Wenger shaking hands!?!?

[goonersid]

Wenger has become am embarassment to himself and the club. We can't criticise the like of Chavski for having no class, when our own manager is behaving like a petulant schoolboy.
We are seeing the signs of a desparate man who is beginning to realise the game is up!
I believe now more than ever that we will be shot of him by xmas or early january, what a wonderful xmas pressie thet would be and a great way to start the new year.

Your having a laugh? Who do you want as manager then?

Hughes abused him all game, ive heard a rumour that Hughes laughed when the city fans sung THE song that the United fans sung last time we were up there - so, if that was true, should Wenger shake his hand? Would you shake the hand of someone like that? Its not sportmanship, its personal abuse.

I think walking away its more of a manly thing to do than shake hands with an idiot like that., Wenger is honest as the day is long and not a hypocrite - a great man regardless of what you think of him as manager.

As regards to comments "he doesnt care about the fans" What bollocks, he has given us fans memorys no other manager has, yes we all want more, but comments like that are comments of a very fickle supporter.

As for who do I want as manager I've given numerous suggestions in the past, and quite frankly now, I would take just about anybody in order to see the back of Wenger.
As for the Hughes laughing at the chants, you have no evidence whatsoever to support that statement. I heard a rumour Wenger slipped his hand down shaun wright philips underpants, utter bollocks of course, but just as substantiated as your statement.
The fact is Wenger is one of the sorest losers in the Premiership, his comments after the Chavs game being a perfect example. No manager likes losing, however Wenger needs to accept defeat with the same grace he accepts victory, if not only because he is going to have to get used to the former.

WHAT DO I HAVE TO DO TO SEE THE BACK OF YOU?
I KNOW PEOPLE CAN HAVE DIFFERING OPINIONS BUT YOU SERIOUSLY DO MY F*CKING HEAD IN,ARE YOU SURE YOU'RE EVEN A GOONER ALL YOU EVER DO IS BITCH AND MOAN ABOUT EVERYTHING TO DO WITH ARSENAL.HATE WENGER HATE THE WHOLE SQUAD HATE EVERYTHING ABOUT US THEN WHY DONT U F*CK OFF DOWN THE ROAD TO THE OTHER SHITE COZ I DONT WANNA SIT NEXT TO YOU.
I DIDNT GET BACK TILL HALF 2 THIS MORNING AND YEAH I WAS PISSED OFF BUT GET SOME F*UCKING PERSPECTIVE WHO ELSE IS AVAILABLE BETTER THAN WENGER OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
YOU'RE A GRADE A KNOB

Merse, you truly are a master of sizzling sarcasm and rapid repartee.
If you want to see the back of me then why dont you, (to use your own words) "f*ck off" to the official site. Where you and all other Wenger adoring gooners can mutually mentally masturbate themselves.
I must however commend you for travelling to the Citeh game and not getting home until 2am.

[Number 5]

This just in from Gary Megson

"In my view you can do whatever you want, say whatever you like during the game, but after the game you should shake hands, even if you don't particularly mean it.

How does a guy like that manage to get his feet into his shoes every morning? I'm going to have to check he is not walking around bare footed.

Every day, more and more I'm just becoming further and further disillusioned by the game I've loved since I was 5 years old. I really fucking despair at times.

[franksav63]

This just in from Gary Megson

"In my view you can do whatever you want, say whatever you like during the game, but after the game you should shake hands, even if you don't particularly mean it.

How does a guy like that manage to get his feet into his shoes every morning? I'm going to have to check he is not walking around bare footed.

Every day, more and more I'm just becoming further and further disillusioned by the game I've loved since I was 5 years old. I really fucking despair at times.

He's ginger No. 5, he manages...

[Vince]

If Hughes really called Wenger 'f***ing w***er', I don't know why everybody blame Wenger and not Hughes. He can go everywhere he wants on the pitch, insult people, etc .. and the referee didn't say a word about it. And then, he said he doesn't understand why Wenger didn't shake his hand?

Wenger didn't reply to his insult, he just ignored him. But when you look at the press, we are the bad loosers

[franksav63]

If Hughes really called Wenger 'f***ing w***er', I don't know why everybody blame Wenger and not Hughes. He can go everywhere he wants on the pitch, insult people, etc .. and the referee didn't say a word about it. And then, he said he doesn't understand why Wenger didn't shake his hand?

