Fabregas/anyone else who dont want to be here - FUCK OFF!!!!

[g88ner]

Tell me again how and where has he conducted himself badly this summer ? Remaining silent while other people have been mouthing off is not behaving badly no matter how much you want to say otherwise. As well as that I would say that approx 98% of the fans on here agree that cesc looks genuinly embarassed by the jersey thing in your photo and you cannot blame him for a situation that was not of his making

Well he hasn't commited himself to the club, or his contract.

He hasn't confirmed he will be an Arsenal player next year.

He has asked to be given permission for a tranfer to Barca. (If you dont think this has happened than your nuts).

He only signed a new contract recently and now wants out.

His agent has been touting the Barca sale, Cesc has never denied these reports.

He decided to hide behind the "Im focusing on the World Cup", playing the waiting game (putting himself on the market basically).

Remember this is our CAPTAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Are you saying he has conducted himself well in regards to our club?

HE'S TAKING THE FUCKING PISS OUT OF US FANS AND OUR CLUB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So basically, you're just upset because he wants to leave. You list several ways inwhich he's conducted himself badly, but they're all just the same point put different ways.

He's actually done very little wrong for a player who wants to go home.

He met Wenger and asked to leave. Other than that, he's stayed quiet. Apart from the odd nice comment about Wenger, Arsenal and the fans, of course.

I still think this boils down to fact that some fans cannot handle the fact that a player wants to leave. I'm sure 99% of us want Cesc to stay, but that's life. Why can't people just behave and stop lashing out like a love sick teenager?

[topgoon]

i posted this on another thread, but i think its more suited here...

Oh fucking hell, listen to everyone... 'Wenger is a c**t, the board are wankers, ill burn the stadium down, arsenal arent a big club, everything is shit'

What a pile of shite, why has nobody said 'Another prick that has been made by Arsenal and then shit on them, the manager and everything associated with it, as Anelka did, as Cole did, as Hleb did...there are others...if he goas then fuck him, he is as bad as the lot of them, all that shit about how he loves the club, well stay and fight for it then, dont fucking jump ship!

we dont get that though do we, we get 'i dont blame him, our players are shit, he is a legend' Bollocks! If you love a player that much that just pisses off somewhere else then you might aswell start supporting Barcelona, some of you will be happy there because you havent quite got over Henry and can cheer him on again, it is probably best!

If he goes, fuck him, let him go, Arsenal will still be here and still be a massive club challenging in the premiership and champions league. All this shit about Cesc being the only one who fights for the shirt, clearly not if he wants out!

If he comes out and says its all bollocks and stays at Arsenal then fair play to the lad, as we dont actually know the full truth, but if this is all true then we just continue without him, let him piss off, ive said this for a while, he isnt as good as xavi or iniesta, and i firmly believe his first team opportunities will be limited

There, i said it!

As much as the board,AW,the stars the moon, blah,blah,blah are to blame for him wanting to go, any fan of The Arsenal who is happy with the way our club is being taken the piss out of has some odd priorities

[topgoon]

Yet another ridiculous post.

6 years without a trophy and no sign of any incoming players of quality.
Who in their right mind would want to stay?

No shock to me that Cesc is going.

Thanks a lot and good luck.

He can go if he wants to but when was the last time you saw such a public piss take out of another club, Madrid did it over Ronaldo and now Barcelona are doing it over Fabregas. All clubs try to agitate a move for players they want but 3 years of this shite, not to mention all the other players of ours they have done it with over the years.

Forget the board,forget AW, it's us the fans that have to endure it every summmer. If AC Milan did this with Barcelona players every summer can you imagine the uproar frm the hypocritical catalans. I think Figo has an idea of the hypocrisy from catalunia.

I have said it before and will say it again 'Mes que un club' my arse. They put Unicef on their shirts because unlike most clubs they can afford to bit like Villa with their yankee sugar daddy. Try doing a premier league style fair share TV deal and lets see if you can afford freebies for Unicef.

It's not Fabregas we all have a problem with but the public and insulting way this has been done.

