Almunia

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gas_face_gooner wrote:more comanding keeper would have given more of a shout for the second goal and positioned piss poor for free-kick!!

Couldnt have put it better myself 8) For the own goal he had to give vermaelen a shout and then come and meet the fcuking ball but instead the *word censored* casually moved sidewards and it could have been the chav striker who got the touch if tv5 didnt cos it wasnt reaching the clown :roll: I remember seaman rightly getting slated for his inability to deal with direct free kicks but almunia is just at another lower level altogether :oops: If the fool decides to stand that side to cover that part of the goals then he has to trust that the wall will cover the other side but of course he got caught doing neither......AGAIN :evil: How many times is he going to get embarrassed at free kicks ? Brum away 2 seasons ago, mancs in champs lge semi from 40 yds (my personal favourite :roll: ) and now again today....he is just not good enough and it is a shocking indictment of wenger that he is willing to have a keeper that celta vigo threw at us cos they had no money to clear their debt to us as our number 1 :roll: :oops: :banghead:

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On the telly I could clearly here Aluminium Al screaming repeatedly at the wall to move, right up until Dogbreath hit the ball, and they didn't. Maybe we are being a bit harsh on him for the free kick... personally I don't think he is top class but if your wall won't do what's asked of it you are half fucked anyway... :?

He was poor for both other goals too.

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PHP wrote:If you're going to win the league you need a world class keeper. Almunia will never be a world class keeper!
Hear Hear, said the same for years o other forums.

He is NOT a world class keeper, and whilst not really his fault today, its what you get when the C/B dont have a commending keeper behind them.

SIX/EIGHT points a season, thats what he costs us.............. :cry: :evil:

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Anybody think Flappy played well enough last night to oust awful Al for the pool game, I thought he had his best game to date last night, and Al's handling last Saturday was dreadful.
It's one of those ponderous questions, cos it's hard to justify having any real confidence in either of them.

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give Flapinski another go - :barscarf: :barscarf:

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Post by augie »

I have said for a long time now that fabinski would be my number 1 choice until/if we buy a proven top quality keeper. Yes sometimes he can be a bit excitable but at his age he has a possible upside for improvement where as that other clown..... :roll:

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If Flappy was our first choice keeper within a few weeks he would be getting slaughtered on here, you would be picking holes in everything he did, he is no better than Almunia and he is far more prone to error, which would stand out a mile if he became our first choice keeper and had all the focus on him.

I'll admit Almunia is not good enough to be playing for a team that has pretentions of winning silverware but he is like it or not, the best we have at the moment and due to our managers lack of desire to spend any significant money in defensive areas he is likely not going to be improved upon in the near future.

I can see Al has certain limitations in his game but they are the same limitations that all but the very best keepers have in todays game, so knowing we are highly unlikely to buy one of the very best there is not a lot we can do about that.

Even though i know we need a better keeper it's getting a bit ridiculous reading the constant attempts to look for a way to blame him for almost every goal scored against us, even though most of them are caused by bad defending, i'm actually surprised he wasn't in some way blamed for last nights goal, i mean he was watching the game, it must have been his fault :roll:

Lets agree we need a better keeper and by all means discuss Als obvious errors, but the weekly over the top demonization of him needs to stop, it's getting silly.

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BG, if we were to say that both keepers are right now at a similar level (both with weaknesses but different weaknesses) would it not make sense to you to play the young keeper who has a chance of improving with experience rather than a keeper who has been and will be only average his whole career ? I am not being harsh here but look through his cv before joining us and you will see the tales of an average keeper then and you admit that he is average now so why play a player that is going nowhere and possibly "kill" the progress of wengers young stars ? :wink:

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Because Flappy is not good enough either and for all Als faults i don't think Flappy is as good as him. I know thats hard for some to see because Al has been a focus for there disdain for quite a while now, so they have a highly negative view of him that is distorting their judgement when it comes to comparisons to our other keepers, who are even more of a liability than he is.
As i have said if either of our other keepers were focused on in the first team over a period of time to the degree Al is, you'd have the same utter disdain for them as well, regardless of their age and experience..

