straight talking as he is only saying what everyone is thinking and the only disturbing thing is that it's been said. :twisted:

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Post by Captain Fabregas »

How about this guy:
[quote]Brits 'live just like animals'

HATE preacher Anjem Choudary yesterday said he wants Sharia law in Britain to stop Britons “living like animalsâ€

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olgitgooner wrote:Hoax, or not, this piece says what lots of people are thinking.

Respect the laws and traditions of the country you live in.

It's not too much to ask.
Absolutely. If I went to pakistan, went out on the piss on a friday night after work, and tubbed a slut in a bar, visited a strip club on a Saturday night and did a few lines of charlie, then went to a Church on Sunday and confessed my sins, I'd be stoned to death in a week. I'd also have had a blinding weekend.

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All smoke and mirrors. We're pushed so hard to believe the muslim terrorist threat or the muslim taxpayer bandwagon that we allow the billions to bail out the banks to keep the rich mans money safe.

There is a minimal terrorist threat in the UK, and what there is has been fuelled to a large extent by an aggressive and legally dubious foreign policy.

We're constantly told to see a threat from minority, perceived inferior groups. While we keep out attention on them, the vast majority of the country's wealth can be enjoyed by the morally corrupt without close scrutiny:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/artic ... _page_id=2

This greed inflicted global recession and the abhorrent way money lenders have acted has affected us much more personally than any benefit cheat or suspected terrorist. Where is the anger that should be vented there? Where's the posts? The 700k reward for Goodwin's efforts in bringing down the banking system is worth 200 people claiming £70 per week. Who is the cheat?

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I am an immigrant here from Zim & I TOTALLY AGREE. I've been on visits to Dubai, UAE, SAUDI etc where they've made it clear that I got to play the game by THEIR rules or be punished & if not so, ship out asap. I've never enjoyed the luxury to jeer their forces or make subversive statements to the regime. I don't wanna seem like I'm promoting religious intolerence, but fuck it, Muslims are a bunch of wankers out to change religious opinion & dominate religious views. No foreigner should be allowed to dictate their own individual needs in a host country like these Muslims are seeking to. If they are not happy here, its gotta be made clear that they can fuck off to Muslim countries I mentioned above & there they'll have Sharia Law, hand chopping, beheardings and stoning of people.

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I have never felt threatened by an encroach of Sharia in the UK.

I do resent Islamic, or other, terrorism here though, and it directly affects me as a frequent user of London Transport and Synagogues.

All immigrants should learn the language of the host country, that is just common sense.

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Post by Martin Hayes »

I'm sorry to say this, but some of this is starting to read like the Daily Mail.

The rights of UK dwellers have hardly been infringed by 'the immigrants'... the vast majority of those who come here have fled from appalling conditions, AND ARE CHILDREN. I know this because I have spent over a deacde working with them.

Besides...we are all immigrants, or descendents of immigrants.

In this day and age, living in multi-cultural London, with a multi-cultural support, I would not have expected to find this on an Arsenal website.

Drop the reactionary, 'Thompson group' rhetoric, and back to The Arsenal. please...

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Martin Hayes wrote:I'm sorry to say this, but some of this is starting to read like the Daily Mail.
Well said.

I always thought the Daily Mail spoke for a sort of imaginary "Middle England" but it's sentiment appears to be live and well on the Online Gooner!

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Cockerill's chin wrote:All smoke and mirrors. We're pushed so hard to believe the muslim terrorist threat or the muslim taxpayer bandwagon that we allow the billions to bail out the banks to keep the rich mans money safe.

There is a minimal terrorist threat in the UK, and what there is has been fuelled to a large extent by an aggressive and legally dubious foreign policy.

We're constantly told to see a threat from minority, perceived inferior groups. While we keep out attention on them, the vast majority of the country's wealth can be enjoyed by the morally corrupt without close scrutiny:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/news/artic ... _page_id=2

This greed inflicted global recession and the abhorrent way money lenders have acted has affected us much more personally than any benefit cheat or suspected terrorist. Where is the anger that should be vented there? Where's the posts? The 700k reward for Goodwin's efforts in bringing down the banking system is worth 200 people claiming £70 per week. Who is the cheat?
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Post by DB10GOONER »

I have to say I agree with elements of that hoax email. If you are going to go and live in another country you should respect the local customs, traditions and law. You should learn the language.

I'm a multiculturist. I love experiencing new and diferent ways of life. But I believe it is up to you as a visitor or immigrant to fit in and adapt to the host countries way of life, not the other way round.

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Zimgooner wrote:Muslims are a bunch of wankers
Go to Zimbabwe, you uncivilised animal.

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Post by Sir Denis »

Martin Hayes wrote:
In this day and age, living in multi-cultural London, with a multi-cultural support, I would not have expected to find this on an Arsenal website.
Hear, hear! What's even more ironic, is that in non-British speaking countries, expat Brits are probably the least likely to learn the local language and "fit in". Take Spain for example, can you imagine the uproar if some estimated 250,000+ Brits living it up in sunny Spain should be forced to learn Spanish? What would the Sun / Mail / Star make of that? Cor blimey, it's just not fukcing on is it? Fuking nerve of it :lol:

I actually feel a bit stupid for underestimating the amount of bigoted sentiment that is floating around, this kind of polarising hoax rhetoric tries (and clearly succeeds) to stir up. However, everyone's entitled to their opinions, so if you really are an Alf Garnett throwback and that makes you happy, go ahead, become a full blown bigot and bore the life out of everyone

Scratch a bigot, and you will find a coward lurking therein. It's just fear, and you're taking the bait.

Go the Gooners! (25 immigrants out of 28 in 1st team) 8)

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