MANURE AWAY THREAD

[tinpot lane]

I cant help feel sorry for the likes of Shava and the 2 centrebacks. I sometimes feel we dont deserve a player like Shava. He deserves to play among the best players in the world not clowns like Almunia (please dont even talk about the first leg of the CL last season), Denilson and Eboue. I thought Gallas and Vermaelen had a good game. We started the second half so well and then that stupid stupid penalty. I wont crucify Diaby cause we did try but still dont think he is good enough.

We didnt deserve to lose this game, but with some of the players we have got, you can never feel safe. Lets hope we sign a couple of players now.

Apart from his wonderful strike, he was woeful. Probably our worst player on the pitch.

We were incredibly unlucky. Defensively i thought we were outstanding, United didn't have a shot on target but were beating us Makeshift midfield didn't help much. Even though i don't rate him as high as others do, we certainly miss Nasri. Almunia was poor again, starting to feel he isn't up to it

United look very poor, didn't cause us any problems. With a full strength team we would of beaten them comfortable. Which shows we have progressed, especially defensively. Our squad still looks a bit thin but i seriously think we can challenge this season. Hopefully anyway

Two more signings please Arsene. I'll doubt we will get one though

[cusamano]

So Eboue is our Designated Diver then?

I hope we´ll sign someone so he´ll be just a substitute player

[ToPocHi]

Hello mates, a new member here and it's a pleasure to be a part of the gooner comunity around the globe.

Introductions aside, as have been said by all, Man Utd didn't win the game, we merely lost it.

I've been reading for a while now and I certainly think that Almunia needs to have better awareness of his actions; otherwise suffer repercussions as seen today. We were clearly leading thanks to a class goal by a class AA23, but couldn't hold on to the lead thanks to some error made by our keeper giving the opposition lads something to shout about. (We bloody deserved a penalty too, obvious that the ref was playing towards Man Utd's favour... Damn!)

And Diaby; I just don't see how any top class player can head that set piece into our own net. I mean seriously... I maybe mistaken, but I was sore as hell when we conceded that OG. Aside from that, he did have some effect in making it dangerous for the opposition at times.

I won't be able to get a wink of sleep tonight. I'm going to be overthinking the "if's" and what is should've been.... Our win!!

[cusamano]

With a full strength team we would of beaten them comfortable. Which shows we have progressed, especially defensively. Our squad still looks a bit thin but i seriously think we can challenge this season. Hopefully anyway

Two more signings please Arsene. I'll doubt we will get one though

That´s right, but there are too much if and would...
No new players = 4th place maximum

[richpye]

One positive that I think will happen is that Wenger will realise we are close to being a league-winning team. About one of two players close

[augie]

Doubtless there will be many who will disagree with me but that game was lost mainly cos of two factors......Lack of Brains & Lack of Courage

Lack of Brains No. 1 Diaby. I shouldnt need to say anymore but I will. Forget the stupid stupid own goal for a minute and think about the amount of times he lost possession through bad passes or delaying on the ball It is all well and good saying that he was the one taking the game to them but that was because he kept running down blind alleys on his own, losing control of the fcuking ball and bemusing the opposition who anticipated better control and were caught out as a result. The man is a gormless fool and no amount of running all over the pitch can make up for that cos at the end of the day he is brainless. As far that goal

Lack of Brains No.2 Wenger. Picked a bad team and made bad substitutions yet again. How the fcuk did he leave diaby on the pitch for the whole game ? Maybe to a lesser degree but rvp did sweet fa as well but was also left on the pitch When will wenger learn that this system does not suit the guy playing up the middle on his own ? Why wait so long to bring in the dude ? We are chasing a game and he gives the guy 15mins ? He is the most natural goalscorer we have you fool so it would make sense to get him on earlier no ?