For AW this is a job, allbeit one he loves but still a job, for Gazidis Arsenal FC is purely a job, for Hill-Wood he sees himself as a custodian of some sort of family legacy but is his heart as invested in it as all that......but for all of us on here it's more than a job and for me everytime I see those Barca stories or Xavi/Iniest/Pique/whoever does an interview about 'come home cesc' it's taking the piss

[Red Gunner]

I have said it before and will say it again 'Mes que un club' my arse. They put Unicef on their shirts because unlike most clubs they can afford to bit like Villa with their yankee sugar daddy. Try doing a premier league style fair share TV deal and lets see if you can afford freebies for Unicef.

Aston Villa did the same with the Acorns charity so it can be afforded in the Premiership

[topgoon]

I have said it before and will say it again 'Mes que un club' my arse. They put Unicef on their shirts because unlike most clubs they can afford to bit like Villa with their yankee sugar daddy. Try doing a premier league style fair share TV deal and lets see if you can afford freebies for Unicef.

Aston Villa did the same with the Acorns charity so it can be afforded in the Premiership

As I wrote

[Red Gunner]

I have said it before and will say it again 'Mes que un club' my arse. They put Unicef on their shirts because unlike most clubs they can afford to bit like Villa with their yankee sugar daddy. Try doing a premier league style fair share TV deal and lets see if you can afford freebies for Unicef.

Aston Villa did the same with the Acorns charity so it can be afforded in the Premiership

As I wrote

How much are the glasses on your avatar?

I think I might need some

[northbankbren]

So basically, you're just upset because he wants to leave. You list several ways inwhich he's conducted himself badly, but they're all just the same point put different ways.

He's actually done very little wrong for a player who wants to go home.

He met Wenger and asked to leave. Other than that, he's stayed quiet. Apart from the odd nice comment about Wenger, Arsenal and the fans, of course.

I still think this boils down to fact that some fans cannot handle the fact that a player wants to leave. I'm sure 99% of us want Cesc to stay, but that's life. Why can't people just behave and stop lashing out like a love sick teenager?

Other than that?

Other than that?



IT SAYS IT ALL.....HE WANTS TO GO!!!

And cant handle the fact he wants to go???

Where have you been? He's made it clear from pretty much day 1 he want to "go home" at some point (showing great respect towards us of course). He's gone. I delt with the situation a couple of years ago. And when he showed greaat loyalty by putting in a transfer request but not making a press statement about it knew he was gone.

I think its those who want to convince themselves Cesc is a top bloke and a gooner through and through that cant deal with the situation.

Cesc should do us a favour and publicly come out and say he wants to go to Barca rather than treat us like mugs.

No point staying another year when he doesnt want to.

[antgel]

When did some of our supporters start to believe that individual players are somehow bigger than the club in this *team sport*? The club will go on, always has, always will.

I don't know when people started to get so desperate about individual players, but it's probably in the Sky-era when individual players really started to get hyped beyond their all recognition. The stars - Cantona, Bergkamp, Zola, Klinsmann etc...

Whatever happened to the attitude that the club is the big thing and the players are "just" there to serve the club? It's like splitting up with a bird, there are always more fish in the sea. Is it really worth getting worked up over a single player who wants to leave and who has given us pretty good service?

I still don't understand why people think we have a divine right to win everything at the top level. Success at the top level doesn't come on a plate, and no matter how much you think you love Arsenal, we are what we are, *not* what you *think* we should be.

Show me a man who looks at our entire history and thinks we are currently shit, and I will show you a man who lacks perspective and patience and thinks only in black and white.

We'll be back, we'll win the league in the next ten years. Always have, always will. Until such time, maybe people could try to enjoy the good bits, along with the obvious rants at Denilson and Diaby, and Arsene Wenger, without whom players like Fabregas wouldn't have been at Arsenal in the first place.

And I'm not even an old git.

*returns to summer holiday football break*

[Percy Dalton]

I don't want to be here and will be fucking off shortly!

Probably to the Chavs down the road, depending on who they sign obviously!

