CESC IS NOT FOR SALE IN PRAVDA.COM!

[NBM]

We are a class football club inlike those mouthy fuckers - and we have balls despite what some on here believe.

Im proud of the way the club has reacted to this, remained honourable and classy throughout.

Fuck off Barca

Agreed with the second part, but lets see how big these balls are if they counter with something in the £50 - £60mil range

[sycicsid]

YESS PISSS OF BARCA XAVI, PUYOL and all you little cretins related to that mammoth of ship named Barca....Finally we can turn around and say F off in return.

Cesc aint going nowhere you losers.

[goonersid]

We are a class football club inlike those mouthy fuckers - and we have balls despite what some on here believe.

Im proud of the way the club has reacted to this, remained honourable and classy throughout.

Fuck off Barca

Agreed with the second part, but lets see how big these balls are if they counter with something in the £50 - £60mil range

This could become very messy (if you'll pardon the pun) we will have a disgruntled player, who no matter what his previous loyalty to the club, wishes now to leave.
We should try to get as much as possible, then re-build as we are only delaying his departure not averting it. In the end though we will neither re-build nor avert, and we will be in the same position in 12 months time if not earlier ie in January.

[franksav63]

Yep, I agree, it's really only delaying the inevitable, if this is true, it's just delayed for a season or two.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

We are a class football club inlike those mouthy fuckers - and we have balls despite what some on here believe.

Im proud of the way the club has reacted to this, remained honourable and classy throughout.

Fuck off Barca

Agreed with the second part, but lets see how big these balls are if they counter with something in the £50 - £60mil range

This could become very messy (if you'll pardon the pun) we will have a disgruntled player, who no matter what his previous loyalty to the club, wishes now to leave.
We should try to get as much as possible, then re-build as we are only delaying his departure not averting it. In the end though we will neither re-build nor avert, and we will be in the same position in 12 months time if not earlier ie in January.

I dont think he is "disgruntled" though, he clearly loves the club and has explicity said so.

He also loves Barca and has made no secret of this, i expect him to stay for next season and to re-asses where we are then, Arsenal may have said they wont stand in his way next summer, who knows, at the end of the day he is under contract, and it is not as if he has been mistreated or anything, im confident he will continue to give 100% for our club.

As ive said all the way through this, he will be here next season - after that however, who knows. Cesc said it was up to Arsenal what happenned, and many on here said we wouldnt have the bollocks to fight for him...well, we clearly do - and make no mistake about it, Wenger has been instrumental in this - as clarified by Cesc himself.

[djhdjh]

Good, hopefully with that statement being so aggressive the board have boxed themselves into a corner so that even if offered money they would like to accept they can't without looking stupid.

[sycicsid]

How long has Fabregas been destined to actually go to Barcelona? If rumours are to be believed and Joe Cole has already agreed a deal with Arsenal then maybe it may have been as early as January, which was a time when other clubs have been able to approach Cole. Is this a deal coming to fruition? Has it been in the making for a while and kept extremly secret? Will this actually be a catalyst for Arsenal? Joe Cole, Chamakah and if rumours are to be believed Yaya toure will be chucked into any deal… those three players of quality added to a fee for fabregas which Arsene will be allowed to spend and you could finally be seeing the arsenal of old. Yes Fabregas has been great for both the Premiership and Arsenal but sometimes one step back is a giant leap forward. Arsene is a clever guy, but in Fabregas and this deal he may have just brought Arsenal back to the big time for quite a while. Interesting developments and will be interesting to see what happens this summer!

[USMartin]

There's a lot we need to wait and see on here, and if any of this happens than today was just a cost-free PR exercise re-assuring supporters of the Board's "ambition" without actually having to invest money to show any

What happens if Barca up their offer
What happens if The Barca players in S. Africa try to de-stablize Cesc
What happens if we don't invest in strengthening the team
What happens if we're right back here next year
What happens if like Henry he moves then for well below market value

It wouildn't be the first time they might have pulled the wool over the eyes of those more trusting - the Baptista and Robinho sagas seem fishy to say the least, as does Henry's last deal after Paris, as afforts to re-assure supporters of the Board's ambition without having to prove it by spending significantly more in their eyes money, who is to say the Board doesn't see this as a chance to woo back the doubting supporters without having to spend that awful 50 million they'd have to spend otherwise, and they can still make 25-35 million maybe more next summer as well.

I'd just suggest its more than a bit premature to praise the Board here. Actions speak louder than words ever will. Let's wait and see what the club does before accepting their word as absolute fact, and let's keep some pressure on them to to show through action that their word has meaning, which they've yet to do.

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

Yep, I agree, it's really only delaying the inevitable, if this is true, it's just delayed for a season or two.

But Cesc has said for years he will go to Barca one day, we will have to sell him at some point or let him leave on a free.

The point is, he is under contract, doesnt resent the club, has not been mistreated and Wenger has obviously pursuaded him that Arsenal will decide his future and correctly so.

If we win the league next year and he goes, so be it - at least then he will have acheived something with Arsenal, which im sure he himself wants.

[sycicsid]

Yep, I agree, it's really only delaying the inevitable, if this is true, it's just delayed for a season or two.

But Cesc has said for years he will go to Barca one day, we will have to sell him at some point or let him leave on a free.

