Is Wenger in the last chance saloon?

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Percy Dalton
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Post by Percy Dalton »

N7,

You are right, maybe Wenger is the best man for the job if we have no money to spend.

The problem is that Wenger himself has said there is cash in the piggy bank. He c,not have it both ways.

I hate our fucking board and as much as I am losing faith in Wenger I hold him in far gretater esteem still than Danny Diamonds and that cigar puffing old buffer Hill-Wood. If the board had hung Wenger out to dry buy suggesting that finances were available when they were not I would be backing some kind of revolt against the club.

However, Wenger himself has said he has the money to spend should he so wish. If this is not the case then he is as bad as the rest of them and I would want him gone too.

The reason we are all so pissed off is that the club suggest one thing and then do another. The club can throw out all the spin it likes but they are going to find it very hard to answer questions such as why we have not re-invested incoming transfer fees into a playing squad that was shown to be lightweight last season.

Anyhow, if we wanted a manager that was good at doing things on a budget then we should have got in Mr Twitchcheeseontoasthead when he was at Pompey!

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Post by Bergkamp-Genius »

Is it possible we have signed some one and not released the details yet ?

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Post by the playing mantis »

wenger has money to spend this summer a significant amount too.

the youth system is being derided as the club have failed ato win any trophy in 4 years and failed to mount a serious challenge in to a major trophy in all but 2 of those years (i mean league or CL).

how can a squad that is undeniably weaker than last year (i wanted toure and elephant washer out as i thought they would be replaced), hope to improve on the woeful (for arsenal) performance last season??? how? none of the failings of last year have been addressed (vermalean a great signing so far but still no CB depth).

Stop going on about the good start to the season, everton were distracted and abysmal, pompey are turd, as are celtic and Man U look decidely off colour (and not because we made them look off colour they werent harrassing our players or closing down like they usually do) yet still won when it mattered.

the fact that 2 or 3 proper signings could catapult this team to serious contenders is the main issue that annoys people why needlessly hamper yourself by not spending????? it makes no sense.

i can really see man city and sperz in the mix for top 4 with us relying on liverpools malaise to sneak in maybe. But we will definetely not challenge for the major honours come squeaky bum time

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We are playing for 4th place get used to it :banghead: :banghead:

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Is anybody in the least bit suprised that YET again we have failed to strenghten? Its obvious that there is a serious lack of ambition, and that the board/Wenger whoever is responsible is yet again happy to finish 4th and qualify for the champs league. However for a club like Arsenal finishing 4th and not seriously challenging for the title is simply not good enough. Ive read that people think we have enough defensive cover if either Gallas or Vermaelen get injured, which is more than likely to happen, but neither Sernderos or Silvestre and good enough, which leaves just Djourou. Likewise people have said we dont need to strengthen up front, but lets be honest, Bendtner isnt good enough, Van Persie is not an out and out striker, Eduardo is still unprovern and Walcott is hit and miss. We werent strong enought last season, and yet our squad this year is questionably weaker.

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Post by REB »

Bergkamp-Genius wrote:Is it possible we have signed some one and not released the details yet ?

:coffeespit:


wenger out next summer, time for someone new to take us up a level instead of playing for 4th place every season so the *word censored* in the boardroom can pay off there mortgage early and make a huge profit on there shares when they sell them :roll:

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REBEL GOONER wrote:
Bergkamp-Genius wrote:Is it possible we have signed some one and not released the details yet ?
:coffeespit:

wenger out next summer, time for someone new to take us up a level instead of playing for 4th place every season so the c**ts in the boardroom can pay off there mortgage early and make a huge profit on there shares when they sell them :roll:
I'l take that as a no :(

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Post by Rob »

Really - this is 'Groundhog Day', isn't it ?

This time last year we were all sitting here saying the same things about the same lack of action and ambition.



:roll: :roll: :roll: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

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Post by donaldo »

REBEL GOONER wrote:
Bergkamp-Genius wrote:Is it possible we have signed some one and not released the details yet ?

