Spy: Agree, Wenger did a fantastic job getting us to the CL final but what's the point of committing suicide when you get there? It's a once in a lifetime experience for most clubs and teams and that could've been our once in a lifetime chance to win it. Barcelona were on the ropes and it was Arsene Wenger's decisions with his substitutions that changed the game. Of course it was wonderful to be there, but would you not rather have won?
Of course I would rather have won. But instead of blaming it on Wenger, three other things come to mind:
1 - the ref could have booked Lehmann and given the goal, keeping it as a proper match. But still that goes down as a Crazy Jens blooper than an AW one.
2 - Henry not taking his 1 on 1 chance. You know the one. Shall we blame Wenger for that?
3 - Henrik Larsson. He won it for Barca.
Oh, and what did you think of Wengers tactics at the Bernabeu or against Juventus?
Spy:I am talking about Wenger's decisions in CRUCIAL games such as the CL final, the recent the FA Cup quarter final and at Everton last week. Arsene Wenger is a genius at most things no-one would deny that, but he's not perfect and in my experience of talking to Arsenal fans, substitutions and tactics are NOT his strong points. Not even the most purist football fan would ever admit that tactics were Wenger's greatest strength.
For every "critical game" blooper he's made in your eyes, you can probably pull out a decent change too. This season alone, RVP coming on against Man U? His reshuffle against Spurs at the lane in the Carling Cup? Freddie coming on against Bolton? Hardly examples of him taking off our best player with 10 minutes to go. All of them critical games at the time, no?
Spy: How can you say he doesn't favour Henry? Whenever we are losing 0-1 in some awful hole up north, such as Blackburn last season, and Henry is stinking the place out, by hiding and not getting involved and glaring at all the other players instead of being a proper captain, he's the last player to be taken off. Do you think that is good for team spirit? Does it inspire you to think we can pull the goal back?
woah, woah, woah, I never said that. Just pointed out you had already contradicted yourself in your article. And to be fair to Wenger, It's been an abysmal season for Henry by the standards he's set for himself. Leaving him on in the past tended to do the trick. But I can't pretend to understand why he was brought on in the 2nd leg against PSV.
Spy: We lost by a one goal margin more than ten times away from home last year and we have already done it seven times this season in the Premiership alone. Add CSK Moscow (0-1), PSV (0-1) and Blackburn (0-1) in the FA Cup that's ten already and it's not even April yet. Do you not want to improve on that? Do you just want to suffer a 0-1 defeat every other week without ever even having the slightest bit of criticism of the manager or the team?
Well thank you Statto. All those games you've pointed out feature US NOT SCORING. that's the big difference. We're no longer tearing up teams in the first 20 minutes. Last game of the Invincible season we went in at half time losing to Leicester. But we knew we'd dish out a kicking in the next 45. That's what we're lacking. And how you blame injuries, suspensions and a star player having a season long misfire for the first time this millenium on AW I don't know.
Oh and look, they're all away games which i've already mentioned we seem to have a problem psyching ourselves up for unless it's the big three in the Premiership. And criticising the manager is fine. At least now you're elaborating rather than just calling everyone a fucking *word censored*.
Why you're asking if i'm happy with things is bizarre as I had already said:
Don't get me wrong, it's really strange to have our season all but over in early March, but it's one thing to be disappointed and another entirely to start baying for blood!
since we're in stat mode, here's a quick one for you - scored in the first half at home against Porto, Watford, Liverpool, Spurs, Blackburn and Charlton. More than 3 games as stated in your article
Spy: As I said nobody's perfect, and we have the internet and the fanzine to air our thoughts. If we all just put up with everything that came our way, it would be a waste and a terribly boring and frustrating way to live. You are naive if you think injuries have anything to do with this. We have struggled to score goals away from home for three years now and this year we have struggled at home as well. Beating Blackburn 6-2 and Watford and Sheffield United 3-0 is fine but you are kidding yourself if you think all in the garden is rosy. When it came to the crunch we couldn't score in Eindhoven with nine of our best eleven players on the pitch. It was groundhog day yet again and it will be again next year unless we question what's going on.
righto. So injuries have NOTHING to do with this. Us not scoring and our top goalscorers suffering injuries - not connected. Well i'm naive then. glad we cleared that one up. Also, I highlighted those the Blackburn, Watford and Sheffield Utd games in response to a post stating we don't score more then one - hardly kidding myself. considering you're fed up losing to shit teams, those games should be in your season highlights.