[augie]

When did some of our supporters start to believe that individual players are somehow bigger than the club in this *team sport*? The club will go on, always has, always will.

I don't know when people started to get so desperate about individual players, but it's probably in the Sky-era when individual players really started to get hyped beyond their all recognition. The stars - Cantona, Bergkamp, Zola, Klinsmann etc...

Whatever happened to the attitude that the club is the big thing and the players are "just" there to serve the club? It's like splitting up with a bird, there are always more fish in the sea. Is it really worth getting worked up over a single player who wants to leave and who has given us pretty good service?

I still don't understand why people think we have a divine right to win everything at the top level. Success at the top level doesn't come on a plate, and no matter how much you think you love Arsenal, we are what we are, *not* what you *think* we should be.

Show me a man who looks at our entire history and thinks we are currently shit, and I will show you a man who lacks perspective and patience and thinks only in black and white.

We'll be back, we'll win the league in the next ten years. Always have, always will. Until such time, maybe people could try to enjoy the good bits, along with the obvious rants at Denilson and Diaby, and Arsene Wenger, without whom players like Fabregas wouldn't have been at Arsenal in the first place.

And I'm not even an old git.

*returns to summer holiday football break*

Is it worth getting worked up about a single player looking to leave ? It is when he is our captain, our talisman and our only class player. It is when it will without a doubt send a definitive message to the rest of europe and the world that no top player wants to stay at our club anymore

What happened to the notion that the players are there to serve the club ? Wenger happened - nowadays the players loyalty (or whats left of it) is to wenger and not to our club

In my opinion you have somehow lost perspective of what it is the fans are unhappy about - the vast majority of us dont feel a divine right to sucess but we sure as hell expect the club to do everything in its power to try and obtain that sucess. I know that the size of our transfer kitty is a debate that will keep raging for some time yet but one thing that cannot be denied is that in the last 12 months the club has paid off 10 years worth of mortgage repayments in advance - if that money had of been invested in a keeper we could be going into this new season as defending champs instead of a club desperately trying to keep hold of our skipper

You speak positively about winning the league within the next 10 years but my question for you is how ? Show me a club that sells all of its best players and still wins trophies - you can well point to the young talent coming through but if we keep selling the better players in our team wont we continually be in transition ? What quality player in his right mind would want to stay at a club under these circumstances ? There is a shit load wrong with the workings of our club and the thinking behind it and until that changes sucess is not coming our way anytime soon

You compare cesc leaving with splitting up with a bird - in my experience you hope that when a bird leaves you hope that have been the one doing the screwing up to that point but with every good player leaving our club it feels like it is the club that is doing the screwing and it is us fans that are on the receiving end

[merson_is_god]

Does the thread title refer to fans as well? Quite a few on here I'd want to quite happily fuck off!!!

[Percy Dalton]

Does the thread title refer to fans as well? Quite a few on here I'd want to quite happily fuck off!!!

[flash gunner]

Does the thread title refer to fans as well? Quite a few on here I'd want to quite happily fuck off!!!

Name and shame them MIG im with ya

[rigsby]

I've ceased to care. It was the same with Brady/Stapleton/Paddy/Henry and now Cesc. The club goes on, and always will. Players come in and replace them and new people emerge. Thats football. Look at United with Ronaldo, he left, and Nani and the wigan guy whose name i can't remember stepped up to the plate. They weren't on his level but they will be.

Ramsey is the natural succesor to Cesc, with Wilshire in there as well. Its the natural cycle of things. Good luck to Cesc, he wants to leave and we should let him but for the right price. If they don't offer us what he's worth then he'll stay.

[flash gunner]

I've ceased to care. It was the same with Brady/Stapleton/Paddy/Henry and now Cesc. The club goes on, and always will. Players come in and replace them and new people emerge. Thats football. Look at United with Ronaldo, he left, and Nani and the wigan guy whose name i can't remember stepped up to the plate.

Not the best example Rigsby. United went from Champions for 3 consecutive years and European cup winners and then runners up to fuck all when Ronaldo went

Youve got me even more worried now