Lack of Brain No.3 Almunia. I have no doubt that fat granny shagger drew that foul but the stupid *word censored* should have known better than to dive at his feet like a headless chicken How many crosses did he come for in the first 20 mins only for gallas to bale him out every single fcuking time ? I have said it for some time now he is not good enough to be No.1 keeper at a club like ours and it is shocking that he is in that position His command of his 6 yard box and penalty area was abysmal again today.

Lack of Courage No.1 When your team is under the cosh the real men come out fighting.......most of ours wilt Can anybody honestly tell me where song was in the 2nd half ? He was over-run and largely awol and he is our DM mainstay according to many Denilson is way too easy a target for some of you - he was the one breaking up opposition attacks and linking the game for us both in the 1st half and the 2nd half. I am not slating song for anything bad that he did today (although he still doesnt know how to tackle ) but because he went missing in the 2nd half when he was needed most. I have been a strong critic of gallas on here in the past but today, as in every single game this season, he was outstanding. He marshalled our back 4 superbly and indeed covered tv (who didnt play as good as recently imo) on a number of occasions and tried to lead the team forward.

Lack of Courage No.2 The fcuking ref It takes a lot of courage to go to salford and do a fair job reffing the match but slaphead dean didnt have the required courage It takes fcuk all courage to book 6 opposition players and of course dean had a great game in this regard. It takes a lot of courage to turn down a shrek dive in old shatford...again old slaphead found wanting. It takes a lot of courage to award a penalty to arshavin when blatently fouled in the area by fletcher but yet again dean goes awol This man wasnt the biggest reason why we blew this game but he def played a big part in it....the *word censored* I think in future we should inform the fa that we arent going to bother travelling to play them away and just give them the points cos we are not going to get fair play from the officials no matter which prick they send up to do us

[peeps112]

Cant describe the anger i have for this team, fuckin diaby should never be wearing the arsenal shirt.. Why not start with bendtner instead of Diaby/Eboue?

I wonder, are they going to even discuss the possibility that shrek dived?

United didn't win the game, we lost it.

Was you watching that game mate?

Apart from the OG Diaby played well.

were you watching the game? i saw diaby give the ball away time and time again. and when he finally broke through he bungled the shot. he didnt play poorly but dont come with the played well opinion. patrick viera he is not.

[cusamano]

And Diaby; I just don't see how any top class player can head that set piece into our own net. I mean seriously... I maybe mistaken, but I was sore as hell when we conceded that OG. Aside from that, he did have some effect in making it dangerous for the opposition at times.

Welcome to the forum, mate!

I disagree on Diaby. He´s too floppy, compared to AA23 he is not a menace to the opponent imo.

[peeps112]

augie your post was excellent but i will disagree with "lack of courage number 1." song and denilson completely bossed the midfield and that did not change when we went down. all credit to them.

[GallasVoice]

Lack of Brains No.2 Wenger. Picked a bad team and made bad substitutions yet again. How the fcuk did he leave diaby on the pitch for the whole game ? Maybe to a lesser degree but rvp did sweet fa as well but was also left on the pitch When will wenger learn that this system does not suit the guy playing up the middle on his own ? Why wait so long to bring in the dude ? We are chasing a game and he gives the guy 15mins ? He is the most natural goalscorer we have you fool so it would make sense to get him on earlier no ?

Bollocks

[alchyrob]

tried to write coherent message but just ended up rambling (god beer is good!).

basically, more positives to take (ie, we were loads better then them) then negatives (ie the usual we have shit GK) so long as our players are sensible enough to actually take confidence from this, and wenger sensible enough to notice weaknesses (hahahahaha ) then no need to be too donwhearted.

apart from fact we lost to cruntingbastardfuckingscummymancshits

oh well, onwards and upwards!!

[augie]

augie your post was excellent but i will disagree with "lack of courage number 1." song and denilson completely bossed the midfield and that did not change when we went down. all credit to them.