Spy: In my piece I wasn't talking about Diaby's performance in the Villa game. I like Diaby and I thought he played very well at Villa. He was awful in the second half against Everton that's all I was saying. Judging by your comment, a player is immune from being substituted because he played well in the last match is he? Diaby was probably tired after the Villa game, so why not take him off? Your response is facile.
Wow, a different f-word for a change. You're right though - my response was effortless. Impressed by your ability to extrapolate entirely different meanings from twelve words. And I thought you didn't hold any stock with the notion of players being tired or jaded?
Spy: Half of Gilberto's goals this year have been penalties.
So? If no-ones gonna shoot from outside the box and we're going to try walking it in every time unless we get hacked down, kinda makes sense to have someone who can stick them away.
Spy: The rest he has invariably scored with his head (Bolton and Villa excepted).
The rest with exceptions? is this where I say you've already disproved your point and get deja vu? Not so long ago people were moaning we didn't score enough headers....
Spy: My complaint about Gilberto is his casual passing and giving the ball away to the opposition in dangerous areas. Even the most blinkered Arsenal fan would not disagree that is the worst part of his game. maybe I was over the top in calling him a c**t, because believe it or not, I do see his strengths, but I was frustrated after the Everton game when he was the captain and should've made damn sure we didn't concede in injury time yet again.
I'm blinkered then. For me the worst part of his game is when he's centre back.
And what did you think of his efforts to avoid conceding in injury time against Villa?
Spy: There is a growing groundswell amongst Arsenal fans that we need a coach such as Martin Keown or Steve Bould to counteract Arsene's cavalier approach. When we kept ten clean sheets in the Champions League last year the defence were being coached by Martin Keown. He did a magnificent job. The players loved him and he was very well respected. Much more so than Tony Adams in fact, despite what Cashley Hole said in his book. Was Martin asked to stay on? No. Did Wenger see the advantage of keeping Martin on the staff? Sadly, he didn't and it is more evident than ever this year that the defence is not being coached properly. My guess is Arsene got away with it until 2005 because he still had one or all of Martin Keown, Tony Adams or Sol Campbell at the back during the 1998, 2002 and 2004 seasons and they didn't need much coaching. This current lot do.
If you want to carry on blindly not questioning some of these decisions then fine. I love Arsenal more than anything and all I want is for them to be successful. What's the point of being a fan if you can't make your opinions known? I had a go at Pat Rice because he should be taking some responsibility for the current form as the first team coach and/or Arsene Wenger's right hand man, whichever job he's doing at the time.
I'm really baffled. Whilst I can remotely see the point with the first paragraph . (oh, quick aside as a hope for the future and a reason you might like to see youth teamers in the first team - surely Bould is training the kids, isn't he?). I just didn't get why Pat Rice was getting singled out - in you're original article for lack of goals, now it seems to be because of our leaky defence. If anyone in the current setup bleeds red and white, it's Rice. how you lay everything at his doorstep is beyond me.
Spy: Excuse me mate, you must be reading the wrong article. I never criticised Adebayor in the original rant
Really? howsabout "THEY NEED A STRIKER WHO CAN SCORE 20 GOALS A SEASON. NOT ALIADIERE OR ADEBAYOR"
considering we have Henry (normally a 20 goals a year striker a year AT LEAST) why can't we need adebayor as well? And lumping him in the same category as Alliadiere is just plain mean.
GS: You'd rather be successful and hated like Chel$ki?
Spy: Maybe I used the wrong analogy. My point is that I am fed up with all the media and other supporters liking us because of our pretty pretty sideways football and because we are not a threat to them. And most of all because we are in the habit of losing and people always love it when Arsenal lose.
