Bye Bye Ronaldo

Gunnersaurus · Post by **Gunnersaurus** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:57 pm

SPUDMASHER wrote:Actually, they've not accepted a bid at all. There has been no bid.

What they've done is set his sale value at Â£80 million and have given their permission for him and madrid to start talking.

If they've set it at Â£80m then you're probably looking at a final deal somewhere between Â£70m and Â£75m. Still a very big price for any player but you can't blame the Mancs for taking it. They could buy 3 or 4 world class players for that.

If they spend it all which I doubt they will.

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:06 pm

Just worked out at work for an extra Â£10M Real could have bought Newcastle!!!!

Post by **flash gunner** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:16 pm

Boomer wrote: Just worked out at work for an extra Â£10M Real could have bought Newcastle!!!!

Yeah and had Barton for nothing then

I think Ronaldo is world class and im glad he has gone

Charlie! Charlie! · Post by **Charlie! Charlie!** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:52 pm

augie wrote:I made that very point only yesterday rigsby - kaka was a football based decision while ladyboy is a commercial decision in much the same way beckham was. Madrid had recouped the transfer fee for goldenballs through merchandise in a matter of months and while it will take a bit longer here you will still see the same situation.

Jaymitch, I cannot believe that you didnt get the lambasting that you yourself predicted Ronaldo isnt in the same league as messi who, in my opinion at least, isnt as good as kaka. In my opinion you are falling into that same old stats based arguement where by his goals tally means he is this world class player but that totally ignores the fact that goals in england are a lot easier got than in european leagues Anyway if goals alone made you world class then maybe that lazy greedy mercenary c**t we have is world class

I would have Messi slightly ahead of Kaka, but both are better players than Ronaldo in my opinion.

Gooner Jim · Post by **Gooner Jim** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:59 pm

:finger:

Im so pleased from an arsenal perspective but from the view of the premier league its a massive blow. I think la liga will now be considered to a better league than the premier league. I would expect a bidding war between the mancs and the chavs for the likes of ribery, aguerro or benzema whereas we will be fighting to sign eboue's brother

Post by **flash gunner** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:05 pm

Gooner Jim wrote::finger:
Im so pleased from an arsenal perspective but from the view of the premier league its a massive blow. I think la liga will now be considered to a better league than the premier league. I would expect a bidding war between the mancs and the chavs for the likes of ribery, aguerro or benzema whereas we will be fighting to sign eboue's brother

oh yeah i remember that report on the Transfer thread about Cyrille Eboue

Red107 · Post by **Red107** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:12 pm

rigsby wrote:
we spend a week and a half faffing about hagging over a Belgian Centre Back, why the fuck can't we do business smoothly.

Is it smooth business to spend Â£80million on one player. I called that being a mug.

mcdowell42 · Post by **mcdowell42** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:30 pm

rodders999 wrote:
BRAZILLIANT 19 wrote:Well with Â£80 million to spend how long before Rednose is on the phone to Arsene with a Â£50 million bid for Eboue ?

He's not that drunk!!!

He would have to be drunk and stoned out of his mind

rigsby · Post by **rigsby** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:09 pm

You miss my point Red107, I wasnt saying I agreed with what they're paying etc, i was simply saying that other clubs seem to be able to complete deals in a matter of days, while we constantly seem to hit problems etc with them. Look at Arshavin, fussing over nothing. Just grates on me.

Gooner Jim · Post by **Gooner Jim** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:14 pm

rigsby wrote:You miss my point Red107, I wasnt saying I agreed with what they're paying etc, i was simply saying that other clubs seem to be able to complete deals in a matter of days, while we constantly seem to hit problems etc with them. Look at Arshavin, fussing over nothing. Just grates on me.

The way I see it is we got arshavin for around 12 mill when zenit wanted 20 mill at first.
I also find madrids plans funny at times. You have one of the worst left back (who isnt even a left back tbf) playing there, your leaking goals left right and centre so what do you do?
You buy christiano ronaldo and kaka

They quite clearly need a centre back and a left back. I know Pellagrini wont be complaining about kaka and ronaldo but you do wonder if its another case of the chairman/president making decisions that the manager should really be making.

olgitgooner · Post by **olgitgooner** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:17 pm

Selling Ronaldo for Â£80million will reduce Man Utd's debt.

