Is it time?

LeftfootlegendGooner · Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:16 pm

digger wrote:Hmmm.... surprised by this, RVP has been one of our better players this season. He's gone off the boil in the last month or two admittedly, but what player hasn't had a bad spell?

This is (by far) his most productive season for avoiding injury - he's played 40 times! For reasons of comparison, Fabregas has played 27, Nasri 39, Bendtner 44 (surprisingly high!).... and Denilson, who unfortunately never seems to miss a game, has only played 6 times more than Van Persie.

40 games is completely normal! He's also scored 17 goals, as a second striker. He's currently our top goalscorer btw.

As for him being injury prone, he played 41 & 38 games in his first two seasons, then had two years with serious injury problems (31 & 23 games), but he's been pretty much fine all season.

Keep him, sack the moaning c**ts we have as supporters

Agree totally, the guy has saved us time and again with goals, like the last minute one against everton and is as cool as cucumber from the penalty spot, his assists are also very good.
His first touch puts both adybarndoor and bendtner to shame, hs link up play is great, his corners and free kicks are of the highest order, if we had decent players in the air we would bag absolute hordes of goals from these free kicks.
IMO our player of the season.

Post by **I Hate Hleb** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:23 pm

Disagree about the supposed 'quality' of RVP's corners and especially free-kicks - which are one dimensional.

(Basically, he puts his foot through it)

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Speaking of which, it really surprises me that he seems to be the only one allowed to take a free-kick anywhere near the box, when we have others like Andrey, Sami and even Cesc that could occasionally try something different.

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:25 pm

I Hate Hleb wrote:Disagree about the supposed 'quality' of RVP's corners and especially free-kicks - which are one dimensional. (Basically, he puts his foot through it) .

Speaking of which, it really surprises me that he seems to be the only one allowed to take a free-kick anywhere near the box, when we have others like Andrey, Sami and even Cesc that could occasionally try something different.

The quality of our corners whether rvp takes them or not are always dreadful.

Post by **I Hate Hleb** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:27 pm

mcdowell42 wrote:
I Hate Hleb wrote:Disagree about the supposed 'quality' of RVP's corners and especially free-kicks - which are one dimensional. (Basically, he puts his foot through it) .

Speaking of which, it really surprises me that he seems to be the only one allowed to take a free-kick anywhere near the box, when we have others like Andrey, Sami and even Cesc that could occasionally try something different.

The quality of our corners whether rvp takes them or not are always dreadful.

Sad but true.

goonersid · Post by **goonersid** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:30 pm

To be honest rvp is a bit of a conundrum, he can be a hero like leftfoot just said, or sometimes anonymous, which is my view, on the other hand is he perhaps a luxury player, which this current team can't accomodate.
I personally am not too bothered by his current injury, simply because he is off form and it might force aw into giving eddie a start, because he has shown he can put the ball in tha bag even when he is not 100%

LeftfootlegendGooner · Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:04 pm

Well i have to disagree yet again, RVP's corners are quality, not all the time but no ones are, what we lack is decent movement in the area, if we had the likes of cahill attacking it would be a totally different matter and you would rave over his corners.

Putting his foot through it is what all pros do, but they don't generate the pace and dip that he can.

All this talk about arshavin, i hope he becomes the player you all seem to think he is, anonymous in the first half against liverpool before ONLY JUST scoring from 6 yards.

True 2 of his finishes were very good but against chelsea he had 20 mins and never got a touch.

It will always be the same with supporters, one minute a player is going to be world class the next he is dog shit.

I will say again, if RVP hadn't singe handedly dragged arsenal through some months of absolute mediocrity then we would be looking at 5th or 6th.

Have it

wlchuccc · Post by **wlchuccc** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:26 pm

LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:Well i have to disagree yet again, RVP's corners are quality, not all the time but no ones are, what we lack is decent movement in the area, if we had the likes of cahill attacking it would be a totally different matter and you would rave over his corners.

Putting his foot through it is what all pros do, but they don't generate the pace and dip that he can.

All this talk about arshavin, i hope he becomes the player you all seem to think he is, anonymous in the first half against liverpool before ONLY JUST scoring from 6 yards.

True 2 of his finishes were very good but against chelsea he had 20 mins and never got a touch.

It will always be the same with supporters, one minute a player is going to be world class the next he is dog shit.

I will say again, if RVP hadn't singe handedly dragged arsenal through some months of absolute mediocrity then we would be looking at 5th or 6th.

Have it

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/team/resul ... .1&cc=5739

Check this out by yourself. RVP played almost every single game in Jan or Feb 2009, he only scored one goal against Everton. Actually for the last four months (Jan-April), he only scored a goal. Is this good enough? In March/April fixtures, he played less time but we scored more goals. This is the fact. I know he is in bad form now. As I said earlier, keep him for another season. But if we can cash him in for a lot of $, I don't see why not?!

