Rafa set for the chop!

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BOJDE LFC wrote:
BelgianGooner wrote:
BOJDE LFC wrote:
g88ner wrote:
BOJDE LFC wrote:Well you've just made yourself look silly there. You do realize there is only one player there over £20 million? How can a team compete with a team that can afford to put £20 million and £30 million players on the bench?
This isn't just about competing with ManUre & Chelsea... you finished below Sp*rs, Citeh and Villa in the league, losing 11 games along the way & you failed to even get out of the group stage of the CL - for the time and money Rafa has invested in his squad, that's not good enough. In fact, it's woeful.
Well I think if you look at the injuries and general bad luck we've had this season (sorry, a beach ball?) we just couldn't compete. If Gerrard and Torres were fit for at least 75% of the season then we would have finished in the top 4 without a doubt and possibly done better in the Europa League. No other team has had as bad luck as us with the amount of injuries we've had this season, this is why you need £20 million players on the bench, something we simply can't do.
What about us then? Van Persie out for most of the season, Gallas, Bendtner, Fabregas, Clichy, Gibbs, Vermaelen all out for a long time
True, you've had very bad luck with injuries also and have obviously paid the price for not having a good enough squad, something United don't have to worry about because they can go out and buy a £17 million or £30 million to sit on the bench and be able to fill in when the star men get injured. With our dependancy on Torres and Gerrard it really has just been bad luck with one of the them coming back from injury only to find the other out injured.
mcdowell42 wrote:Torres wasnt fit so what does benitez do goes out and spends money on a midfielder and a full back hes a twat and no loss to english football
Alonso wanted to go to Real Madrid (yes, that's right Rafa didn't want to sell him) and he had to replace him with another centre midfielder, he spent a lot on Johnson and the money probably could have been better spent on a back up striker. Even though N'Gog did very well this season.

What the fuck are you talking about benitez spent the previous summer trying to buy gareth barry while alonso was still there can u blame alonso wanting to leave hes gone to a team who play football not lump it in the air all the time.Now benitez has gone to inter milan where he will eventually drag them down. Get a grip :roll:

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Guess why he couldn't get Barry? One word, Parry. The fact is that we've lost our best manager for 20 years and the only person to stand up for the values of our club. Now the owners can do as they please, sell Torres, Gerrard, Masch and pay off a lot of debt. 2 Champs League Semi's, 2 Champs League finals, Fa Cup, 2nd last year and one bad season in 5 years is now considered a bad managerial reign? Too many people are watching Sky sports and listening to talksport me thinks. Can't conjure up an opinion of their own. So many teams would kill to have had that in the last 5 years. He brought in a strong team to develop the reserves and youth teams. Oh, and guess how much the next manager will be given as a transfer budget? 10-15 million. We'll regret this for years I imagine. Looking like a downward slope from here tbh.

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I blame The Sun newspaper. Isn't that how it normally works on Moansyside?

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BOJDE LFC wrote:Looking like a downward slope from here tbh.
Fingers crossed.

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BOJDE LFC wrote:Guess why he couldn't get Barry? One word, Parry. The fact is that we've lost our best manager for 20 years and the only person to stand up for the values of our club. Now the owners can do as they please, sell Torres, Gerrard, Masch and pay off a lot of debt. 2 Champs League Semi's, 2 Champs League finals, Fa Cup, 2nd last year and one bad season in 5 years is now considered a bad managerial reign? Too many people are watching Sky sports and listening to talksport me thinks. Can't conjure up an opinion of their own. So many teams would kill to have had that in the last 5 years. He brought in a strong team to develop the reserves and youth teams. Oh, and guess how much the next manager will be given as a transfer budget? 10-15 million. We'll regret this for years I imagine. Looking like a downward slope from here tbh.

EVERYBODY AT FAULT AT LPOOL EXCEPT RAFA.God you really are deluded :roll:

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Nice to see that instead of putting up decent points you simply say I'm deluded. On that note I'll call this debate over.

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Ok if you want im sure you have some houses to burgle.Stevie gs and carraghers homes will be empty since their in SA. Happy robbing

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BOJDE LFC wrote:Nice to see that instead of putting up decent points you simply say I'm deluded. On that note I'll call this debate over.
yep you were wrong and apart from that one comeback rafa was below par.

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On that note I'll call this debate over
Great, I'm sure there's a minute's silence or a candle lighting ceremony for you to get back to anyway.

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Bitter, bitter, bitter, you're sounding just like the Bluenoses.

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Bitter, bitter, bitter, you're sounding just like the Bluenoses
Yeah, you're right. We're all really bitter about the fact that you lot sacked your manager. Wow, I can just feel myself boiling over inside. In fact, I think I might boycott a newspaper over it or blame it all on somebody else.

Enjoy the Europa League next season and I'm sure King Kenny will sort it all out for you. Just like Newcastle and Keegan.

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This is the wrong forum to go to if you're looking for sympathy over Rafa's alleged lack of funding.

Our club record transfer fee is 18m (i think :) ), go figure.

Edit: After reading some of the shite on RAWK you would think that football is won and lost purely on transfer fees. There are plenty of decent buys out there in the 5-10 mil bracket but rafa has either bought shite or failed to extract the best of the promising players he has bought. The buck stops with the manager on that one.

A decent manager can mould a team without the need to be bankrolled by a sugar daddy but can you honestly say Rafa has ever successfully moulded a team? His successes were largely down to individual inspiration and a big dose of luck rather then his ability to build a squad.

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I heard graeme souness is looking for a job :wink:

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Souness took Michael Thomas from us didnt he? A season before I started watching the mighty Arsenal!

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LDB wrote:This is the wrong forum to go to if you're looking for sympathy over Rafa's alleged lack of funding.

Our club record transfer fee is 18m (i think :) ), go figure.

Edit: After reading some of the shite on RAWK you would think that football is won and lost purely on transfer fees. There are plenty of decent buys out there in the 5-10 mil bracket but rafa has either bought shite or failed to extract the best of the promising players he has bought. The buck stops with the manager on that one.

A decent manager can mould a team without the need to be bankrolled by a sugar daddy but can you honestly say Rafa has ever successfully moulded a team? His successes were largely down to individual inspiration and a big dose of luck rather then his ability to build a squad.
Well he got us to the level that we were getting into the last eight and four of the Champions League every year and finishing one year with our highest points total ever in the Premier League so I would say that that's proof of the quality of players he's brought in. I don't get how luck comes into it, I can imagine if '89 was reversed the amount of 'luck' Liverpool got. Luck is just an excuse when someone can't think of a logical answer. You make your own luck as the saying goes. Look at the amount of own goals that have benefited United this season, they were not all down to 'luck'.

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