CHELSEA BANNED FROM SIGNING PLAYERS

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Radford149
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Its Up 4 Grabs Now wrote:Not sure if it’s exactly the same cos the thing about this case is he was supposedly under contract, which is what Chelsea are being punished for. Whereas with Cesc he wasn’t. Not saying we necessarily have the moral high ground but from a purely legal point of view it seems we exploited a loophole, they broke the rules.

But, I agree they'll quite likely somehow get it reduced at least to 1 transfer window. And I am half-expecting FIFA to try & come after us too at some point so I’m only half laughing at the Chav twats expense. For now.
Radford suggest that this is all about clubs feeling hard done by by clubs with more clout. tapping up of players has always gone on and always will. is sad that chelsea have been banned from buying players as if we beat them next year it will be a tainted victory. Radford wants to beat the best team that they put out not one thats been handicapped.

its a sad day for football and yet again shows the authorities for being the petty minded wankers that they are.

Radford hates the russians but hates the fact that they are being denied the right to "improve" their team as they see fit.

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Radford149 wrote: Radford suggest that this is all about clubs feeling hard done by by clubs with more clout. tapping up of players has always gone on and always will.
That doesn't make it acceptable though, surely?

I've been critical of Arsenal's youth policy too, because honestly I think it's massively unfair to expect little clubs to develop these great young talents only to have them stolen off them as soon as they start reaching their potential! :evil:

It's in the greater interest of football that bigger clubs are stopped from ripping off and stealing young talents from small clubs who probably feel they are powerless to stop it.

I've heard that this will lead to UEFA/FIFA's plan to ban trade of under 18s and that at the very least will mean small clubs will be able to demand a more reasonable fee from big clubs.... it may be bad news for Arsenal and Wenger, but good news for football as a whole as it's money made from developing and selling these players that allow smaller clubs to survive and even prosper.

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Just had a thought: If Fifa applied a similar ban to Arsenal, would we notice? :oops: :roll: :lol: :lol: :wink:

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I Hate Hleb wrote:Just had a thought: If Fifa applied a similar ban to Arsenal, would we notice? :oops: :roll: :lol: :lol: :wink:
you clearly havent read page 5 have you :roll: :lol:

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g88ner wrote:
Radford149 wrote: Radford suggest that this is all about clubs feeling hard done by by clubs with more clout. tapping up of players has always gone on and always will.
That doesn't make it acceptable though, surely?

radford suggest that it is acceptable.

I've been critical of Arsenal's youth policy too, because honestly I think it's massively unfair to expect little clubs to develop these great young talents only to have them stolen off them as soon as they start reaching their potential! :evil:

Radford suggest that you are being neive here, the poaching of talent should not be consigned to adults only. if a person thinks they can do better elsewhere then they should be allowed to do so.

It's in the greater interest of football that bigger clubs are stopped from ripping off and stealing young talents from small clubs who probably feel they are powerless to stop it.

from Radford point of veiw would it not be better for a young player to have the football education that say a club like Arsenal can give him instead of having to stay at some backwater club just because fifa or uefa tell him he has to.

I've heard that this will lead to UEFA/FIFA's plan to ban trade of under 18s and that at the very least will mean small clubs will be able to demand a more reasonable fee from big clubs.... it may be bad news for Arsenal and Wenger, but good news for football as a whole as it's money made from developing and selling these players that allow smaller clubs to survive and even prosper.

Radford asks "you are then saying tp a player under 18, sorry son but you cannot move" that sir is called slavery. what happend to freedom of choice and movement?

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projoe wrote:
I Hate Hleb wrote:Just had a thought: If Fifa applied a similar ban to Arsenal, would we notice? :oops: :roll: :lol: :lol: :wink:
you clearly havent read page 5 have you :roll: :lol:
:oops: :oops: :oops:

Ironically, I did read it!! :shock: :oops: Mind you, that was after having finished reading a lot of Sami's shit, so my brain was obviously still in defragmentation mode!! :lol: :lol: :wink:

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I Hate Hleb wrote:
projoe wrote:
I Hate Hleb wrote:Just had a thought: If Fifa applied a similar ban to Arsenal, would we notice? :oops: :roll: :lol: :lol: :wink:
you clearly havent read page 5 have you :roll: :lol:
:oops: :oops: :oops:

Ironically, I did read it!! :shock: :oops: Mind you, that was after having finished reading a lot of Sami's shit, so my brain was obviously still in defragmentation mode!! :lol: :lol: :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Chelski's ban maybe increased if they appeal... :lol:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sp ... lette.html

CHELSEA have been warned that they could have their transfer ban increased!

The Blues were stunned on Thursday when FIFA's Disputes Resolution Chamber imposed an embargo on the club signing players until January 2011 for illegally poaching Gael Kakuta.

French starlet Kakuta, now 18, who was nabbed from Lens in 2007, was also banned from playing for four months.

Chelsea were outraged at the decision and have vowed to mount the strongest possible appeal at the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) in Switzerland.

They claimed the verdict was "totally disproportionate to the alleged offence" and there were dark mutterings of an anti- English conspiracy.

However, Ian Blackshaw, an international sports lawyer who sits on the CAS, has told Chelsea the court has the power to hit them even harder than FIFA did.

It means Blues' Russian owner Roman Abramovich (left) faces a case of Russian Roulette.

Blackshaw said: "While it is possible for the court to reduce the penalty, it is open to the CAS - if they take the view that the penalty imposed isn't severe enough - to impose a higher penalty.

"This has happened in a number of doping cases where the CAS has said the body concerned was too lenient, a two-year ban was not sufficient and the punishment did not fit the crime.

"They have then increased the punishment to three or even four years.

"This is the risk Chelsea will take in this case even though the risk may be more theoretical than actual or practical."

It had been assumed Chelsea had nothing to lose by appealing and at worst the FIFA ruling - banning them from buying players during the next two transfer windows - would be upheld.

But now further danger has been exposed. Blackshaw, though, believes Chelsea have an advantage because they can bring more evidence to the table and could get Kakuta to give his side of the story.

He said: "Chelsea have 21 days to give notice of their appeal to the CAS in Lausanne.

"The CAS is the supreme court of world sport, you cannot go any higher than that. I don't want to prejudge the appeal but the advantage Chelsea have is that under CAS rules they can look at the case all over again from scratch.

"They can accept new evidence and new information which perhaps wasn't in front of FIFA.

"Chelsea can introduce Kakuta as a witness to say what the facts were as far as he was concerned.

"They can appeal against every aspect of the ruling, the fine and the sanctions - which do seem rather harsh and swingeing - and there are precedents for the court to reduce the penalty."

Italian giants Roma were banned from signing players for two transfer windows five years ago over their move for Philippe Mexes of Auxerre. This was reduced to one window on appeal.

As well as the transfer ban, FIFA also dished out fines totalling almost £800,000 to Kakuta and the club.

It is expected Chelsea's case will be heard before Christmas.

And Lens president Gervais Martel said: "I hope Chelsea will appeal and that the financial sanction against them will be even more important.

"Small clubs can no longer let them act like this as Kakuta had been with us since he was eight years old and the investment in his training led us to have high hopes for him.

"Foreign clubs and in particular the English do not respect regulations over young players."

Blues skipper John Terry admitted he was "shocked" at the ban.

One of his reasons for staying at Chelsea rather than quitting for Manchester City was he was satisfied by the club's ambitions and that they would be able to compete in the transfer market.

But the ban means the Blues' ageing team cannot be freshened up to maintain the challenge for major trophies.

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