Wrong analogy is an understatement. This is what made me lose all repect for you and any points you had to make. the only reason i'm responding is that you've made this a 1 on 1. This statement guarantees you'll always lose. especially since the closest you get to retracting it is prefaced by a maybe. As I said at the time, you sir are a mong.
Spy: Maybe I am, but it's a free country and my love for Arsenal overrides everything else, so if my emotional heat of the moment outpouring after yet another miserable last minute 0-1 away defeat upsets people I can live with it. After our recent defeats the Online Gooner should've been full of similar articles. If it makes just one director think about loosening the purse strings in the summer it would've been worth it.
If it's a free country stop bleating at me for disagreeing with you. Why you think there should have been other articles like yours about I don't know. One rabid ranting from a drama queen obviously overfed on success and unable to take a bad season on the chin is quite enough. And loosening the purse strings doesn't always work. just ask Gio, Richard Wright and Franny Jeffers.
Spy: Just when I thought we had something in common, I'm a mong and a twunt am I (whatever that is)?
it's a tw*t and a c*nt combined.
Spy:Your blind faith in Arsene Wenger is commendable and I hope he does know.
Yet you bemoan one bad season. Ho hum. And it's hardly blind. it's earned.
Spy:In fact I'm sure he does. How do you know I don't? If Baptista had stayed on last Sunday we might not have lost. Then who would have 'known'? But you are a little simplistic in your assertion that this season has been down to 'so many first teamers leaving, stadium upheaval and plain simple bad luck'.
For a start, Ashley Cole and Sol Campbell hardly played last season.
Thank Christ.
Spy:We miss Pires but Arsene spent seven million on a replacement for him and Tomas Rosicky has repaid Wenger's judgement by scoring one Premiership goal.
like the way you insert Premiership there. cos his FA Cup and CL goals would undermine your point.
Arsene 'knows' does he? We lost Bergkamp, but how many assists and goals did he score last season? As for the stadium upheaval, we are unbeaten at the Emirates, so don't give me that as an excuse. Simple bad luck? We've had more injuries than ever, but when the squad has been fit (as at Eindhoven) we still failed. We failed to break down Newcastle, Everton, Middlesbrough and Aston Villa at home with a fully fit squad so what's going to change next season when they're all fit again?
Well let's just wait until next year to see. Nice to see how you write off Bergkamp's contribution too. Ever thought he added something to RVP In training, perhaps? And instead of looking at his last season, let's look at what the Iceman added over 11 years. 98 anyone? wasn't bad in 2002 neither.
Funny, we scored against all those teams you mentioned we couldn't break down. 2 of them have even had the odd 7-0 kicking from us in recent years, so understandably come with a shut up shop against us.
Spy:I wish I could agree with you that 'the squad will become fearsome next year'.
Why do I highly doubt this?
Spy:I really hope they are, because as I said I live for Arsenal. However, my blind faith is not quite so blind as yours and I prefer to take a pragmatic view and look at the reasons why perhaps it might not be.
Why you insist it's blind, I don't know. I just call it optimistic. As I said, it depends how you look at it.
Spy: If and when we become fearsome next year, I reserve the right 'to start knocking one out over him again' as it means we won't be putting up with some of the performances we've seen this year and it might also mean that the power of the pen and the internet, and constructive criticism from the fans, such as you and me, may well have played no little part in that success, by making Arsene aware of his shortcomings and imploring him to do something about them.
With an article like your original one, how the f*ck can you reserve the right to fence sit based on how next year goes? Especially if it involves players and a manager you'd rather see the back of?
Spy: P.S. You're not the quiet and less than forthcoming 'Gooner Steward' that gets in the Bank of Friendship with Steve and Belinda are you?
Nope. I'm just a steward at Arsenal who happens to be a gooner. Hardly rocket science. I honestly have no idea what you're on about or if it's just some secret gay chel$ki code you're trying to tap me up with. now be off with you.
although I am flattered to be the centre of an article after a couple of posts.