:coffeespit:


wenger out next summer, time for someone new to take us up a level instead of playing for 4th place every season so the c**ts in the boardroom can pay off there mortgage early and make a huge profit on there shares when they sell them :roll:
Reb

Our spinless board wont sack Wenger ever.He is the perfect manager for Danny boy and co.He doesnt spend money.
Remember we pay the highest ticket prices in world football :heads:

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thats ok for rich londoners like you don with your huge london wages but for poor paddies like me it costs too much :wink:

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Post by Bergkamp-Genius »

In a way not signing anyone is good, this way there can be no excuses if we fail, had we signed a couple of cheap mediocre squad players, then it could have been argued that lack of transfer activity was not to blame. This way it's black and white if we do well the manager has to be congratulated, if not, he has failed again, but this time he and his knows best brigade have no excuse.

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Bergkamp-Genius wrote:In a way not signing anyone is good, this way there can be no excuses if we fail, had we signed a couple of cheap mediocre squad players, then it could have been argued that lack of transfer activity was not to blame. This way it's black and white if we do well the manager has to be congratulated, if not, he has failed again, but this time he and his knows best brigade have no excuse.
Its a question of what the word fail means, I imagine if we finish outside the top 4 then the board would see that as failure, but to me not winning the title is failure

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Post by Jumpers For Goalposts »

No more arrivals despite:-
£40million in
£10million out
= surplus of £30million.

Our 2 major shareholders are both multi-billionaires whilst Fizsman is rumoured to be worth £250million.

A new stadium that was supposed to allow us to compete at the very highest level.

Ticket prices that most of us struggle to afford.

We haven't beaten a Top 4 rival at the business end of the season for as long as I can remember.

£100million a year wage bill for the likes of Eboue, Diaby, Bendtner etc.

What the fcuk is happening at our Club??

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GoonerN5 wrote:
Bergkamp-Genius wrote:In a way not signing anyone is good, this way there can be no excuses if we fail, had we signed a couple of cheap mediocre squad players, then it could have been argued that lack of transfer activity was not to blame. This way it's black and white if we do well the manager has to be congratulated, if not, he has failed again, but this time he and his knows best brigade have no excuse.
Its a question of what the word fail means, I imagine if we finish outside the top 4 then the board would see that as failure, but to me not winning the title is failure
To some we could finish 10th and they would have excuses for Wenger. I also think the board would still think Wenger could do no wrong even if we had a couple of finishes outside the top four.

I could list all the excuses now that are going to be used through the season and at the end of the season if things go wrong for us, and i could list all the reasons now why things are likely to go wrong, i don't believe wenger can't see the pitfalls, he has fallen into them often enough, the question is how many seasons is it going to take him to realise what to do about avoiding them instead of just assuming he will.

For me it's not the not winning silverware i find hard to take, it's the deliberately not strengthening the team to give us the best chance of winning silverware. If wenger did everything he could to make the team as strong as possible i would have no complaints if we won nothing, i'd know we did everything we could and thats all i ask for.

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Bergkamp-Genius wrote:
GoonerN5 wrote:
Bergkamp-Genius wrote:In a way not signing anyone is good, this way there can be no excuses if we fail, had we signed a couple of cheap mediocre squad players, then it could have been argued that lack of transfer activity was not to blame. This way it's black and white if we do well the manager has to be congratulated, if not, he has failed again, but this time he and his knows best brigade have no excuse.
Its a question of what the word fail means, I imagine if we finish outside the top 4 then the board would see that as failure, but to me not winning the title is failure
To some we could finish 10th and they would have excuses for Wenger. I also think the board would still think Wenger could do no wrong even if we had a couple of finishes outside the top four.

I could list all the excuses now that are going to be used through the season and at the end of the season if things go wrong for us, and i could list all the reasons now why things are likely to go wrong, i don't believe wenger can't see the pitfalls, he has fallen into them often enough, the question is how many seasons is it going to take him to realise what to do about avoiding them instead of just assuming he will.

For me it's not the not winning silverware i find hard to take, it's the deliberately not strengthening the team to give us the best chance of winning silverware. If wenger did everything he could to make the team as strong as possible i would have no complaints if we won nothing, i'd know we did everything we could and thats all i ask for.
Cant argue with any of that

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