Wenger didn't reply to his insult, he just ignored him. But when you look at the press, we are the bad loosers

The thing is Vince, and everyone has said this, Hughes is a *word censored*, that's a fact. He was obviously a right arsehole during this game, and he's easily deflected what he did onto Wenger, and now everyone forgets what he did, and only remembers what Wenger didn't do. (if that makes sense)

[DB10GOONER]

If Hughes really called Wenger 'f***ing w***er', I don't know why everybody blame Wenger and not Hughes. He can go everywhere he wants on the pitch, insult people, etc .. and the referee didn't say a word about it. And then, he said he doesn't understand why Wenger didn't shake his hand?

Wenger didn't reply to his insult, he just ignored him. But when you look at the press, we are the bad loosers

The thing is Vince, and everyone has said this, Hughes is a c**t, that's a fact. He was obviously a right arsehole during this game, and he's easily deflected what he did onto Wenger, and now everyone forgets what he did, and only remembers what Wenger didn't do. (if that makes sense)

Perfect sense, Frank. If he had shaken the horrible crunts hand the press couldn't go with the sore loser line. Now they can.

[Henry Norris 1913]

I'm glad wenger didn't shake the *word censored* hand. Hughes was acting like an immature prick all through the match, clapping adebayor for diving and having a go at wenger for everything. He's a disgrace.

The media have blown it out of proportion again and wenger is always going to get the stick for it. I've had enough of the people who want wenger out just becuase he fields a weakened team for carling cup matches. I'd rather they support another team. Soon the plastics will leave and support £helski and the real fans will be left, backing him through the season.

[Vince]

by the way, did you see this article?

Mark Hughes's hypocrisy heightens farce of a very English outrage
Posted by Amy Lawrence Thursday 3 December 2009 15.29 GMT



Being a bad loser is nothing to be proud of, but nor is being a hypocrite. It was bizarre to see Mark Hughes taking the moral high ground as he took umbrage to the post-match handshake snub delivered by Arsène Wenger, when the Manchester City manager had hardly been a paragon of courtesy during the game itself.

Let's rewind to an incident in the first half – the root cause of the handshake slight. The ball went out of play in front of the away dugout when the game was scoreless and devoid of any particular tension. Hughes sauntered into the Arsenal technical area, patrolled right in front of Wenger, kicked the ball, and strode back out of enemy territory as if he was auditioning for a John Wayne movie. When Wenger expressed his disapproval of a gesture that was plainly designed to be provocative, Hughes responded with the kind of posturing normally seen by someone who has had a little too much ale and is looking for a late night fight. It was written all over his face: "Oi, Wenger, outside!"

Hughes said afterwards that Wenger "should have been more gracious". It was almost brilliant in its audacity. Naturally, the English media lapped it up, and Wenger woke up to another of the handshake storms that seem to exist in a strange microclimate over the UK. Rafael Benítez and José Mourinho have experienced them before, as well as Wenger on previous occasions. Do these foreign managers not realise that disrespect for the handshake is a heinous sin punishable by 20 lashes in the great British heartland of fair play?

Well, actually, they don't, and with perfectly good reason. A highly scientific phone around some fellow football reporters in Europe's major leagues gave a unanimous verdict. The handshake is not an institution elsewhere. While it is not abnormal for opposing coaches to shake hands, it is not a cause célèbre if they don't. "It is not an issue," said the man from Spain, who pointed out that the real place to go for any potential flashpoints was the tribune of honour, where the two club presidents are forced to sit next to one another through gritted teeth for the entire game and produce a Hollywood-style embrace at the end. "You can do what you want, nobody cares," said the man from Italy. "It is not a formal obligation and not a big story," said the man from France. "It's a habit but if somebody forgets or runs off to the dressing room they can do it later," said the man from Germany.

The Bundesliga offers a platform to do it later – a perfect stage for the post-match handshake, in fact. After every German league game, both coaches attend the press conference together, side by side. What a brilliant idea. Just imagine Sir Alex Ferguson and Benítez sharing a microphone after a Merseyside derby, or Wenger perched next to Sam Allardyce. Genius.

In all seriousness, it is an idea with merit. Coaches would surely require a little more restraint, or as Hughes would have it, graciousness, were they to offer their post-match assessments in tandem. Having a few minutes to decompress in their own dressing rooms, and possibly the chance to consult some video replays before commenting on controversial issues, should lead to a little more sanity. And if it makes everybody happy, it might even consign the occasional handshake snub to history too. Even Wenger might have accepted Hughes's offering after a cooling-off period. And if not, it would make for a superb Punch and Judy show.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... sh-outrage

[DB10GOONER]

by the way, did you see this article?

