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highburyJD wrote:progress
football based
and believe any decision rests 100% with diamond danny (or with whatever 'ruler' one demonstr8s against)
I disagree
best way2 explain y is2 quote david hume:
"as force is always on the side of the governed, the governors have nothing to support them but opinion. It is, therefore, on opinion only that government is founded and this maxim extends to the most despotic and most military governments as well as to the most free and most popular"
This post reinforces my original view that this particular campaign against Usmanuv is political in it's inception. So I will , no doubt along with many other people, give it swerve. Have you ever sold Socialist Worker Party newspapers outside Highbury & Islington underground station?

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'this post'?!!?!?
you are truly pathetic

first u allege I have some personal agenda with usmanov
(and bizarrely claimed some connection between u and the takeover had been made)
I clearly responded2that:
highburyJD wrote:'don't like'...? I have no opinion on usmanov's personality
(I've heard hitler was very nice 2kids and animals)
I'm simply against any individual, especially an 'investor', owning my club
if fiszman sells evey1 blames fiszman
what bizarre delusions of grandeur enable you 2suggest any1 would make a personal connection 2u??
you have vociferously argued 4inertia
u hav st8d u believe people, in general and in this case, should sit back - accept their lot in live
allow the big man to take the big decision
be irelavnt

u have argued that people should stay out of politics and that demonstrations are pointless
I rebuttd that point - AFTER explaining my problem with 'investors' for the umpteenth time

and you take this st8ment as a political basis fr anti-usmanisis

listen you pathetic loon
WE LOVE ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB
WE ARE AGAINST INVESTORS
BECAUSE AN INVESTOR, BY HIS VERY NATURE, WANTS TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE CLUB
is that truly cnceptually beyond you??
it can't be
you seem in posession of at least the basic motor skills 2type

it leaves only one option
you are a common or garden troll
with no agenda beyond provocation

I can't be bothered rising 2it anymore
ciao

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highburyJD wrote:'this post'?!!?!?
you are truly pathetic

first u allege I have some personal agenda with usmanov
(and bizarrely claimed some connection between u and the takeover had been made)
I clearly responded2that:
highburyJD wrote:'don't like'...? I have no opinion on usmanov's personality
(I've heard hitler was very nice 2kids and animals)
I'm simply against any individual, especially an 'investor', owning my club
if fiszman sells evey1 blames fiszman
what bizarre delusions of grandeur enable you 2suggest any1 would make a personal connection 2u??
you have vociferously argued 4inertia
u hav st8d u believe people, in general and in this case, should sit back - accept their lot in live
allow the big man to take the big decision
be irelavnt

u have argued that people should stay out of politics and that demonstrations are pointless
I rebuttd that point - AFTER explaining my problem with 'investors' for the umpteenth time

and you take this st8ment as a political basis fr anti-usmanisis

listen you pathetic loon
WE LOVE ARSENAL FOOTBALL CLUB
WE ARE AGAINST INVESTORS
BECAUSE AN INVESTOR, BY HIS VERY NATURE, WANTS TO TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE CLUB
is that truly cnceptually beyond you??
it can't be
you seem in posession of at least the basic motor skills 2type

it leaves only one option
you are a common or garden troll
with no agenda beyond provocation

I can't be bothered rising 2it anymore
ciao
Yaaaaaaaawn... ...you are against investors? Right, so it's not just Usmanuv personally then??
All investors take something from the club , and if it's regulated , and run properly, then I see nothing wrong with that , they could lose their millions just as easily as they can make them.
Even Abramovich has demanded of Kenyon that Chelsea have to start making money.
No one is going to put millions of their own cash into a football club indefinitely - without getting some return. Danny is already quids in after selling shares to Stan - which he bought from Dein!
A demo against him then next up I presume?
But at least you have clarified your position on Usmanov.
Kroneke last week though said that he is looking to make money on his investment . Are you going to have a demo' against him next week then? Blimey! it will be like the October revolution in Red Square at the stadium soon!

Ps. I suggest that you stop claiming the moral right to speak for all supporters of AFC, you represent yourself, and other supporters have a right to their own views. You support the club by choice, you don't own it. you fool
I have no objection to you having your views, but draw the line at your claims to speak for all supporters - and your arrogant dismissal of any views that do not tally with your own ill thought out ones.

