As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
Arsene Wenger is guilty of what amounts to constructive dismissal. He's built a situation where any true quality player will get so fed up with 5 or 6 average teammates that they have to look elsewhere for success. To say 'fuck off' to Fab is a disgrace, you aren't Arsenal fans you're a joke. That guy has been awesome for us, often having to do it by himself because of the shit around him, Wengers precious babies, aren't worthy of the shirt. If Cesc goes, RVP will be next, but hey, because he doesn't want to stay and fight he'll be a *word censored* I suppose? Jesus, the players get about 15-18 years in their career and Fab has spent more or less half that at Arsenal. If he goes (and it's still an if) then I'll wish him all the best.
northbankbren wrote:If you want to go, than fuck off!!!!
Anyone who doesn't want to be at the club, you can fuck off too!!!!
Fact is we can moan all we want about the club selling our best players, but don't tell me that wenger or the club really want rid of Fabs.
He wants to go so cheerio and enjoy the bench at barca!!!!!
I am in total agreement - this has been a work in progress for 2 years at least - if they don't take a min 50 mil then it's over, Wenger might as well get on the same bus.
Cockerill's chin wrote:Swale, we haven't competed. In the CL, we got a very easy passage and went out to the first decent team. In the PL we fell apart when many considered we had the easier run in. If you are going to tick the injury excuse box then all the top three had bad injuries this season.
I know you are proud of your identity on here as an Arsene disciple but if you are going to lay all responsibility on Cesc moving at the feet of the player then you lose all credibility. You don't have to cling to the identity you have chosen all the time. It will send you mad.
Sometimes a duck is a duck. Cesc leaving is a fuck up. We can't dress it up as anything else. This is a big moment for the Arsenal and one that is as sad as it has been obvious.
Nail on Head !
Exactly.
And for what it's worth, I'll stick my two penneth in. I expected all this next summer so if true, then I'm totally gutted. He's been a great player for the club, never ever given less than 100% and is possibly the main reason why we haven't slipped out of the top 4 in recent seasons. People telling him to fuck off need to see a Doctor. Cesc has sat down with Wenger and Wenger can't promise him quality and funnily enough he isn't falling for the Wenger 'we're only a fraction short' bollocks. He is a winner and ambitious and like someone said on the radio earlier, if you were him would you rather be putting a ball through for Bendtner or Messi? He can't see our above average side being turned around in the next 2/3 years and by that time he feels he might have missed the boat with his home club? Can you really blame him?
If he goes, as Cockerill said, it's crunch time on many levels. But if he does we should wish him well and not c*nt him off.
It's about time the fans demanded the truth about whats going on at Arsenal. Clearly something is seriously fucked up behind the scenes - be it wenger, the board or both. Someone has to be held accountable for the wreck our club is becoming before our eyes.
Fabregas is probably the single most passionate arsenal player of last season. He wore his heart on his sleeve every single game. The barce game epitomised that IMO as well as the villa game.
You're right - if he doesnt want to be here then he might as well go. But at the same time, I dont really blame him and wont hold a grudge bearing in mind all the shit we've all had to put up with this season.
Clearly he's asked wenger in this meeting whether their ambitions are the same. Had wenger said we're going to sign 5-6 top quality players, cesc may stay. By the sounds of it, wenger said something along the lines of we have a good squad.. maturing... blah blah. Who can blame him for going to barce?
I'm pissed off about it, but it's been coming for a couple of years now. Why would any world class players want to play at Arsenal?
Cockerill's chin wrote:Swale, we haven't competed. In the CL, we got a very easy passage and went out to the first decent team. In the PL we fell apart when many considered we had the easier run in. If you are going to tick the injury excuse box then all the top three had bad injuries this season.
I know you are proud of your identity on here as an Arsene disciple but if you are going to lay all responsibility on Cesc moving at the feet of the player then you lose all credibility. You don't have to cling to the identity you have chosen all the time. It will send you mad.
Sometimes a duck is a duck. Cesc leaving is a fuck up. We can't dress it up as anything else. This is a big moment for the Arsenal and one that is as sad as it has been obvious.
Nail on Head !
Exactly.
