Arsenal vs Manchester City (CC)

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:47 pm

SteveO 35 wrote:
franksav63 wrote:
selsdon wrote:What May was Wenger talking about when he said we should judge him?
Definitely next year's one, but hasn't he already moved this so called 'judgement day/time' several times already..
When we're out of everything, we'll go on some sort of 10 - 15 game unbeaten run against no-hopers

Just looking at the fixtures - between 27 Jan and 10 Feb, we have Villa (a), United (h), Chelsea (a), Liverpool (h). That will be the period when we really are out of the league - more than 20 points behind.

But straight after it our run might be

FA Cup 5th round - could be at home to any old shite
Champions League Last 16 - some proper shite in 2nd place in the Groups so we could breeze this
Sunderland
Stoke
Burnley
Champs League 2nd leg
Hull
West Ham
Birmingham
Champs Lge QF (might beat anyone who isn't English)
Wolves
Champs Lge QF2
Spurs (no matter how shit we are we don't lose to them)
Wigan

So I'm prepared for an over-hyped 14 game unbeaten run before inevitable collapse against Man City, and CL semi

After which Wenger will claim that the unbeaten run proves he is right to give this team another chance

Yawn, yawn, yawn. Which year is it - could be anywhere between 2006 and 2009

Yes, agreed, but we'd have to get past the bubble blowing *word censored* first....

augie · Post by **augie** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:48 pm

Steve O I have no qualms about being critical of some of my favoured players when the evidence is there for all to see. However I still believe 100% that given the same amount of chances and starts in the first team as diaby has had then ramsey would be fcuking miles ahead of that long plank as a footballer

SteveO 35 · Post by **SteveO 35** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:52 pm

augie wrote:Steve O I have no qualms about being critical of some of my favoured players when the evidence is there for all to see. However I still believe 100% that given the same amount of chances and starts in the first team as diaby has had then ramsey would be fcuking miles ahead of that long plank as a footballer

Good for you mate. Likewise I'll give praise to those who I don't particularly like. For example Vela - a showboater in the Quincy mould - but I thought put in a shift tonight and could not have done any better.

But with Ramsey - he's appeared in 38 games for us now and apart from very, very limited glimpses, I don't get him at all. By that stage I'd already seen enough in Diaby to know he was far better (before some wanker from Sunderland bust his leg)

harryo63 · Post by **harryo63** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:20 pm

ramon wrote:
Perryashburtongroves wrote:Another trophy gone. Show some respect to the fans that are paying your wages, Wenger.
hey if you are so concerned about the wages then do yourself a favor and dont bother going to the games - simple.

we lost yes and its obvious this team needs a kick up the arse - but remember the night is darkest before the dawn!

wat the fuck are u on about

RaM · Post by **RaM** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:21 pm

If I can say one thing for the youngsters (who really shouldn't have to put up with what they did tonight, its cruel, like lambs to the slaughter) they at least had more fight than our first team. Silvestre was the most placid man on the pitch tonight, and he is supposed to be their leader. What I would give for a player like Adams out there in his place - even with the same team around him, Adams would get a bit of fire in the blood of the youngsters.

Still, was good to see a bit of mongrel from the younger blokes.

P.S - How sad was it to see Bellamy getting into fights with Merida and Wilshere? Does it make him feel good to shout down guys almost half his age?

harryo63 · Post by **harryo63** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:25 pm

ramon wrote:beat stoke, get back to winning ways, play all young team for last champions league game, beat liverpool following weak, dampen their chances, then beat burnley hull aston villa portsmouth, then in january buy a striker

then wake up

OneBardGooner · Post by **OneBardGooner** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:33 pm

RaM wrote:If I can say one thing for the youngsters (who really shouldn't have to put up with what they did tonight, its cruel, like lambs to the slaughter) they at least had more fight than our first team. Silvestre was the most placid man on the pitch tonight, and he is supposed to be their leader. What I would give for a player like Adams out there in his place - even with the same team around him, Adams would get a bit of fire in the blood of the youngsters.

Still, was good to see a bit of mongrel from the younger blokes.

P.S - How sad was it to see Bellamy getting into fights with Merida and Wilshere? Does it make him feel good to shout down guys almost half his age?

Bellamy is a Lowlifescuzzball - he'll get his sooner or later...the sooner the better admittedly......he's SCUM.

Swale_Gooner1985 · Post by **Swale_Gooner1985** » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:45 pm

Yes i know i said i wasnt posting but sod it!

