The board(this is especially for USmartin )

[Red Gunner]

"It's ze board"

[USMartin]

:awnker:
so bored of this guy now.
scars?love for arsenal?petition?
i'd never dream of going on a penguins forum to question every aspect of the club without a damn good reason.

I'd say being concerned about the club's future is a damn good reason.

As I said earlier unless you didn't celebrate our trophies to simply say triophies don't matter when we don't win any is a cop-out pure and simple.

Of course we don't have to win every year or even contend to win every year. I 've seen teams I suuport here go from top-to-bottom -and- back again and vice-versa in a number of sports and I always did I still support them.

The case is here is did we give a shot a real greatness for nother reason than to benefit certain people running the club. I hope I'm wrong on that and would hope the Board would prove me wrong. But remember what you said about being better than s***s will that continue on the path we're on now?

Like I said I hope I'm wrong - what if you're wrong? What then?

[QuartzGooner]

Do the research then we'll talk.

You want to engage in blacklisting opinions you don't like. You accused me of being just a wind-up merchant . Back it up now or be a man and admit your accusation was untrue.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
According to you, people who do not sign your petition are gutless!
If you cannot convince another poster of your ideas through standard methods such as logic, evidence and eloquence of your posts, you instead resort to personal insult.
Banging on about "Stand up for yourself, be a man, show some guts" etc.


Obviously you are a wind up merchant.
Post away all you like about the board, but do not expect respect for your attempts at bullying.

Obsessed with multiple anti-board rants on Forums, regardless of thread title.
Which when channelled into action boil down into an obscure petition rather than working with established fans groups.

Whether you are a stooge for a takeover group, is known only to yourself.

[USMartin]

Do the research then we'll talk.

You want to engage in blacklisting opinions you don't like. You accused me of being just a wind-up merchant . Back it up now or be a man and admit your accusation was untrue.

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
According to you, people who do not sign your petition are gutless!
If you cannot convince another poster of your ideas through standard methods such as logic, evidence and eloquence of your posts, you instead resort to personal insult.
Banging on about "Stand up for yourself, be a man, show some guts" etc.


Obviously you are a wind up merchant.
Post away all you like about the board, but do not expect respect for your attempts at bullying.

Obsessed with multiple anti-board rants on Forums, regardless of thread title.
Which when channelled into action boil down into an obscure petition rather than working with established fans groups.

Whether you are a stooge for a takeover group, is known only to yourself.

Here is what I actually said

Here we go anyone who doesn't trust the Board no matter what they do isn't a real supporter. Gutless is what you are.

Gutless.

Where is the petition mentioned there? Or where do I refer to people who won't sign the petition as gutless. Or is making false charges natural for you. Are you jusrt a liar when the facts won't win your argument?

Prove your charges or be a man and and it they were incorrect or false.

No one is bullying you I am simply challenging to behave like an adult or yes a man (no offence to female posters) and admit when you are wrong.

You have levied false charges at me so either prove they are true or acknowledge they are wrong or else you are simply a coward and liar. And it has nothing whatsoever to do with you signing or not anything or believing or not anything. It has everything to do with deliberately making false statements about a person and refusing to admit you have done that or to provide proof you have not. You made the accusations Its up to you to prove they are right or admit they are wrong.

If you do neither you are truly every bit as gutless as you appear at this point.

[USMartin]

BTW to avoid admitting making one false statement you have made a second one - if you don't just admit you're wrong now you'll just bury yourself in falsehoods and lies.

[USMartin]

Can we talk about boobies now please?

We can talk about boobies later

[Naki_Gooner]

USMartin, what winds people up, is your insistence on bringing up the matter of "The Board" on unrelated or very loosely related threads.

No one says you cannot bring the subject up on appropriate threads.
No one thinks it an irrelevant subject.
No one is totally happy with the team at the moment, especially compared to a golden era of 1998 - 2006.

People on the Forum have helpfully suggested that you contact existing supporter groups, who have an infrastructure to raise complaints, and an established dialogue with and recognition by the club.

I also suggested low cost ways that you could publicise your concerns through New Media, ways in which your living in the USA rather than London (if indeed you do?) would not be a hindrance.

Instead of taking this advice, you reject it, and go on to berate people who do not share your views for lacking "Moral Fibre" by not flying your anti - Board flag themselves!