And for what it's worth, I'll stick my two penneth in. I expected all this next summer so if true, then I'm totally gutted. He's been a great player for the club, never ever given less than 100% and is possibly the main reason why we haven't slipped out of the top 4 in recent seasons. People telling him to fuck off need to see a Doctor. Cesc has sat down with Wenger and Wenger can't promise him quality and funnily enough he isn't falling for the Wenger 'we're only a fraction short' bollocks. He is a winner and ambitious and like someone said on the radio earlier, if you were him would you rather be putting a ball through for Bendtner or Messi? He can't see our above average side being turned around in the next 2/3 years and by that time he feels he might have missed the boat with his home club? Can you really blame him?
If he goes, as Cockerill said, it's crunch time on many levels. But if he does we should wish him well and not c*nt him off.
So his love for the club only extends if we are winning things? I am a supporter of Arsenal, should I give my ST up @ the grove and get one @ Stamford Bridge because there winning things? NO, I stick with Arsenal through the good times and the bad. He is only 22, its not like he's on his last legs and is worried about not winning anything. Poor excuse IMO.
Cockerill's chin wrote:Swale, we haven't competed. In the CL, we got a very easy passage and went out to the first decent team. In the PL we fell apart when many considered we had the easier run in. If you are going to tick the injury excuse box then all the top three had bad injuries this season.
I know you are proud of your identity on here as an Arsene disciple but if you are going to lay all responsibility on Cesc moving at the feet of the player then you lose all credibility. You don't have to cling to the identity you have chosen all the time. It will send you mad.
Sometimes a duck is a duck. Cesc leaving is a fuck up. We can't dress it up as anything else. This is a big moment for the Arsenal and one that is as sad as it has been obvious.
Nail on Head !
Exactly.
And for what it's worth, I'll stick my two penneth in. I expected all this next summer so if true, then I'm totally gutted. He's been a great player for the club, never ever given less than 100% and is possibly the main reason why we haven't slipped out of the top 4 in recent seasons. People telling him to fuck off need to see a Doctor. Cesc has sat down with Wenger and Wenger can't promise him quality and funnily enough he isn't falling for the Wenger 'we're only a fraction short' bollocks. He is a winner and ambitious and like someone said on the radio earlier, if you were him would you rather be putting a ball through for Bendtner or Messi? He can't see our above average side being turned around in the next 2/3 years and by that time he feels he might have missed the boat with his home club? Can you really blame him?
If he goes, as Cockerill said, it's crunch time on many levels. But if he does we should wish him well and not c*nt him off.
Got one word for you Dennis the sugarcoat/deflecting tactics is on another level today.
how anyone can slag or blame fgas for wanting to join the best club in the world is beyond me at least he isnt like the rest of the low lifes diaby eboue and co who dont care if they win trophys or not but are happy to sit and take the cash while laughing all the way to the bank,he has shown that it success he wants if wenger showed the same ambition then fgas would go nowhere
LOL this is from a stupid **** fuckin blog on newsnow - a sensible quote from a knuckle dragger:
Cesc would be a massive miss for them but I've heard he is actually going to put pen to paper on a new contract with Arsenal. He is currently in London to get all the new kit stuff out of the way before the World Cup starts and based on this the Spanish papers are again adding fuel to the fire.
He wanted to sort out everything before the World Cup and its his new wages not Barcelona that he is sorting out.
Never agreed with a **** before but you never know
Cant blame him,he has a fantastic opportunity to be part of what could genuinely be considered the greatest club team ever assembled,with Villa & Torres on the horizon only a mug wouldnt take that.
It's that time of the year again, when we start refreshing the official home page waiting to see one of our greatest players announce their leave, wonderful bloody times!
...Not that I blame him anywho, I hope he finally recieves some worthy medals and is around players who are world class.
Cockerill's chin wrote:Swale, we haven't competed. In the CL, we got a very easy passage and went out to the first decent team. In the PL we fell apart when many considered we had the easier run in. If you are going to tick the injury excuse box then all the top three had bad injuries this season.
I know you are proud of your identity on here as an Arsene disciple but if you are going to lay all responsibility on Cesc moving at the feet of the player then you lose all credibility. You don't have to cling to the identity you have chosen all the time. It will send you mad.
Sometimes a duck is a duck. Cesc leaving is a fuck up. We can't dress it up as anything else. This is a big moment for the Arsenal and one that is as sad as it has been obvious.
top post,agree with almost all you have said on this thread.
the sugarcoat/deflecting tactics is on another level today.
