Shock Ade Transfer News....

rtpgooner · Post by **rtpgooner** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:08 pm

we dont know anything, if bordeaux or psg come in for him, he might think with vermaelen already being bought, he has a better chance of first team football elsewhere, same goes for senderos

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:11 pm

ramon wrote:Do City really need Adebayor? This strikes me as possibly a leak by city to hurry up the Tevez deal. That being said, if the plan is to play Robinho on the wing next season, then this could be an interesting option.

City for now have to content themselves with purchasing mercenaries, and with Santa Cruz's injury history and Tevez not being a goal-scoring striker he would be a top addition to the club.

Adebayor is a goal-scorer and with van persie being injury prone, eduardo still a bit injury prone and Bendtner not good enough we would miss his presence.

If he goes i doubt wenger buys a replacement

after 3 pages on this thread i have finally come across a decent post. come out with the usual stuff about him being this or that, but the fact is if he goes, our squad has weakend. a proven replacement won't be brought in, so i say no to the deal. fuck it.

if he wants to go, then he'll have to. if only he could go abroad. but don't think that he'll be replaced man for man, he won't. if any of eddy or rvp are out for any reason, in comes bendtner/vela. not good enough. dont mention theo/arsh cos this ain't a computer game, they just aren't strikers. even so, theo would still have some way to go like bendtner and vela. if ade goes to city, alot of people on here will soon be left eating their words, watch. he didnt score 30 goals in a season for nothing.

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:14 pm

Gunnersaurus wrote:
goonersid wrote: Ade is no loss.

jesus christ!

ok i've heard it all now

Post by **brazilianGOONER** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:17 pm

Karel wrote:
ramon wrote:Do City really need Adebayor? This strikes me as possibly a leak by city to hurry up the Tevez deal. That being said, if the plan is to play Robinho on the wing next season, then this could be an interesting option.

City for now have to content themselves with purchasing mercenaries, and with Santa Cruz's injury history and Tevez not being a goal-scoring striker he would be a top addition to the club.

Adebayor is a goal-scorer and with van persie being injury prone, eduardo still a bit injury prone and Bendtner not good enough we would miss his presence.

If he goes i doubt wenger buys a replacement
after 3 pages on this thread i have finally come across a decent post. come out with the usual stuff about him being this or that, but the fact is if he goes, our squad has weakend. a proven replacement won't be brought in, so i say no to the deal. fuck it.

if he wants to go, then he'll have to. if only he could go abroad. but don't think that he'll be replaced man for man, he won't. if any of eddy or rvp are out for any reason, in comes bendtner/vela. not good enough. dont mention theo/arsh cos this ain't a computer game, they just aren't strikers. even so, theo would still have some way to go like bendtner and vela. if ade goes to city, alot of people on here will soon be left eating their words, watch. he didnt score 30 goals in a season for nothing.

no, he didn't score 30 goals in a season for nothing. he is a good striker, and had rosicky+fabregas+hleb+rvp creating massive ammounts of chances for him, and well, again, he is a good striker, we all know that. as well as we know he doesn't care about the offside rule, or about this club AT ALL.

and i think eduardo is not injury prone, it was a bloody nasty tackle, his ankle did not break on its own.

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:28 pm

i just can't belive that the same old people that come on here and moan about lack of quality in the squad are willing to let him go to a clear RIVAL whilst knowing that he wont be replaced. don't pretend that we'll buy a DM and a CB and/or that richards will join the deal or that we'll get him or him cos it wont happen, lets face reality. obv ade IS a tosser, but surely we'll be the only ones that lose out in this deal, whilst city get themselves a proven prem goalscorer albeit a lazy one. the Â£20m would prob just go straight into the clubs tight pockets. then in comes a 16 year old for the reserves and our summer transfer activity is over. hell no, fuck that. if only wenger could do a fergie, like he sold heinze to madrid not liverpool. as long as he dont want to play for us, i'd ok him moving abroad. it would weaken our sqaud, but you cant have someone here who doesnt want to be. he is defo a money grabber, but if he does join city then that really does say it all for him. would be hated even more! also cant believe some even think it wont be a loss

omg

wake up!

rtpgooner · Post by **rtpgooner** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:29 pm

Karel wrote:
ramon wrote:Do City really need Adebayor? This strikes me as possibly a leak by city to hurry up the Tevez deal. That being said, if the plan is to play Robinho on the wing next season, then this could be an interesting option.