Recognise that some people do not share all of your views on the club, and do not see the club as an evil entity, and wish to work with the club for "Reform" rather than against it for "Revolution".

What a load of crap. Your helpful advice is every bit as genuine as your notion that supporters should lobby Parliament or the EU to ban debt-leveraged club purchases instead fo asking the Board to state that they would not sell the club as part of such as purchase. Indeed that is the sort of thing that would lead one to question someone's moral fibre something I have not in fact done really until now though you state otherwise.

Nor have I actually berated anyone to this point. Argued my views? Yes Questioned other views? Yes but berated anyone? No. That is simply untrue.

Anti-Board flag? Again that is patently dishonest. I have stated repeatedly that I have no problem with the Board seeking to run Arsenal at a profit and even at the Board receiving some of that profit as reward for their work and return on their investment and that I would support the current Board fully if they resumed the sort of investment that had taken place prior to 2005. I have no personal greivance with the Board. I am concerned they are not acting in the best interest of Arsenal Football Club . Its a shame you delibertaely continue to deliberately misrepresent what I say. YOUR moral fibre certainly is in question from me now.

Especially reading this wbit about working with the club for "reform". What is this? What sort of reform? Arsenalisation? Replacing "the Wonder of You?" You can't be serious here. You're the one who tried to discourage me earlier saying the Board wouldn't answer questions they didn't want to and won't answer most questions anyway. But now you say you're working with club for reform? What a sad joke. You'd rather let the Board destroy Arsenal then question the Board because you believe more in the Board and what it stands for now than the club itself . Consider this a berating.

You are merely a wind up merchant.

People other than myself actually took time and trouble to give your genuine advice, yet you respond to it with anger!

I do not consider you a genuine fan, nor genuine in your anti board concerns.

A petition?

LOL.

Quite how your are or what you are genuinely trying to accomplish I do not know, but it just reads as if you are here as some sort of equivalent of a Talksport presenter.

Here we go anyone who doesn't trust the Board no matter what they do isn't a real supporter. Gutless is what you are.

Gutless.

Supporters like you will be completely at fault if the club is sold to a debt-leveraged owner or will have hurt the club as much as the Board.

Two can play this game.

The thing is I can look myself in the mirror and know your false assdertion is wrong. If the club is sold to a debt leveraged owner supporters like you won't be able to look themselves in the eye because appraently you didn't liove Arsenal enough to try to stop that happening. Good luck living with that burden.

I have the luxury of hoping I am wrong. Do you?

WUM, an intelligent one, but, a WUM all the same.

[USMartin]

USMartin, what winds people up, is your insistence on bringing up the matter of "The Board" on unrelated or very loosely related threads.

No one says you cannot bring the subject up on appropriate threads.
No one thinks it an irrelevant subject.
No one is totally happy with the team at the moment, especially compared to a golden era of 1998 - 2006.

People on the Forum have helpfully suggested that you contact existing supporter groups, who have an infrastructure to raise complaints, and an established dialogue with and recognition by the club.

I also suggested low cost ways that you could publicise your concerns through New Media, ways in which your living in the USA rather than London (if indeed you do?) would not be a hindrance.

Instead of taking this advice, you reject it, and go on to berate people who do not share your views for lacking "Moral Fibre" by not flying your anti - Board flag themselves!

Recognise that some people do not share all of your views on the club, and do not see the club as an evil entity, and wish to work with the club for "Reform" rather than against it for "Revolution".

What a load of crap. Your helpful advice is every bit as genuine as your notion that supporters should lobby Parliament or the EU to ban debt-leveraged club purchases instead fo asking the Board to state that they would not sell the club as part of such as purchase. Indeed that is the sort of thing that would lead one to question someone's moral fibre something I have not in fact done really until now though you state otherwise.

Nor have I actually berated anyone to this point. Argued my views? Yes Questioned other views? Yes but berated anyone? No. That is simply untrue.

Anti-Board flag? Again that is patently dishonest. I have stated repeatedly that I have no problem with the Board seeking to run Arsenal at a profit and even at the Board receiving some of that profit as reward for their work and return on their investment and that I would support the current Board fully if they resumed the sort of investment that had taken place prior to 2005. I have no personal greivance with the Board. I am concerned they are not acting in the best interest of Arsenal Football Club . Its a shame you delibertaely continue to deliberately misrepresent what I say. YOUR moral fibre certainly is in question from me now.

