Emmanuel Eboue

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Boomer wrote:
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LeGinge (Northern Branch) wrote:I concur with Swale here. Eboue has knuckled down and put in some good to exceptional performances since the disgraceful way he was treated by some fans last year.

In my opinion it shows bollocks to come back and play the way he has. Admittedly he still dives and 'lives on the edge' but many players in Arsenal's history have done those things and the fans turn a blind eye (Pires diving, Bergkamp elbowing, Wright two footing) because they are 'world class'! The simple fact is Eboue is a decent footballer, like Diaby, like Bendtner, like Denilson but there is this trend in the modern game to label people 'shit' or 'world class' especially, it seems by our fans. If your deemed 'world class' you can get away with these traits because 'that's what makes them great' but if you're just a normal player you become a scapegoat!

The simple fact is when your building a side the way Wenger is you're not going to have 11 world class players. You need players Like Eboue as they are characters, they will player wherever they're asked without moaning and they will try. So you might not like him (he probably doesn't like you!) but he is an Arsenal player and should get have our support.

Eboue . . . take a bow son!
Excellent post, especially the part about people labelling players world class or shit...that happens all too often

Even in my sunday team, we turn up to play and someone will say, their number 10 is world class, or their defenders are complete shit...when in actual fact, they are both probably alright, but ones slightly better!
Gentlemen, let me ask you something. Well alright let me tell you something. :wink:

Would you qualify Lee Dixon as world class? I wouldn't. The man was competent, worked hard and was a lesser gog in the team. Much like Eboue is now. But he could defend. He had a basic awareness of where to be on the pitch and when to be there. I accept he had three better colleagues around him and a truely top class goalkeeper but by having the correct defensive attributes he will always be recalled highly by Arsenal fans as one of the better defensive players we've had. Eboue won't reach those highs as he lacks the most basic requirements for his position.
Im not sure you have understood what we are saying...Players are too easily labelled as Shit, just because they arent as good as other around them, Lee Dixon wasnt World class no, but neither was he shit...its the same situation with a lot of players!
Dixon was 'good' bordering great! Eboue.....as most have said is a 'decent' right back. Hence why AW replaced him.
Yes ok, but the fact is, neither are world class, and neither are Shit!

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Swale_Gooner1985 wrote:Im not sure you have understood what we are saying...Players are too easily labelled as Shit, just because they arent as good as other around them, Lee Dixon wasnt World class no, but neither was he shit...its the same situation with a lot of players!
But Eboue is a shit defender. Just defender. He may be a fine athlete, have good dribling skills, a good heart, improving attitude. Or anything else you may care to mention. But in the key category, defensive ability, he literally is shit.

Let me give you an example to look for next time he plays right back against a team that offer an semblence of attack..

An opposition player will come towards Eboue, he will knock the ball square infield to a team mate. Eboue will watch the ball go square, possibly even move towards the ball. The player on the wing will run past the now ball watching Eboue whilst the recipient of the first pass will slide the ball in behind Eboue who will be hopelessly out of position. A simple one-two if you like.

But he gets caught by it time and time again.

In any standard of football the in ability to track that run means one thing.

You are shit at defending.

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Fabregas spend about the last 10 games before tuesday making poor passes and delivering bad set pieces, how many times did Soppy old Radford come on here and call him sh

difference is fabregass is a top player going through a very average period for him. his passes normaly find their target.. eboue on the other hand, is a bad player going through an average spell for him, and is used to passing the ball to the opponents.

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I think that the boos that Eboue had to endure last season were disgraceful and only damaged his confidence and made him play all the more poorly thereby making him into the poor player that everybody said he was! I fully agree with the author that he has shown great character to bounce back from that and played very well against Olympiakos at RIGHT BACK the other day.

Eboue is a right back and the main reason he was made to look like a poor player was because Wenger was playing him out of position on the right wing and he was not up to the challenge. I think that it is a close call between him and Sagna for the right back spot at the moment and Eboue CAN defend and is actually very strong in the tackle in my opinion.

Whilst he is very adept at going forward from right back, it is a different propersition to permanatly playing in an advanced position, as his main strength when attacking from right back is when he makes the overlapping runs.

However it always annoys me when Wenger plays him on the right wing as this is obviously not his position especially in the current formation whereby he is one of an attacking three and is selcted to play there ahead of the likes of Eduardo and Rosicky which makes for a very defensive line up.

Stick to playing him at right back Arsene!

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Swale_Gooner1985 wrote: Yes ok, but the fact is, neither are world class, and neither are Shit!
I wouldn't call him shit as he walk into most prem teams. However, actions speak louder then words which is how we judge players.

Look at Tommy V - Boy this guy has got stuck in. A proper Central defender. I'd like to look at his passport as I'm sure he's British! :lol:

Walcott - Not many, if any, dislike him due to his age. But he works hard most of the time and is still developing.

Sagna - What has he done wrong. Nothing! Maybe a few dodgy game and a brilliant first season but doesn't do anything silly.

Think why you don't like Ronaldo.....It's the diving! We all know and are aware how skillful the guy is but we dislike him for cheating.
Which is the same for Eboue!

Yes- he's decent but it's the stupid diving, cheating and moaning at refs which make's us dislike him. If he's cut this out of his game we wouldn't be having this thread.