It's a new keeper we need, a top notch one, and until the manager realises how important it is to have a top keeper and pays the money for one, we will have to make do with the likes of Almunia because he is the best that we have, like or not..

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Post by Magic Hat »

I agree with Bergkamp-Genius in that if given a run, Fabianski will get slaughtered by people here for every goal conceded.

I would still pick Fabianski over Almunia and hopefully after 2 games in 2 weeks, Fabianski won't be coming into a big game from the cold this time round. I prefer keepers to come for crosses and sweep up behind the defence even if this leaves them prone to errors, Fabianski is more willing at doing it then Almunia is. When in the right frame of mind, which he seems to be right now, Fabianski is a very good shot stopper and a six months of games will get him a lot of experience for the future even if he proves to be not ready yet

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I used to like Almunia last season, but this season he has been making too many mistakes

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Bergkamp-Genius wrote:If Flappy was our first choice keeper within a few weeks he would be getting slaughtered on here, you would be picking holes in everything he did, he is no better than Almunia and he is far more prone to error, which would stand out a mile if he became our first choice keeper and had all the focus on him.

I'll admit Almunia is not good enough to be playing for a team that has pretentions of winning silverware but he is like it or not, the best we have at the moment and due to our managers lack of desire to spend any significant money in defensive areas he is likely not going to be improved upon in the near future.

I can see Al has certain limitations in his game but they are the same limitations that all but the very best keepers have in todays game, so knowing we are highly unlikely to buy one of the very best there is not a lot we can do about that.

Even though i know we need a better keeper it's getting a bit ridiculous reading the constant attempts to look for a way to blame him for almost every goal scored against us, even though most of them are caused by bad defending, i'm actually surprised he wasn't in some way blamed for last nights goal, i mean he was watching the game, it must have been his fault :roll:

Lets agree we need a better keeper and by all means discuss Als obvious errors, but the weekly over the top demonization of him needs to stop, it's getting silly.
You might want to pull your neck in there a bit, mate - it is a forum. :? Y'know? Where people go to express opinions, debate back and forth? Or should people now only debate what you deem it proper to debate? If someone wants to come on here and have a pop at any player they are welcome. Who is to say they are not allowed? I think that's the official forum you are thinking of...

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DB10GOONER wrote:
Bergkamp-Genius wrote:If Flappy was our first choice keeper within a few weeks he would be getting slaughtered on here, you would be picking holes in everything he did, he is no better than Almunia and he is far more prone to error, which would stand out a mile if he became our first choice keeper and had all the focus on him.

I'll admit Almunia is not good enough to be playing for a team that has pretentions of winning silverware but he is like it or not, the best we have at the moment and due to our managers lack of desire to spend any significant money in defensive areas he is likely not going to be improved upon in the near future.

I can see Al has certain limitations in his game but they are the same limitations that all but the very best keepers have in todays game, so knowing we are highly unlikely to buy one of the very best there is not a lot we can do about that.

Even though i know we need a better keeper it's getting a bit ridiculous reading the constant attempts to look for a way to blame him for almost every goal scored against us, even though most of them are caused by bad defending, i'm actually surprised he wasn't in some way blamed for last nights goal, i mean he was watching the game, it must have been his fault :roll:

Lets agree we need a better keeper and by all means discuss Als obvious errors, but the weekly over the top demonization of him needs to stop, it's getting silly.
You might want to pull your neck in there a bit, mate - it is a forum. :? Y'know? Where people go to express opinions, debate back and forth? Or should people now only debate what you deem it proper to debate? If someone wants to come on here and have a pop at any player they are welcome. Who is to say they are not allowed? I think that's the official forum you are thinking of...
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It's not aggressive or abusive so you don't need to get so pedantic about it just because you personally don't want to hear it..

If i want to suggest some are going over the top regarding Als faults, i will... if others want to disagree with me then they are welcome to do so and if they want to suggest i am going over the top with some of my opinions they are also welcome to suggest so and i will happily discuss it with them...

You have name dropped the official forum so many times now i think you are beginning to think you are on there.. judging by how petty your getting..

Maybe you should take a bit of your own advice and ''pull your neck in''

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