RVP ready to talk to Arsenal about £80k-a-week deal

[123456arsenal]

Atleast ade has had 1 brilliant season, rvp has had one good but not great season also lets not forget that this si the first season he has actually completed

[rtpgooner]

van persie scored 20 goals last season and in january carried the team. he was involved or scored in every game for us in january, and you could say would of been even better with a better strike partner who actually moves in front of him. Van persie is one of the players we have who can, in a match pull something special out of the bag.

IMO the only question is his fitness, it improved last season, yes he had a few niggling injuries but you look at his injuries over the last couple of years and to do a metatarsal and knee ligaments in very unfortunate.

If we cant sign better players than we already have because of finances, then we have to keep our best players and build a team, not sell them

[augie]

out of interest, what do you lot see as RVP's best position? I've always seen him more as a left sided forward rather than an actual striker to play up top as part of a two man strike force but it seems wherever he plays he often struggle to get involved in games, often drifting in and out during the course of the match

Undoubtedly a class player, but i do always wonder where he is going to fit in at the arsenal

And therein lies the conundrum.....nobody is quite sure where to play him In my opinion he aint fast enough to play either as the up top main striker or on the wing in midfield (be that a 4-4-2 or 4-5-1) and I think that he takes too many touches and slows the game down in the Bergkamp role off the main striker. In my opinion he is a committed and passionate player for the club but lacks the consistancy to be a regular goalscorer

[rtpgooner]

out of interest, what do you lot see as RVP's best position? I've always seen him more as a left sided forward rather than an actual striker to play up top as part of a two man strike force but it seems wherever he plays he often struggle to get involved in games, often drifting in and out during the course of the match

Undoubtedly a class player, but i do always wonder where he is going to fit in at the arsenal

And therein lies the conundrum.....nobody is quite sure where to play him In my opinion he aint fast enough to play either as the up top main striker or on the wing in midfield (be that a 4-4-2 or 4-5-1) and I think that he takes too many touches and slows the game down in the Bergkamp role off the main striker. In my opinion he is a committed and passionate player for the club but lacks the consistancy to be a regular goalscorer

Rvp IMO is best played behind the front man. I think we would see a better van persie if he was playing alongside eduardo on a regualr basis or a better striker than bendnter or greedybayor. Rvp is not the quickest or the slowest but i dont think you have to be being a link man, when the ball goes into his feet you want the wingers, arshavin and walcott to bomb on and offer the pace option on the wing. Yes he lacks consistency in his fitness, but just look at last season, his appearances improved and we got 20 goals out of him, so it shows he can score consistently, we just need to make sure he is on the pitch.

Arshavin has often said he does not like playing on the wing and like most prefers to play through the middle, but arshavin is really one of our only players who has got a trick and can beat and commit a player, so i actually prefer arshavin on a wing.

[donaldo]

out of interest, what do you lot see as RVP's best position? I've always seen him more as a left sided forward rather than an actual striker to play up top as part of a two man strike force but it seems wherever he plays he often struggle to get involved in games, often drifting in and out during the course of the match

Undoubtedly a class player, but i do always wonder where he is going to fit in at the arsenal

And therein lies the conundrum.....nobody is quite sure where to play him In my opinion he aint fast enough to play either as the up top main striker or on the wing in midfield (be that a 4-4-2 or 4-5-1) and I think that he takes too many touches and slows the game down in the Bergkamp role off the main striker. In my opinion he is a committed and passionate player for the club but lacks the consistancy to be a regular goalscorer

Rvp IMO is best played behind the front man. I think we would see a better van persie if he was playing alongside eduardo on a regualr basis or a better striker than bendnter or greedybayor. Rvp is not the quickest or the slowest but i dont think you have to be being a link man, when the ball goes into his feet you want the wingers, arshavin and walcott to bomb on and offer the pace option on the wing. Yes he lacks consistency in his fitness, but just look at last season, his appearances improved and we got 20 goals out of him, so it shows he can score consistently, we just need to make sure he is on the pitch.