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DERRY GOONER wrote:cast ure minds back to the man city game a few weeks back. our great no.27 came on for the last 15 - 20 mins, and in that time, he managed to kick mid air when trying to kick the ball, get skinned by adebayer (yes adebayor) play city onside for 1 of their goals, play an easy pass to a city player. he was also at fault for the pen in belgium when he gave the ball away in midfield. thats just of the top of my head. also a professional footballer should be able to use his bad foot in some capacity, this clown can not use it AT ALL. had to laugh when i read eboue loves the club, of course he does. their giving him £40k a week (or thereabouts) when hes not worth £5k a week. i was at that wigan game, and believe me i was 1 of those who booed the fecker off the pitch. i WILL NOT applaud him, chant his name, cheer if he manages to score, cause he is a c**t, of the highest order. i do agree hes not completly shit. hed do a jo for hull, wigan, or stoke, clubs of his standard.
So when he scores you don't cheer, therefore there are certain times when Arsenal score and you don't cheer, that sounds a bit strange coming from an Arsenal supporter doesn't it.

Is there anyone else that you don't like scoring, or maybe a method of goal you don't like? Are you against the deflected goal for example? :wink:

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Andrey's Tongue wrote:
DERRY GOONER wrote:cast ure minds back to the man city game a few weeks back. our great no.27 came on for the last 15 - 20 mins, and in that time, he managed to kick mid air when trying to kick the ball, get skinned by adebayer (yes adebayor) play city onside for 1 of their goals, play an easy pass to a city player. he was also at fault for the pen in belgium when he gave the ball away in midfield. thats just of the top of my head. also a professional footballer should be able to use his bad foot in some capacity, this clown can not use it AT ALL. had to laugh when i read eboue loves the club, of course he does. their giving him £40k a week (or thereabouts) when hes not worth £5k a week. i was at that wigan game, and believe me i was 1 of those who booed the fecker off the pitch. i WILL NOT applaud him, chant his name, cheer if he manages to score, cause he is a c**t, of the highest order. i do agree hes not completly shit. hed do a jo for hull, wigan, or stoke, clubs of his standard.
So when he scores you don't cheer, therefore there are certain times when Arsenal score and you don't cheer, that sounds a bit strange coming from an Arsenal supporter doesn't it.

Is there anyone else that you don't like scoring, or maybe a method of goal you don't like? Are you against the deflected goal for example? :wink:
You should support the team, 11 players proudly wearing our Shirt. By not cheering the one individual your not supporting the team.

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Boomer wrote: You should support the team, 11 players proudly wearing our Shirt. By not cheering the one individual your not supporting the team.
i agree. i do call him a bitch when he misses a pass, but even in my home where no one hears me (other then all my neighbours who are less than 10 miles around me) i will support every single player and i will celebrate an arsenal goal even it's a 90th minute diaby hand goal completely offside against 7-men hartlepool at the carling up being 9-0 down.

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yeh eboue a shit player. yeh a player who helped us to get to a champ league final that we should have won with 10 men but for a certain wanker in goals lettin 2 goals go past him from impossble angles. wenger moved eboue into midfield to try and save money and nearly ruined his carreer. if he sorts his head out he will replace the plodder sagna and become the great right back that he should have been before wenger fucked with his head.. all his problems started when he was moved out of his position

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I love Alex Song. :pixie2:


I love Emmanuel Eboue. :redcard2:


I love Abou Diaby. :awnker:

I love Manuel Almunia. :goalie:

I love Nicklas Bendtner. :mrgnu:


I love Denilson. :dance: I think they should all be given a HUGE pay rise immediately.


I love finishing fourth every year. :banghead:

18 points behind Man Utd. :banghead:

Oh shit - the men in the white coats are coming for m. . . . . . . . . . . .

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Jumpers For Goalposts wrote:I love Alex Song. :pixie2:


I love Emmanuel Eboue. :redcard2:


I love Abou Diaby. :awnker:

I love Manuel Almunia. :goalie:

I love Nicklas Bendtner. :mrgnu:


I love Denilson. :dance: I think they should all be given a HUGE pay rise immediately.


I love finishing fourth every year. :banghead:

18 points behind Man Utd. :banghead:

Oh shit - the men in the white coats are coming for m. . . . . . . . . . . .
:lol: :lol:

i must admit it is a very funny post

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wats funny about it. tell me

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harryo63 wrote:wats funny about it. tell me
poor boy, doesn't get the jokes :wink: :lol:

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Eboue has turned in many shit performances.

He has been an embarassment with his diving, pretending to be injured when he fucks up a simple pass, acting like a five year old spoilt brat, thinking he can con referees, and spitting the dummy out when he fails to do so.

He is a child. In a man's body.

He has improved recently. But he's still not good enough for Arsenal.

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Swale_Gooner1985 wrote:
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LeGinge (Northern Branch) wrote:Sorry Radford, I thought his performance on Tuesday was exceptional. Granted he isn't the best player in the world but he is a capable player and should be treated as such. I fully accept that you don't agree with that. But I sat there on Tuesday and felt he was one of our better players.
Radford says that on tuesday he dived again (when does he not?), passed to the oppo (something he shared with diaby) and lost the ball. if thats your evaluation of exceptional then what you call the performances of the other players who were clearly better (except diaby)
Eboue did have an excellent game on tuesday both defensively and going forward whether Soppy old Radford likes it or not! Its the truth!

Fabregas spend about the last 10 games before tuesday making poor passes and delivering bad set pieces, how many times did Soppy old Radford come on here and call him shit?
Radford will state this a player having a shit gae is different from a player being shit.

example cesc has shit games

eboue is shit

there is that clear

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