Mark Hughes's hypocrisy heightens farce of a very English outrage
Posted by Amy Lawrence Thursday 3 December 2009 15.29 GMT



Being a bad loser is nothing to be proud of, but nor is being a hypocrite. It was bizarre to see Mark Hughes taking the moral high ground as he took umbrage to the post-match handshake snub delivered by Arsène Wenger, when the Manchester City manager had hardly been a paragon of courtesy during the game itself.

Let's rewind to an incident in the first half – the root cause of the handshake slight. The ball went out of play in front of the away dugout when the game was scoreless and devoid of any particular tension. Hughes sauntered into the Arsenal technical area, patrolled right in front of Wenger, kicked the ball, and strode back out of enemy territory as if he was auditioning for a John Wayne movie. When Wenger expressed his disapproval of a gesture that was plainly designed to be provocative, Hughes responded with the kind of posturing normally seen by someone who has had a little too much ale and is looking for a late night fight. It was written all over his face: "Oi, Wenger, outside!"

Hughes said afterwards that Wenger "should have been more gracious". It was almost brilliant in its audacity. Naturally, the English media lapped it up, and Wenger woke up to another of the handshake storms that seem to exist in a strange microclimate over the UK. Rafael Benítez and José Mourinho have experienced them before, as well as Wenger on previous occasions. Do these foreign managers not realise that disrespect for the handshake is a heinous sin punishable by 20 lashes in the great British heartland of fair play?

Well, actually, they don't, and with perfectly good reason. A highly scientific phone around some fellow football reporters in Europe's major leagues gave a unanimous verdict. The handshake is not an institution elsewhere. While it is not abnormal for opposing coaches to shake hands, it is not a cause célèbre if they don't. "It is not an issue," said the man from Spain, who pointed out that the real place to go for any potential flashpoints was the tribune of honour, where the two club presidents are forced to sit next to one another through gritted teeth for the entire game and produce a Hollywood-style embrace at the end. "You can do what you want, nobody cares," said the man from Italy. "It is not a formal obligation and not a big story," said the man from France. "It's a habit but if somebody forgets or runs off to the dressing room they can do it later," said the man from Germany.

The Bundesliga offers a platform to do it later – a perfect stage for the post-match handshake, in fact. After every German league game, both coaches attend the press conference together, side by side. What a brilliant idea. Just imagine Sir Alex Ferguson and Benítez sharing a microphone after a Merseyside derby, or Wenger perched next to Sam Allardyce. Genius.

In all seriousness, it is an idea with merit. Coaches would surely require a little more restraint, or as Hughes would have it, graciousness, were they to offer their post-match assessments in tandem. Having a few minutes to decompress in their own dressing rooms, and possibly the chance to consult some video replays before commenting on controversial issues, should lead to a little more sanity. And if it makes everybody happy, it might even consign the occasional handshake snub to history too. Even Wenger might have accepted Hughes's offering after a cooling-off period. And if not, it would make for a superb Punch and Judy show.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog ... sh-outrage

Love old Amy but she don't half spout some shite sometimes! Spuddy - is she related to you?

[blifil]

Hughes has behaved like a prick. He's hated at Citeh and knows his days are numbered so is compensating by hamming it up and playing to the crowd. Arsene has highlighted his in his own way by not shaking hands and because its easy, the press jump on him rather than thinking before opening their gobs. Wenger, the prof, changed the English game, done so much good here, why wouldn't he shake Sp***ky's hand. Something must have happened between them...

Wenger puts up with a lot at away grounds - he's never complained about the 'pedo' taunts. Understandably he's tense now as he sees his dream crumble before him, but he's sharing the sideline with a guy who's living on borrowed time and this is the biggest chance he'll ever get, someone who happened to be in the right place at the right time, rather than getting there by merit and can't hide that fact hat he knows that when he leaves Citeh its downhill for him after that, back to life among the cloggers and so he behaves like an immature baboon desperate to win over players and fans.

Bah!

And there was a fat steward in the upper tier who was behaving like Hughes, trying to kick out who he could for standing up when all the Citeh fans to our right were standing. Manchester is full of shit, full of shit, full of shit....