Arshavin has often said he does not like playing on the wing and like most prefers to play through the middle, but arshavin is really one of our only players who has got a trick and can beat and commit a player, so i actually prefer arshavin on a wing.

Arshavin as the second striker would get as many goals as RVP.My problem with RVP is we give him a new contract and he turns into the sicknote of the 3 previous seasons.As augie says he always seems to take that extra touch too many while Arshavin is always looking for the incisive ball.
IMO neither RVP or Greedy are worth 80k a week.Yes RVP had a good season last season but that came after 3 injury hit seasons.Does he not owe us for sticking by him

[Lethal]

hes not worth half of that

fucking hell robin you disgust me,you spend 4 years being injured,have half a good season then hold the club to ransom

and this all after we offer you a new contract when your locked up on suspicion on rape

sometimes i would love to walk into these players in the street and remind them of a few things

[rtpgooner]

out of interest, what do you lot see as RVP's best position? I've always seen him more as a left sided forward rather than an actual striker to play up top as part of a two man strike force but it seems wherever he plays he often struggle to get involved in games, often drifting in and out during the course of the match

Undoubtedly a class player, but i do always wonder where he is going to fit in at the arsenal

And therein lies the conundrum.....nobody is quite sure where to play him In my opinion he aint fast enough to play either as the up top main striker or on the wing in midfield (be that a 4-4-2 or 4-5-1) and I think that he takes too many touches and slows the game down in the Bergkamp role off the main striker. In my opinion he is a committed and passionate player for the club but lacks the consistancy to be a regular goalscorer

Rvp IMO is best played behind the front man. I think we would see a better van persie if he was playing alongside eduardo on a regualr basis or a better striker than bendnter or greedybayor. Rvp is not the quickest or the slowest but i dont think you have to be being a link man, when the ball goes into his feet you want the wingers, arshavin and walcott to bomb on and offer the pace option on the wing. Yes he lacks consistency in his fitness, but just look at last season, his appearances improved and we got 20 goals out of him, so it shows he can score consistently, we just need to make sure he is on the pitch.

Arshavin has often said he does not like playing on the wing and like most prefers to play through the middle, but arshavin is really one of our only players who has got a trick and can beat and commit a player, so i actually prefer arshavin on a wing.

Arshavin as the second striker would get as many goals as RVP.My problem with RVP is we give him a new contract and he turns into the sicknote of the 3 previous seasons.As augie says he always seems to take that extra touch too many while Arshavin is always looking for the incisive ball.
IMO neither RVP or Greedy are worth 80k a week.Yes RVP had a good season last season but that came after 3 injury hit seasons.Does he not owe us for sticking by him

I think he does owe us, and should be putting pen to paper as soon as the contract was in front of him.

With regards to arshavin i think he would score as many goals as rvp, playing behind the front man but like i said i prefer arshavin on the wing where he can be more involved in the build up play and can actually beat a player, as we dont have that in our squad, Ideally i would like to see a better striker play in front of rvp and we really would see the best of him. His appearance improved last season and he scored 20 goals, lets hope we see the same next season.

[hadareud]

how the hell is he "holding the club to ransom"?

he has 2 years left on his contract and the club wants him to extend, it's as simple as that. It's not a question of him wanting to move, he'd be here next year new contract or not.

When you offer a player a new contract you will have to pay current market value, or at least close to it. Do you think he'd earn less money at any of the other top 4 clubs or in Italy or Spain? Why would he accept a contract that would mean he'd earn much less than if he moved to another club? Everyone is getting on the back of Wenger to sign experienced players, what do you think they will earn? Less than RVP?

I think that the money footballers earn is out of proportion too. But if you want to compete at the top level you either accept it or you don't compete at the top level. Simples.

[Lethal]

and you think van persie is worth 80 grand a week ?

hes inconsistent,injury prone and his performances this season bar his wonder month have not been good enough.

i cant remember him scoring many goals other then penaltys in the second half of the season.

hes not good enough to be starting in a team attempting to win the premier league.