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over an over again u make the same bizarre illogical accusation
that people who are campaigning arrogantly claim2 speak for everyone

if we spoke 4everyone - there would be no need 2campaign

'do you think I'd speak for you? I don't even know your language'

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highburyJD wrote:over an over again u make the same bizarre illogical accusation
that people who are campaigning arrogantly claim2 speak for everyone

if we spoke 4everyone - there would be no need 2campaign

'do you think I'd speak for you? I don't even know your language'
My language is English, I suggest that try learning it. Your rants are couched in terms that suggest that you do speak for everyone, and that anyone who takes a less than enthusiastic view of your campaign is either mental or not a real Arsenal supporter. At least I now understand that your campaign is more broadly aimed at targets other than old Usmanuv. Which is what I suspected to be the case anyway. Sorry if it annoys you that I find it boring and your muddled thinking laughable, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. Have you contacted tax-exile Dan yet to ask him if he's donating the money he made on the clubs shares that he sold to Stan to charity?

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Redbull wrote:
highburyJD wrote:over an over again u make the same bizarre illogical accusation
that people who are campaigning arrogantly claim2 speak for everyone

if we spoke 4everyone - there would be no need 2campaign

'do you think I'd speak for you? I don't even know your language'
My language is English, I suggest that you try learning it. Your rants are couched in terms that suggest that you do speak for everyone, and that anyone who takes a less than enthusiastic view of your campaign is either mental or not a real Arsenal supporter. At least I now understand that your campaign is more broadly aimed at targets other than old Usmanuv. Which is what I suspected to be the case anyway. Sorry if it annoys you that I find it boring and your muddled thinking laughable, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. Have you contacted tax-exile Dan yet to ask him if he's donating the money he made on the clubs shares that he sold to Stan to charity?

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I'm a member of arsenal trust and aisa
both of whom are in direct dialogue about share ownership patterns with the board in general

the language things an 80's quote
yr prob not as old a bastard as me

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So I will , no doubt along with many other people, give it swerve.
Really, don't see much of a pro-Usmanov campaign building anywhere, you must have a lot of imaginary friends

Have you ever sold Socialist Worker Party newspapers outside Highbury & Islington underground station?
Have you ever sold Razzle from a backstreet shop in Soho, you sound a right wanker.


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Ha ha, thanks for making me burst out laughing, Cus!

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Cus Geezer wrote:
So I will , no doubt along with many other people, give it swerve.
Really, don't see much of a pro-Usmanov campaign building anywhere, you must have a lot of imaginary friends



Have you ever sold Razzle from a backstreet shop in Soho, you sound a right wanker.

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Who said I was pro-Usmanuv? The only imagination at work here, or lack of it rather , is yours.

You obviously though are acquainted with backstreet bookshops in Soho - I bet you are really a dirty old geezer.

Just for the record though geezer I have stated that I am in favour of the present board staying in charge, but that I believe that the anti-Usmanuv campaign is flawed ,and doomed to failure.

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You obviously though are acquainted with backstreet bookshops in Soho - I bet you are really a dirty old geezer.

Just for the record though geezer I have stated that I am in favour of the present board staying in charge, but that I believe that the anti-Usmanuv campaign is flawed ,and doomed to failure.

well I can only continue the dirty old geezer methaphor in reply to that

If say Mike Tyson wanted to force say Kylie Minogue into unconsentual sex, her attempts to fight him off would be doomed to failure so would there be any point in her attempting to do so? Well yes because if there was no attempt he could just turn around and say that 'the slag wanted it that way all along'.

I want Usmanov to know that he is about as popular as a dogs fart at a perfume counter and that he and everyone else in the world knows he is not doing this with my blessing.

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Cus Geezer wrote:
You obviously though are acquainted with backstreet bookshops in Soho - I bet you are really a dirty old geezer.

Just for the record though geezer I have stated that I am in favour of the present board staying in charge, but that I believe that the anti-Usmanuv campaign is flawed ,and doomed to failure.

well I can only continue the dirty old geezer methaphor in reply to that

If say Mike Tyson wanted to force say Kylie Minogue into unconsentual sex, her attempts to fight him off would be doomed to failure so would there be any point in her attempting to do so? Well yes because if there was no attempt he could just turn around and say that 'the slag wanted it that way all along'.

I want Usmanov to know that he is about as popular as a dogs fart at a perfume counter and that he and everyone else in the world knows he is not doing this with my blessing.
That's fair enough, but that is not my point .If you want to prevent him taking over the club pulling funny faces at him and shouting abuse will be like water off a ducks back to this guy. The United action group failed to stop Glazer using similar tactics, and as they say if you don't learn from the mistakes of history then you are doomed to relive them. My advice is to have a whip round and have the cnt shot!

And didn't Tyson fail with that plea once and ended up doing porridge?

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some interesting debate from uzbek expats on usmanov4 president
http://uzbekistan.neweurasia.net/2007/1 ... zbekistan/

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