I thought that for 80 minutes tonight denilson was 2nd only to gallas for our man of the match. However what I am saying is that in the 2nd half song was nowhere near the action - he didnt get near closing them down, he didnt win tackles and didnt intercept fcuk all either The position of DM is fundemental in big games like this why we are fighting to control the tempo and in the 1st half we did this and song looked good but in the 2nd half when we needed him to take control he was missing

[tinpot lane]

Lack of Brains No.2 Wenger. Picked a bad team and made bad substitutions yet again. How the fcuk did he leave diaby on the pitch for the whole game ? Maybe to a lesser degree but rvp did sweet fa as well but was also left on the pitch When will wenger learn that this system does not suit the guy playing up the middle on his own ? Why wait so long to bring in the dude ? We are chasing a game and he gives the guy 15mins ? He is the most natural goalscorer we have you fool so it would make sense to get him on earlier no ?

Lack of Brain No.3 Almunia. I have no doubt that fat granny shagger drew that foul but the stupid c**t should have known better than to dive at his feet like a headless chicken How many crosses did he come for in the first 20 mins only for gallas to bale him out every single fcuking time ? I have said it for some time now he is not good enough to be No.1 keeper at a club like ours and it is shocking that he is in that position His command of his 6 yard box and penalty area was abysmal again today.
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The system doesn't work when you play a player like Robin upfront alone. Arshavin was useless out on the wing, everything he done apart from his goal ended up with a red shirt gaining posession. Diaby and Denilson can't play together, don't think there is a brain cell between them

Almunia stupidity for the penalty was beyond belief. Rooney was going away from goal and he decides to bring him down I always thought he was a good keeper but never a great. Starting to think i was wrong and that he is average

[augie]

Lack of Brains No.2 Wenger. Picked a bad team and made bad substitutions yet again. How the fcuk did he leave diaby on the pitch for the whole game ? Maybe to a lesser degree but rvp did sweet fa as well but was also left on the pitch When will wenger learn that this system does not suit the guy playing up the middle on his own ? Why wait so long to bring in the dude ? We are chasing a game and he gives the guy 15mins ? He is the most natural goalscorer we have you fool so it would make sense to get him on earlier no ?

Bollocks

Would you care to elaborate on that eloquent post ? Would you have started eboue ? Would you have subbed diaby ? Did you think rvp played well ? Maybe you think that 15 minutes is enough for eduardo to come in and change the game ? We are all pissed my good man but if you are going to disagree with me at least explain where and why you are doing so

[Gunnerz4life]

I cant help feel sorry for the likes of Shava and the 2 centrebacks. I sometimes feel we dont deserve a player like Shava. He deserves to play among the best players in the world not clowns like Almunia (please dont even talk about the first leg of the CL last season), Denilson and Eboue. I thought Gallas and Vermaelen had a good game. We started the second half so well and then that stupid stupid penalty. I wont crucify Diaby cause we did try but still dont think he is good enough.

We didnt deserve to lose this game, but with some of the players we have got, you can never feel safe. Lets hope we sign a couple of players now.

Apart from his wonderful strike, he was woeful. Probably our worst player on the pitch.

We were incredibly unlucky. Defensively i thought we were outstanding, United didn't have a shot on target but were beating us Makeshift midfield didn't help much. Even though i don't rate him as high as others do, we certainly miss Nasri. Almunia was poor again, starting to feel he isn't up to it

United look very poor, didn't cause us any problems. With a full strength team we would of beaten them comfortable. Which shows we have progressed, especially defensively. Our squad still looks a bit thin but i seriously think we can challenge this season. Hopefully anyway

Two more signings please Arsene. I'll doubt we will get one though

The worst player on the pitch? A bit exaggerated dont you think? The thing about great players is that they might be having the worst of days but they can create that moment of magic and change a game. He created two moments of magic and we should have been 2 nil up.

Another thing that not too many people realise is that Arshavin is so wasted playing wide right be it in midfield or part of a 3 man attack. He is our best player by far and we should make the most of his abilities which are wasted by playing him wide right. Im not a great fan of the 4 3 3 formation we are playing under even though we made such a good start to the season. We dont have the players to make it successful. Arshavin should be given a more central Bergkamp like role.