I do feel really dissapointed tonight, i know we played a very strong City team with our second string side but i did hold a hope we would have a good go. To be fair we did have a go in spells but ultimately looked second best to everything in the game.

When the second goal flew in it really wound me up as that was the time it seemed we might be about to kick on properly and get back into it, that was a big blow and finished the game!

Thought Rosicky was very poor, was delighted he started as thought he could provide a bit of experience and make something happen but he was very poor, second half especially!

Silvestre did really well first half but was complete garbage second half, he isnt good enough!

Song was one of the better players, was surprised he started but no other choice really, shame he misses out on saturday, but he could miss a bigger game so its not too bad.

Thought Troare was completely beaten by SWP but had no real support infront of him, Ramsey and Merida were dreadful, which was a shame as those two have impressed me when they have played this season.

Eboue was fine.

Vela was good, first half especially, some really nice moments from him, Eastmond for me looked a bit out of his depth, gave the ball away far too often, shame as he looked the part against Liverpool!

anyway, 3 defeats is very dissapointing but im keeping the faith for saturday, hoping we can bounce back from this bad patch!

marcengels · Post by **marcengels** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:56 am

I don't know where to begin.

All I can see is that AW has created a group of players much the same as the first team. Very little strength, no-one, but no-one, wants to get in the face of the opposition or ref. And where was the pressure, or penetration, or desire...anything. Lightweight nothingness...just like the first team when tested. where are the great defensive players coming through?

Congratulations AW, you have destroyed the legacy you were handed.

mrgnu1958 · Post by **mrgnu1958** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:02 am

Ive been working and ive just got home.
Have i missed anything tonight?

CPHANMER · Post by **CPHANMER** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:04 am

Thursday's sun is saying we are making a Â£4m bid for Barnet's 16yr old Mark Potential and we are also in the running for Carlisle's 14yrd whizzkid Danny Oneforthefuture

northbankbren · Post by **northbankbren** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:19 am

I was dissapointed with the result tonight, but certain for the level the team we had out were up against a few can be fairly proud.

Eastmond never let Ireland(the granny killer) or Barry really overwhelm him. He never had any command but can be proud.

Cela why do you run so much and always go wide left.....get in the box for the cross lad....is this him or wengers tactics? Plenty or effort but seems to avoid runs into the box....good effort tho.

Traore going forward good. Against Shaun Phillips is always a hard time to deffend against and done pretty well for periods.

Wilshere had a quiet one but was man marked so always gunna be hard against someone like bridge at a young age.

The ex-manc was ok too.

The difference in class showed through and that isnt the players fault. Im an optimist but wenger needs a change in league cup policy.

Magic Hat · Post by **Magic Hat** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:14 am

Song was one of the better players, was surprised he started but no other choice really, shame he misses out on saturday, but he could miss a bigger game so its not too bad.

Song was guilty for two of the goals and yet was one of the better players?

franksav63 · Post by **franksav63** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:22 am

Swale_Gooner1985 wrote:Yes i know i said i wasnt posting but sod it!

I do feel really dissapointed tonight, i know we played a very strong City team with our second string side but i did hold a hope we would have a good go. To be fair we did have a go in spells but ultimately looked second best to everything in the game.

When the second goal flew in it really wound me up as that was the time it seemed we might be about to kick on properly and get back into it, that was a big blow and finished the game!

Thought Rosicky was very poor, was delighted he started as thought he could provide a bit of experience and make something happen but he was very poor, second half especially!

Silvestre did really well first half but was complete garbage second half, he isnt good enough!

Song was one of the better players, was surprised he started but no other choice really, shame he misses out on saturday, but he could miss a bigger game so its not too bad.

Thought Troare was completely beaten by SWP but had no real support infront of him, Ramsey and Merida were dreadful, which was a shame as those two have impressed me when they have played this season.

Eboue was fine.

Vela was good, first half especially, some really nice moments from him, Eastmond for me looked a bit out of his depth, gave the ball away far too often, shame as he looked the part against Liverpool!

anyway, 3 defeats is very dissapointing but im keeping the faith for saturday, hoping we can bounce back from this bad patch!

Agree with this

apart from Song and Eboue.

Eboue was disinterested, and appeared that he couldn't give a flying fuck about playing last night.

OneBardGooner · Post by **OneBardGooner** » Thu Dec 03, 2009 7:43 am

franksav63 wrote:
Swale_Gooner1985 wrote:

Agree with this apart from Song and Eboue.

Eboue was disinterested, and appeared that he couldn't give a flying fuck about playing last night.

eboue was just afraid of having to play against his bum buddy greedywhore - both C**NTS!