The point is, he is under contract, doesnt resent the club, has not been mistreated and Wenger has obviously pursuaded him that Arsenal will decide his future and correctly so.

If we win the league next year and he goes, so be it - at least then he will have acheived something with Arsenal, which im sure he himself wants.

yup spot on...

[Bendtners Drinking Buddy]

There's a lot we need to wait and see on here, and if any of this happens than today was just a cost-free PR exercise re-assuring supporters of the Board's "ambition" without actually having to invest money to show any

What happens if Barca up their offer
What happens if The Barca players in S. Africa try to de-stablize Cesc
What happens if we don't invest in strengthening the team
What happens if we're right back here next year
What happens if like Henry he moves then for well below market value

It wouildn't be the first time they might have pulled the wool over the eyes of those more trusting - the Baptista and Robinho sagas seem fishy to say the least, as does Henry's last deal after Paris, as afforts to re-assure supporters of the Board's ambition without having to prove it by spending significantly more in their eyes money, who is to say the Board doesn't see this as a chance to woo back the doubting supporters without having to spend that awful 50 million they'd have to spend otherwise, and they can still make 25-35 million maybe more next summer as well.

I'd just suggest its more than a bit premature to praise the Board here. Actions speak louder than words ever will. Let's wait and see what the club does before accepting their word as absolute fact, and let's keep some pressure on them to to show through action that their word has meaning, which they've yet to do.

So do you want him to stay this season or not? You have explicity cirtised Arsenal for losing key players, and now you are moaning that we are fighting to keep them?

What are you on about what the board does - they have just done something have they not?

[Basil is a Gooner]

Maybe they read this?

http://www.onlinegooner.com/exclusive/index.php?id=1722

Seems like a good compromise........

[USMartin]

There's a lot we need to wait and see on here, and if any of this happens than today was just a cost-free PR exercise re-assuring supporters of the Board's "ambition" without actually having to invest money to show any

What happens if Barca up their offer
What happens if The Barca players in S. Africa try to de-stablize Cesc
What happens if we don't invest in strengthening the team
What happens if we're right back here next year
What happens if like Henry he moves then for well below market value

It wouildn't be the first time they might have pulled the wool over the eyes of those more trusting - the Baptista and Robinho sagas seem fishy to say the least, as does Henry's last deal after Paris, as afforts to re-assure supporters of the Board's ambition without having to prove it by spending significantly more in their eyes money, who is to say the Board doesn't see this as a chance to woo back the doubting supporters without having to spend that awful 50 million they'd have to spend otherwise, and they can still make 25-35 million maybe more next summer as well.

I'd just suggest its more than a bit premature to praise the Board here. Actions speak louder than words ever will. Let's wait and see what the club does before accepting their word as absolute fact, and let's keep some pressure on them to to show through action that their word has meaning, which they've yet to do.

So do you want him to stay this season or not? You have explicity cirtised Arsenal for losing key players, and now you are moaning that we are fighting to keep them?

Don't twist that please. I am pointing out simply that's its cheaper not sell a player than it is to buy one if that will please the restless supporters, and that in recent years the cheaper way has become confused with the Arsenal way.

I would be delighted if the Board would would underline its intention to actually not sell Cesc by actually buying a few players of the requesite quality to support him out there this summer, rather than falling for the notion that not selling Cesc this summer but say next summer shows how much more ambition they have than the doubters think.

I'm sorry but if we are going to keep Cesc then haggle over players like this Polish kid when he's only worth 7-9 million anyway what's the point of this statement of intent other than that its the least costly statement of intent that could be made?

I'd love for Cesc to stay the next several years as part of a great Arsenal team, but there would have to be a great Arsenal team here for that to be possible and the team here has some of the makings in it already but more of the same avoidance of additional inevstment in the team will only see this team battele for a top four place again and nothing more next year and beyond. And if you think our best players will stay indefinitely for that I think your sadly mistaken.

Let the Board show their words are sincere by backing the manager putting the 50-60 million needed after years of non-spending into this team now I say. It will only be 40-45 million net after all. Of course the reports that we're haggling over another 8 million pound player should tell us how sincere the Board really is at this point.

[USMartin]

Maybe they read this?

http://www.onlinegooner.com/exclusive/index.php?id=1722

Seems like a good compromise........

Maybe but what's the point other than mis-leading supporters again about our ambition?

[augie]

It seems an accepted fact that wenger did indeed meet cesc a couple of weeks ago to discuss his future so I would suggest that what was said at that meeting will/should dictate what happens from here on. If cesc said complained about the lack of quality signings and indicated a willingness to stay if that was amended then we should do everything in our power to bring in those quality signings (I know we should be bringing them in anyway but this is wenger and Arsenal FC we are talking about ). However if cesc indicated that his patience has run out and he wants away regardless of what signings wenger makes then he should be sold this summer for the maximum amount possible.

Personally the fact that barca had made an official bid earlier didnt really make any great difference to how I see things and likewise the official statement from the club means fcuk all to me either. All that matters now is how this thing ends and not the cheap talk from both sides up to this point It does concern me greatly that cesc might be pushed into making an official transfer request by barca but of course that can only happen if he decides he wants away regardless.