Jack Wilshire??????

ambarron · Post by **ambarron** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:58 am

Five league games in, three champions league games in -

correct me if I am wrong but has his sole appearance been a 20 min sub appearance v celtic at the emairates???

why why why?? i know he is young but he is such a talent and in a squad where quality is lower than in previous seasons, why isnt he getting more game time!!

the same question applies to Vela (although I don't rate him in the same league as JacK)

ramon · Post by **ramon** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:20 pm

umm Vela has been out injured and Jack is too young and ven if he did play and if we did lose then the same people would say le boss is playing too many youngsters -

cant win

Post by **I Hate Hleb** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:21 pm

He also came on for the last couple of minutes against Liege, but your point is correct. Saturday would have been a great opportunity to give him 20 minutes of so but Wenger choose to put Bendtner on at right midfield - a position the Dane admitted he doesn't like playing - instead!!

Unfortunately, Wenger would prefer to play some of the players out of position in his never-ending quest to produce 'total football' - even if it is at the expense of team balance!!

donaldo · Post by **donaldo** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:45 pm

ramon wrote:umm Vela has been out injured and Jack is too young and ven if he did play and if we did lose then the same people would say le boss is playing too many youngsters -

cant win

C'mon ramon

The point is bring him on when the game is won with 30 mins to go like the Pompey and Wigan games were.

Skooner · Post by **Skooner** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:49 pm

After we went 2-0 up on Saturday I predicted Wengerâ€™s substitutions and was exactly right with who would come on and off. Other top managers would have used this as a chance to give a couple of the youngsters some game time but itâ€™s like Wenger has a rigid plan that he wonâ€™t deviate from.

Bendtner has played in every game so far this season so I am sure he wouldnâ€™t have been gutted to not get on and even if he was it shouldnâ€™t influence Wengerâ€™s decision. He also had the opportunity to take off someone like Cesc (recently injured) or Gallas (injury prone) to avoid further injuries but he never does. Heâ€™ll then complain about them being fatigued/injured later in the season.

Knowing Wenger heâ€™ll end up throwing Wilshere and Vela into a tough away game from the start when the team are struggling in the winter months.

ramon · Post by **ramon** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:54 pm

They will be given chances i think - you know how he is with the younger lads - he wont play them until he thinks they are ready to peak -remember with Walcott too

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:56 pm

ramon wrote:They will be given chances i think - you know how he is with the younger lads - he wont play them until he thinks they are ready to peak -remember with Walcott too

Link?

ambarron · Post by **ambarron** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:58 pm

ramon wrote:umm Vela has been out injured and Jack is too young and ven if he did play and if we did lose then the same people would say le boss is playing too many youngsters -

cant win

too young??? are u having a laugh, i watched him in both last years and this years emierates cup destroy the opposition!! he is ready make no doubts about that and while I ament suggesting he starts every game he should be playing more!!

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:00 pm

ramon wrote:They will be given chances i think - you know how he is with the younger lads - he wont play them until he thinks they are ready to peak -remember with Walcott too

Walcott has peaked?

Fuck me, I must have missed that..

green gooner · Post by **green gooner** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:07 pm

At what age did the Roooooooo make his debut for the Toffees

If you are good enough then you are old enough, end of.

donaldo · Post by **donaldo** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:07 pm

Skooner wrote:After we went 2-0 up on Saturday I predicted Wengerâ€™s substitutions and was exactly right with who would come on and off. Other top managers would have used this as a chance to give a couple of the youngsters some game time but itâ€™s like Wenger has a rigid plan that he wonâ€™t deviate from.

You can predict the subs coming on as they are the ones who warm up just after half time and barring injuries the 1st sub will be around the 65-70 minute mark whether we are winning or losing

ramon · Post by **ramon** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:10 pm

relax ladies - he will come good when his chance is given.

Skooner · Post by **Skooner** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:15 pm

donaldo wrote:
Skooner wrote:After we went 2-0 up on Saturday I predicted Wengerâ€™s substitutions and was exactly right with who would come on and off. Other top managers would have used this as a chance to give a couple of the youngsters some game time but itâ€™s like Wenger has a rigid plan that he wonâ€™t deviate from.

You can predict the subs coming on as they are the ones who warm up just after half time and barring injuries the 1st sub will be around the 65-70 minute mark whether we are winning or losing

Fair point!

Might have a go at predicting them before kick off on Saturday, reckon I won't be far wrong (barring injuries of course).

I_AM_GOONER · Post by **I_AM_GOONER** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:08 pm

Maybe one eye on the Carling Cup match as he will almost certainly play the full ninety?

Wenger is doing the right thing and easing Wilshere in... There is a ton of expectation on his shoulders and he is only 17... long season ahead, he will make plenty of appearances this season...

Coppo d' Gooner · Post by **Coppo d' Gooner** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:25 pm

franksav63 wrote:
ramon wrote:They will be given chances i think - you know how he is with the younger lads - he wont play them until he thinks they are ready to peak -remember with Walcott too
Walcott has peaked? Fuck me, I must have missed that..

Probably in his pants mate