City for now have to content themselves with purchasing mercenaries, and with Santa Cruz's injury history and Tevez not being a goal-scoring striker he would be a top addition to the club.

Adebayor is a goal-scorer and with van persie being injury prone, eduardo still a bit injury prone and Bendtner not good enough we would miss his presence.

If he goes i doubt wenger buys a replacement
after 3 pages on this thread i have finally come across a decent post. come out with the usual stuff about him being this or that, but the fact is if he goes, our squad has weakend. a proven replacement won't be brought in, so i say no to the deal. fuck it.

if he wants to go, then he'll have to. if only he could go abroad. but don't think that he'll be replaced man for man, he won't. if any of eddy or rvp are out for any reason, in comes bendtner/vela. not good enough. dont mention theo/arsh cos this ain't a computer game, they just aren't strikers. even so, theo would still have some way to go like bendtner and vela. if ade goes to city, alot of people on here will soon be left eating their words, watch. he didnt score 30 goals in a season for nothing.

i see where you are coming from, with rvp and eduardo injury prone, but i guess it also depends on what formation wenger plays next season. there isnt to many replacements out there, like for like, but the money could still be used to improve other areas of the squad which would overall improve us.

Bendnter is not every ones cup of tea, and i am no massive fan of him but i would pick bendnter over adebayor, because at least he gives 100%. Adebayor clearly does not want to be at arsenal, so get rid of him.

Henry left, at the time greedybayor stepped up to the plate, there is no reason why given more resposibility and starting appearances why bendner can improve on the 16 goals he got last season.

Arshavin says himself he prefers to play as a striker so rvp and arshavin could be played together. We haven't seen them play together so its hard to judge

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:37 pm

i don't think it depends on our formation next season - purely cos we'll still play 4-4-2 with diaby on the wing

if this deal goes through, and the inevitable happens with wenger buying nobody, come christmas this board will be full of people saying bendtner isnt good enough to start every week, rvp is always injured, blah blah blah. which is why keeping ade leaves us looking good upfront. come off it, arsene wont play arshavin or theo upfront. what i do wish is that ade could be given an immense kick up the arse, realise how much we currently hate him, pull his socks up and come out next season to answer his critics. again, prob not gonna happen.

argh no win situation but you do not sell one of your best to a rival then leave his position unfilled.

Post by **g88ner** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:38 pm

Karel wrote:
Gunnersaurus wrote: Ade is no loss.
jesus christ! ok i've heard it all now

I kind of agree with you Karel, and I'm not too sure if this offer from Citeh (if it's real) is a good thing, or not.

I suppose it depends on who comes in to replace him, and how the Â£20m+ is used.

Either way, last season Adebayor was a joke, and if he plays like that again next season, then we really are lucky to have got rid of him.

But, if he's focused and happy, he can be a very useful player and THAT Adebayor will not be easily replaced.

Ah, well.... on balance, I'd like him gone as long as he's adequately replaced (something Arsenal don't do too well!)

Dan_85 · Post by **Dan_85** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:40 pm

Adebayor can expect to earn something in the region of Â£170,000 a week at City, an amount that is apparently double what he currently earns at Arsenal.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/9/england/2 ... yor-5-year

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:42 pm

that post says it all, it's a case of many ifs and buts and maybes. does he want to be here? probably not. or maybe he does but he cant take the abuse anymore? give him another season i say. if we sold everyone who had a crap season after a good one we'd be in trouble. looks like ac wont be coming in for him anymore. if chelsea can buy the way to the top then so can city. lets not help them along the way.

Cockerill's chin · Post by **Cockerill's chin** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:44 pm

There's lots about Ade I can't stand; the way he has treated the club, the indifferent performances last season, his inability to learn the offside rule. That is why I can see the temptation in moving him on; but, unless the transfer broke what we were reported to have been offered last year (30m) I'd say no.

It is obvious that AW sees Ade as an integral part of our team. To sell him for 20-22m is cheap business which would reflect very poorly on the club. This summer of daft transfer fees should not see Ade leave for 8m less than what Barca reportedly offered for him. I am aware that last season was a poor one, but that was down to a very poor attitude not quality. I think the lad has obvious quality; the rest is down to man-management and we allowed Ade to develop an attitude last year which he would not have been tolerated at certain other clubs.