By roughly 10%.

I can't imagine that the Glazers will give Ferguson permission to go on a huge spending spree.

Maybe ol' rednose will throw a hissy. And resign.

OneBardGooner · Post by **OneBardGooner** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:31 pm

Mikegooner87i wrote:
rodders999 wrote:Where the fuck are Madrid getting all that money

Oh and good riddance you prancing ladyboy diving cheating bastard

Now let's hope Sir Anal blows that cash on more dross like Berbatov!!
Aint real funded by the King of spain or something? or the government? the only fact is the money aint thiers!!!!

see the c**t later!

Naaah all the galactico's sign a deal written in old spanish when they join - it's only when the ink is dry that they're told they have to sell their arse in downtown madrid for the first 3 years of their contract... that's why they wanted ronaldivo - He's used to taking it up the fudge tunnel!

LeftfootlegendGooner · Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:35 pm

SPUDMASHER wrote:Actually, they've not accepted a bid at all. There has been no bid.

What they've done is set his sale value at Â£80 million and have given their permission for him and madrid to start talking.

If they've set it at Â£80m then you're probably looking at a final deal somewhere between Â£70m and Â£75m. Still a very big price for any player but you can't blame the Mancs for taking it. They could buy 3 or 4 world class players for that.

you are not going to get 4 world class players for 70-75 million, greedybarndoor would cost 20 alone

Bergkamp-Genius · Post by **Bergkamp-Genius** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:10 pm

olgitgooner wrote:Selling Ronaldo for Â£80million will reduce Man Utd's debt.

By roughly 10%.

I can't imagine that the Glazers will give Ferguson permission to go on a huge spending spree.

Maybe ol' rednose will throw a hissy. And resign.

Tbh Olgit i can't see any way that Fergie won't be spending big this summer, they need a quality wide man to replace Ronaldo and i think they could do with some more creative quality in the middle of the park, Fergie's not the type of manager that would allow his best player to be sold and not use the money to strengthen the team, i think we'll probably see the likes of Ribery and at least one other heading for Utd this summer, imo he will spend all the supposed 80m but if he spends less than 50m i would be shocked.

RoscommonGooner · Post by **RoscommonGooner** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:57 am

DB10Gooner, Michel Platini has responded to your questioning of him on page 1 of this thread

The head of European football has criticised Real Madrid's Â£80m world-record offer for Manchester United's Cristiano Ronaldo, calling it "excessive".

Ronaldo has been angling for a move to his boyhood club since last summer

The Premier League champions accepted the bid after Ronaldo - the reigning world footballer of the year - requested the move, United's website said.

Real Madrid have now been granted permission to discuss terms with the 24-year-old, which United believe will be concluded by June 30.

The remarkable bid comes just days after the Spanish giants signed Brazilian Kaka from AC Milan for a then-world record sum, marginally short of Â£57.5m.

Uefa president Michel Platini said the Â£80m fee was too much when the world was in the middle of a financial crisis.

Platini: Â£80m fee 'excessive'

He said: "It is very puzzling at a time when football faces some of its worst ever financial challenges. These excessive transfers are happening almost every day.

"These transfers are a serious challenge to the idea of fair play and the concept of financial balance in our competitions."

Former United manager Tommy Doherty told Sky News the deal was good news for United, but a further indication "the game's gone mad".

"If I was Alex Ferguson I would cut their hands off and run," he said.

Former United player Clayton Blackmore agreed it was best for his former club to let their star winger leave.

"If Cristiano Ronaldo wants to go, he will not be in a good state of mind and it isn't good for the team," he told Sky News.

But he said the Portuguese international should take heed if he thinks he can turn around the fortunes of Real Madrid, who ended last season trophyless.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-New ... or_Forward