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

and you think van persie is worth 80 grand a week ?

hes inconsistent,injury prone and his performances this season bar his wonder month have not been good enough.

i cant remember him scoring many goals other then penaltys in the second half of the season.

hes not good enough to be starting in a team attempting to win the premier league.

very harsh, 11 assists this season, most by ANY player in the league, worth twice what barndoor gets imo

[hadareud]

and you think van persie is worth 80 grand a week ?

hes inconsistent,injury prone and his performances this season bar his wonder month have not been good enough.

i cant remember him scoring many goals other then penaltys in the second half of the season.

hes not good enough to be starting in a team attempting to win the premier league.

he's scored 4 penalties all season, 16 goals from open play.

20 goals in total and 15 assists. More assists than any other player in the league (11).

He'd earn close to or over 100k at Man Utd and Chelsea and over 100k at a club like Inter. What we think he or any other players is worth bares no relevance. Their market value is dictated by what comparable players earn, it's as simple as that.

edit: about those injuries - he's missed 3 league games this season through injury. I'm pretty sure that's close to the top of least injured players at the club this season. The only season he was injury prone was last season. Breaking a bone in his foot the season before is nothing but bad luck.

[MM99]

and you think van persie is worth 80 grand a week ?

hes inconsistent,injury prone and his performances this season bar his wonder month have not been good enough.

i cant remember him scoring many goals other then penaltys in the second half of the season.

hes not good enough to be starting in a team attempting to win the premier league.

is ade worth 80? is beckham worth over 100k? is ronaldo worth over 200k? no. none of them are worth anywhere near amounts that sort of money, but that is the going rate and whether we agree with it or not due to the competition we have to match those prices, or risk losing our players.

[g88ner]

is ade worth 80? is beckham worth over 100k? is ronaldo worth over 200k? no.

Why isn't Beckham or Ronaldo worth over 100k???

Surely, it's down to simple economics. If signing Beckham or Ronaldo improves a clubs performance on the pitch, as well as ticket sales, shirt sales, tv revenue, etc. then surely he's worth a proportion of whatever success and added income he brings to the club?? - and if that amounts to over 100k a week, then so be it.

[MM99]

is ade worth 80? is beckham worth over 100k? is ronaldo worth over 200k? no.

Why isn't Beckham or Ronaldo worth over 100k???

Surely, it's down to simple economics. If signing Beckham or Ronaldo improves a clubs performance on the pitch, as well as ticket sales, shirt sales, tv revenue, etc. then surely he's worth a proportion of whatever success and added income he brings to the club?? - and if that amounts to over 100k a week, then so be it.

i didnt mean it in relation to the clubs finances/investment wise. i meant in the sense that no footballer, no matter how great they are should be on that kind of money. therefore, its hard for us to imagine rvp on 80k especially as its been his first good season, but in comparison to players that he could be classed amongst, they are also gettign ridiculously high wages.

[Gunner4Life72]

and ade is? If ade is worth 80k a week then rvp is worth 90k imo.

Well, i hate to say this about my Club players, but there is a distinguished difference between Ade and RvP.
Ade is a very talented player with a strong physical presence up front, that can score from difficult positions...... BUT, there's a big (giant) question mark when it comes to work ethic and effort. His attitude stunk last season and fans (which by the way, pay his £80K a week wages) gave him stick for the transfer saga last summer, he just thought the best way to get back at the fans is to dropp performances...
Rvp is a talented SS, but he is NOT (and i mean it) who he thinks he is. He clearly over estimate his skills and it shows why he insists of shooting from not-so-easy angles, when his mates are in the box unmarked and screaming for the ball. And to end it all, RvP can't be very intelligent either since he is going through the same route as Ade last summer to get a new contract... Publicly and in the press...
Charlie Nic is spot on when he says: Who the hell is RvP to question Arsenal or AW ambitions of winning trophies or bringing players in???????