Rafa turned down a reported 65m for Torres and that signalled Liverpool's intent. I am the first to agree that Ade is not the player that Torres is, but selling our main target man for 22m to a club which is seriously going to threaten our CL ambition seems shortsighted. How will our top players feel if Ade bangs in 20-30 at Eastlands? How will AW look that he could not get the best of the striker and Sparky could? What are our transfer targets going to think of joining a club who sell or clumsily lose integral players on a consistent basis? We have already seen targets from second tier European clubs dismiss us when 5 years ago they would have walked over hot coals. Our reputation is gradually shrinking in line with ambition of the board.

I think last year shocked Adebayor and he realises the adoration he craves depends on consistent performances. I think we will see a comitted Ade if he stays. Accepting 22m of the oil money would be bad business.

rtpgooner · Post by **rtpgooner** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:49 pm

Karel wrote:i don't think it depends on our formation next season - purely cos we'll still play 4-4-2 with diaby on the wing

if this deal goes through, and the inevitable happens with wenger buying nobody, come christmas this board will be full of people saying bendtner isnt good enough to start every week, rvp is always injured, blah blah blah. which is why keeping ade leaves us looking good upfront. come off it, arsene wont play arshavin or theo upfront. what i do wish is that ade could be given an immense kick up the arse, realise how much we currently hate him, pull his socks up and come out next season to answer his critics. again, prob not gonna happen. argh no win situation but you do not sell one of your best to a rival then leave his position unfilled.

I am suggesting wenger could change the formation, not so long a go he mentioned

Next season we will play the formation and system that most suits the players and the balance of the team. That means itâ€™s not rigid. It can evolve throughout the season, depending on circumstances and personnel.

If you play with Theo Walcott for example, you are more tempted to go for three midfielders because Theo is more of a forward than a midfielder in a 4-4-2.â€

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:56 pm

rtpgooner wrote:
Karel wrote:eboue as wing option

Ted B · Post by **Ted B** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 5:59 pm

Cockerill's chin wrote:There's lots about Ade I can't stand; the way he has treated the club, the indifferent performances last season, his inability to learn the offside rule. That is why I can see the temptation in moving him on; but, unless the transfer broke what we were reported to have been offered last year (30m) I'd say no.

It is obvious that AW sees Ade as an integral part of our team. To sell him for 20-22m is cheap business which would reflect very poorly on the club. This summer of daft transfer fees should not see Ade leave for 8m less than what Barca reportedly offered for him. I am aware that last season was a poor one, but that was down to a very poor attitude not quality. I think the lad has obvious quality; the rest is down to man-management and we allowed Ade to develop an attitude last year which he would not have been tolerated at certain other clubs.

Rafa turned down a reported 65m for Torres and that signalled Liverpool's intent. I am the first to agree that Ade is not the player that Torres is, but selling our main target man for 22m to a club which is seriously going to threaten our CL ambition seems shortsighted. How will our top players feel if Ade bangs in 20-30 at Eastlands? How will AW look that he could not get the best of the striker and Sparky could? What are our transfer targets going to think of joining a club who sell or clumsily lose integral players on a consistent basis? We have already seen targets from second tier European clubs dismiss us when 5 years ago they would have walked over hot coals. Our reputation is gradually shrinking in line with ambition of the board.

I think last year shocked Adebayor and he realises the adoration he craves depends on consistent performances. I think we will see a comitted Ade if he stays. Accepting 22m of the oil money would be bad business.

top post. better than those who don't really think about it realistically, and in the long term, and just say the usual fuck of you *word censored* etc. (although i agree he is a prick, his attitude is awful) but really, i hope this doesnt go through cos it's just another step back.

but i'd bite the lip for antother season or at least until january and see if he bucks up his ideas. we cant afford to help city catch us. infact, they are probably up there thinking that we are the ones who will give them a place in the top 4. so this ade deal would help that.

donaldo · Post by **donaldo** » Mon Jul 13, 2009 7:03 pm

Wenger should have sold Greedy last summer when he had the chance.I bet he cant believe someone has come in for him after his performances last season and Wenger is not going to make the same mistake twice.I said a few weeks ago i would take 15m for him.He had One good season in 4 seasons
Now all we need is Eboue out as well