Again, this is only my stat. But I am surprised why people rate him as the best player for us this season. For us, Gallas/Walcott/Sagna are better player, just my little cents

RNTGOONER · Post by **RNTGOONER** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:01 pm

when he is on fire he is great, but often he goes missing

also whenever he gets the ball in midfield he will pass it back to someone like denilson so he can run foward and recieve the ball again rather than thread a forward pass that he is capable of, he does it so often it must be deliberate, its like he wants everything to come through him
this slows down our attacks.

that said he is still a very good player, he is probably a couple of yards of pace away from being a truley great striker

Gooner Jim · Post by **Gooner Jim** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:04 pm

Yeh we need him, he is such a valuable assest. He has saved us from Europa cup or no european cup competetion.

We need a new chant for him aswel, RVP clapping one is ok but one like eddie would be decent

Post by **I Hate Hleb** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:11 pm

LeftfootlegendGooner wrote: Well i have to disagree yet again, RVP's corners are quality, not all the time but no ones are, what we lack is decent movement in the area, if we had the likes of cahill attacking it would be a totally different matter and you would rave over his corners...

Here we go with that word 'if' again'.

'If' he was as good at taking corners as you suggest, he'd be able to find the players we do have in the team, not the ones we wished we had!!

LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:Putting his foot through it is what all pros do, but they don't generate the pace and dip that he can...

No, that's not right!!

Some players use cunning at their set pieces, such as curling the ball around or over the wall. Othertimes they use the threat of a shot as a decoy and try and pick out a team-mate. However, all RVP seems to do is slam it!! Anyway, just how many goals has Robin scored from free-kicks using the so-called superior technique you credit him with?

LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:..All this talk about arshavin, i hope he becomes the player you all seem to think he is, anonymous in the first half against liverpool before ONLY JUST scoring from 6 yards.

True 2 of his finishes were very good but against chelsea he had 20 mins and never got a touch...

My god

, I can't really believe that part of your response!! If you can't see how good a player Arshaven is - and long before his 4 goals - then I would question your knowledge and judgement. Anyone that knows anything about football could long ago see the guy is a player and a fecking very good one at that. The fact that 'he did nothing' in the first 45minutes against Liverpool except score a goal

, contrasts favourably with most of the other players on the pitch that night!! Yet, it seems the fact he ended up with 4 goals from 4 shots still wasn't enough for you.

LeftfootlegendGooner wrote:..It will always be the same with supporters, one minute a player is going to be world class the next he is dog shit.

You speak for yourself!!

. Some of us know about football and are not that fickle. You're the one that seemingly can't recognise that Arshavin is world class

So you can 'have it' back!!

harryo45 · Post by **harryo45** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:22 pm

Chunky Monkey wrote:I'd rather keep RVP instead of Adebayor or Bentdner any day the bloke has a magical left foot and always scores a few decent free kicks from outside the box

I think he has had his best season since he joined us this year and until recently wasn't injured and was playing well

Do you think there is some sort of friction between Cesc and RVP is a battle of the Ego's Cesc gets injured for a long period - RVP stays injury free and plays virtually every game - now Cesc is back, RVP is injured again

wens the last time this bloke robin 1 foot scored from a free kick. do u watch many arsenal matches. get rid and get 15 mill

digger · Post by **digger** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:31 pm

Â£15m? What would we buy with Â£15m?

We won't get Villa as he's going to be more like Â£40m. I bet those of you who are screaming "sell him!" will be the same ones moaning if we weaken the squad this summer....

hadareud · Post by **hadareud** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:38 pm

as I already posted in another thread today - he's missed 2 league games through injury so far this season (3 on Sunday).

TWO.

He's missed fewer games than any other of our attacking players (Ade, Bendtner, Nasri, Cesc, Theo) through injury.

So could you please take reality into account in your considerations. Not that that's an easy thing to do, or so it seems on this forum.

Post by **Chippy** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:39 pm

digger wrote:Â£15m? What would we buy with Â£15m?

We won't get Villa as he's going to be more like Â£40m. I bet those of you who are screaming "sell him!" will be the same ones moaning if we weaken the squad this summer....

This is the problem. I am with IHH and Quartz

, RvP is massively overrated but I would only want to sell him if we spent the money on a DM or CH., not to pay off the f*cking debt.

wlchuccc · Post by **wlchuccc** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:52 pm

Chippy wrote:
digger wrote:Â£15m? What would we buy with Â£15m?

We won't get Villa as he's going to be more like Â£40m. I bet those of you who are screaming "sell him!" will be the same ones moaning if we weaken the squad this summer....
This is the problem. I am with IHH and Quartz , RvP is massively overrated but I would only want to sell him if we spent the money on a DM or CH., not to pay off the f*cking debt.

Agreed