As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
marcengels wrote:radford's a manager you know steveo
Yes indeed.
Without wanting to sound all "know it all" I did point out at the time when all the "bad egg" bollocks was doing the rounds that we had released one of Europe's best CDMs at a fraction of his value.
Good to see that one paced wonder Flam-money has gone on to become of the leading midfielders in Europe though eh ?
agree and gisagree. i also thought the same re the first part and never bought into this bad egg bollocks.
second part - you could be making the same mistake as radford. milan have had the same players in there who wield alot of power to the very top.
marcengels wrote:radford's a manager you know steveo
Yes indeed.
Without wanting to sound all "know it all" I did point out at the time when all the "bad egg" bollocks was doing the rounds that we had released one of Europe's best CDMs at a fraction of his value.
Good to see that one paced wonder Flam-money has gone on to become of the leading midfielders in Europe though eh ?
agree and gisagree. i also thought the same re the first part and never bought into this bad egg bollocks.
second part - you could be making the same mistake as radford. milan have had the same players in there who wield alot of power to the very top.
Straight forward question - one choice right now - Flamini or Diarra ?
marcengels wrote:radford's a manager you know steveo
Yes indeed.
Without wanting to sound all "know it all" I did point out at the time when all the "bad egg" bollocks was doing the rounds that we had released one of Europe's best CDMs at a fraction of his value.
Good to see that one paced wonder Flam-money has gone on to become of the leading midfielders in Europe though eh ?
agree and gisagree. i also thought the same re the first part and never bought into this bad egg bollocks.
second part - you could be making the same mistake as radford. milan have had the same players in there who wield alot of power to the very top.
Straight forward question - one choice right now - Flamini or Diarra ?
diarra, always was. just that has nothing to do with flamini now. flamini is out of his team like diarra. diarra is higher class. but they are both worth a place at the arsenal right now.
diarra was excellent in the carling cup (though not always at dm - played rb and rmid as well I think)
but was pishpoor in the league when we lost at the riverside
that was a really important game and he bottled it
marcengels wrote:
second part - you could be making the same mistake as radford. milan have had the same players in there who wield alot of power to the very top.
radford never questioned his ability he just hated his moody manner and lack of patience and inability to see no further than his own ego.
SteveO 35 wrote:The release of Diarra remains one of the great gaffs of the Goon-in-Charge, disguised by a load of cock and bull about him being a "bad egg".
Still.....I'm sure in Denilson, Eastmond and Coquelin we've got it licked...especially after that monsterous £5.5m we raked in
it was a big fuck up...after having a season where gilberto flamini and diarra where in the squad to having denilson first choice is fucked up
highburyJD wrote:diarra was excellent in the carling cup (though not always at dm - played rb and rmid as well I think)
but was pishpoor in the league when we lost at the riverside
that was a really important game and he bottled it
And quite how many games did Flamini bottle in that role before he established himself - a season's worth at least. As said elsewhere on here, Diarra was a different class. Watch a DVD of Flamini's first season and you will see 20 games at least of anonymity. Diarra was far far better
SteveO 35 wrote:In a list of threads most designed to piss me off this rates number 1 so congrats for that. Did you consult Hadareud with this amazing piece of insight ?
So let's get it straight why "we" (sorry 'you') don't like him
1. Signs for Chelsea as a French international and one of the most promising midfielders of his generation and spends a season and a half played out of position as right back
2. Joins Arsenal as the new Vieira in the hope of kick starting his career and being picked for the French squad on a regular basis (given Vieira's decline not an unreasonable request).
3. Watches one-paced, one-season wonder Flam-money keep him out of the side.
4. Plays half a dozen games where he single-handedly bosses the midfield with a mixture of skill and agression including a one man show at Blackburn to get our misfits through to the semi of the Beer Cup (having already pissed all over Newcastle in previous round)
5. Gets slightly miffed that one-season "it's always been my dream to play for Milan (especially given that I'm a limited tosser)" Flamini gets back in
6. Has the audacity to suggest that the Goon In Charge might be ruining his prospects
7. Departs for 20% of his actual worth (cue: all Roseys to talk about sell on clauses at this point)
8. Wins more at Portsmouth than under the Goon In Charge
9. Leaves for his actual worth and establishes himself at the heart of one of the best clubs in Europe
10. Becomes their latest discard when a new President flirts with disaster which clearly makes him worse than Denilson or Ramsey
Yes, I can see your logic
radford's can only that his whilst you may wish to push his "good" points he also has that moody, egotistical manner that meant he left two big clubs in quick sucession and yes he did fall on his feet for a short time at real he has now found himself on the bench AGAIN.
and your post seems more of an anti AW rant to be honest. but hey ho
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marcengels wrote:
second part - you could be making the same mistake as radford. milan have had the same players in there who wield alot of power to the very top.
radford never questioned his ability he just hated his moody manner and lack of patience and inability to see no further than his own ego.
never said you did...just saying that theres a hierarchy at some of these clubs.
marcengels wrote:
second part - you could be making the same mistake as radford. milan have had the same players in there who wield alot of power to the very top.
radford never questioned his ability he just hated his moody manner and lack of patience and inability to see no further than his own ego.
never said you did...just saying that there's a hierarchy at some of these clubs.
radford agrees and yet again the lad finds himself on the bench. funny how that at all the clubs he's been at he has never been at the top of the pecking order. but some would still say that that is not his fault.
radford goes on to say that if he had shown some patience he would still be at Arsenal but just like he was at the russians his impatience got the better of him.
marcengels wrote:
second part - you could be making the same mistake as radford. milan have had the same players in there who wield alot of power to the very top.
radford never questioned his ability he just hated his moody manner and lack of patience and inability to see no further than his own ego.
never said you did...just saying that there's a hierarchy at some of these clubs.
radford agrees and yet again the lad finds himself on the bench. funny how that at all the clubs he's been at he has never been at the top of the pecking order. but some would still say that that is not his fault.
radford goes on to say that if he had shown some patience he would still be at Arsenal but just like he was at the russians his impatience got the better of him.
good player bad attitude
bad attitude might be right. hard to say how much. still, worth perservering with, and we shold have found a way
Still waiting to hear what Flamini has done in comparison and why he would be a better bet than Diarra
Some pro-Flamini arguments please
And Radders, my post certainly did contain some anti-AW thoughts and I don't try to disguise it either. When we march off from the Bernabeu with the CL trophy in our palms I will eat my words (unless Abou Diaby scores the winner in which case I look forward to unlimited champagne on tab).
Which starts another point....Abou Diaby is the most talented midfielder in a generation to play for the club but sadly as unappreciated as Diarra.
marcengels wrote:
second part - you could be making the same mistake as radford. milan have had the same players in there who wield alot of power to the very top.
radford never questioned his ability he just hated his moody manner and lack of patience and inability to see no further than his own ego.
never said you did...just saying that there's a hierarchy at some of these clubs.
radford agrees and yet again the lad finds himself on the bench. funny how that at all the clubs he's been at he has never been at the top of the pecking order. but some would still say that that is not his fault.
radford goes on to say that if he had shown some patience he would still be at Arsenal but just like he was at the russians his impatience got the better of him.
good player bad attitude
bad attitude might be right. hard to say how much. still, worth perservering with, and we shold have found a way
radford could not agree more but the lad wanted out, why keep a disgruntled player?
- would certainly add something to the squad (and push Denilson closer to the Abyss 
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