[DB10GOONER]

Hughes has behaved like a prick. He's hated at Citeh and knows his days are numbered so is compensating by hamming it up and playing to the crowd. Arsene has highlighted his in his own way by not shaking hands and because its easy, the press jump on him rather than thinking before opening their gobs. Wenger, the prof, changed the English game, done so much good here, why wouldn't he shake Sp***ky's hand. Something must have happened between them...

Wenger puts up with a lot at away grounds - he's never complained about the 'pedo' taunts. Understandably he's tense now as he sees his dream crumble before him, but he's sharing the sideline with a guy who's living on borrowed time and this is the biggest chance he'll ever get, someone who happened to be in the right place at the right time, rather than getting there by merit and can't hide that fact hat he knows that when he leaves Citeh its downhill for him after that, back to life among the cloggers and so he behaves like an immature baboon desperate to win over players and fans.

Bah!

And there was a fat steward in the upper tier who was behaving like Hughes, trying to kick out who he could for standing up when all the Citeh fans to our right were standing. Manchester is full of shit, full of shit, full of shit....

It is indeed a town that is overflowing with shit and shitbags...

[augie]

As has been said many times already, if wenger was pissed at hughes cuntish behaviour then he should have said so and defended his actions instead of looking like a spoilt kid now. I think he might not have received any extra sympathy for his stance but he might not be on the end of nationwide condemnation

By the way jtvercetti27 nobody is claiming that wenger should be sacked cos of wed night - what we have said is that not putting more experience on the bench is another fcuk up in a growing list of fcuk ups. I think most fans understand and accept now that wenger see's this competition as a blloding ground for his kids and personally I agree with it

[LeftfootlegendGooner]

Tony Gayle actually defended Wenger on SSN this morning

He said that hughes was obviously giving wenger a load of abuse during the game and that if he had done that to him he wouldn't have shaken his hand either.

I am divided by this, i played footie at a good and very competitive level and had been known to walk past referees and players and not shake their hands because i was a winner and couldn't hide my utter dismay at incompetence and wrong decsions etc. After the red mist had ascended i would go up to the ref or player in the clubhouse and shake their hand.

Equally i have offered my hand to other players and they have turned away, that never bothered me either because i understand what it is to be wound up for 90 minutes.

When playing against the same players either later in the season or the following season we shook hands and had a pint together, its sport and winners are winners and i never understood a good loser (mainly because they are happy to be second best and don't feel the same way as i did when losing).

Wenger is a bad loser and so he fekin should be cos it means he really does care, its all a storm in a tea cup and as usual overhyped but i don't think any worse of wenger, in fact my admiration for him has risen because he wouldn't show undeserved respect to a thug.

That doesn't mean i am happy with the season cos i am having deja fucking vue. Its like ground hog day, I have been stuck in a timewarp for 4 years now and i really need to get out of it

[franksav63]

Tony Gayle actually defended Wenger on SSN this morning

He said that hughes was obviously giving wenger a load of abuse during the game and that if he had done that to him he wouldn't have shaken his hand either.

I am divided by this, i played footie at a good and very competitive level and had been known to walk past referees and players and not shake their hands because i was a winner and couldn't hide my utter dismay at incompetence and wrong decsions etc. After the red mist had ascended i would go up to the ref or player in the clubhouse and shake their hand.

Equally i have offered my hand to other players and they have turned away, that never bothered me either because i understand what it is to be wound up for 90 minutes.

When playing against the same players either later in the season or the following season we shook hands and had a pint together, its sport and winners are winners and i never understood a good loser (mainly because they are happy to be second best and don't feel the same way as i did when losing).

Wenger is a bad loser and so he fekin should be cos it means he really does care, its all a storm in a tea cup and as usual overhyped but i don't think any worse of wenger, in fact my admiration for him has risen because he wouldn't show undeserved respect to a thug.

That doesn't mean i am happy with the season cos i am having deja fucking vue. Its like ground hog day, I have been stuck in a timewarp for 4 years now and i really need to get out of it

That's a great post, well done mate..

[ambarron]

As has been said many times already, if wenger was pissed at hughes cuntish behaviour then he should have said so and defended his actions instead of looking like a spoilt kid now. I think he might not have received any extra sympathy for his stance but he might not be on the end of nationwide condemnation

I agree, I would prefer he had confronted Hughes and explained his actions rather than skulking of like a little kid!!