Especially reading this wbit about working with the club for "reform". What is this? What sort of reform? Arsenalisation? Replacing "the Wonder of You?" You can't be serious here. You're the one who tried to discourage me earlier saying the Board wouldn't answer questions they didn't want to and won't answer most questions anyway. But now you say you're working with club for reform? What a sad joke. You'd rather let the Board destroy Arsenal then question the Board because you believe more in the Board and what it stands for now than the club itself . Consider this a berating.

You are merely a wind up merchant.

People other than myself actually took time and trouble to give your genuine advice, yet you respond to it with anger!

I do not consider you a genuine fan, nor genuine in your anti board concerns.

A petition?

LOL.

Quite how your are or what you are genuinely trying to accomplish I do not know, but it just reads as if you are here as some sort of equivalent of a Talksport presenter.

Here we go anyone who doesn't trust the Board no matter what they do isn't a real supporter. Gutless is what you are.

Gutless.

Supporters like you will be completely at fault if the club is sold to a debt-leveraged owner or will have hurt the club as much as the Board.

Two can play this game.

The thing is I can look myself in the mirror and know your false assdertion is wrong. If the club is sold to a debt leveraged owner supporters like you won't be able to look themselves in the eye because appraently you didn't liove Arsenal enough to try to stop that happening. Good luck living with that burden.

I have the luxury of hoping I am wrong. Do you?

WUM, an intelligent one, but, a WUM all the same.

Again prove it. Its your accusation so the burden of proof is on you. But I do appreciate the "intelligent" bit . But prove your claim or withdraw it . I can prove you wrong. But I haven't made an accusation so its on you.

[mrgnu1958]

20 pages by thursday

[RossieGooner]

20 pages by thursday

Bump !!

[USMartin]

20 pages by thursday

By Thursday? Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Think That's pushing it - maybe Saturday

[mrgnu1958]

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[Naki_Gooner]

What a load of crap. Your helpful advice is every bit as genuine as your notion that supporters should lobby Parliament or the EU to ban debt-leveraged club purchases instead fo asking the Board to state that they would not sell the club as part of such as purchase. Indeed that is the sort of thing that would lead one to question someone's moral fibre something I have not in fact done really until now though you state otherwise.

Nor have I actually berated anyone to this point. Argued my views? Yes Questioned other views? Yes but berated anyone? No. That is simply untrue.

Anti-Board flag? Again that is patently dishonest. I have stated repeatedly that I have no problem with the Board seeking to run Arsenal at a profit and even at the Board receiving some of that profit as reward for their work and return on their investment and that I would support the current Board fully if they resumed the sort of investment that had taken place prior to 2005. I have no personal greivance with the Board. I am concerned they are not acting in the best interest of Arsenal Football Club . Its a shame you delibertaely continue to deliberately misrepresent what I say. YOUR moral fibre certainly is in question from me now.

Especially reading this wbit about working with the club for "reform". What is this? What sort of reform? Arsenalisation? Replacing "the Wonder of You?" You can't be serious here. You're the one who tried to discourage me earlier saying the Board wouldn't answer questions they didn't want to and won't answer most questions anyway. But now you say you're working with club for reform? What a sad joke. You'd rather let the Board destroy Arsenal then question the Board because you believe more in the Board and what it stands for now than the club itself . Consider this a berating.

You are merely a wind up merchant.

People other than myself actually took time and trouble to give your genuine advice, yet you respond to it with anger!

I do not consider you a genuine fan, nor genuine in your anti board concerns.

A petition?

LOL.

Quite how your are or what you are genuinely trying to accomplish I do not know, but it just reads as if you are here as some sort of equivalent of a Talksport presenter.

Here we go anyone who doesn't trust the Board no matter what they do isn't a real supporter. Gutless is what you are.

Gutless.

Supporters like you will be completely at fault if the club is sold to a debt-leveraged owner or will have hurt the club as much as the Board.

Two can play this game.

The thing is I can look myself in the mirror and know your false assdertion is wrong. If the club is sold to a debt leveraged owner supporters like you won't be able to look themselves in the eye because appraently you didn't liove Arsenal enough to try to stop that happening. Good luck living with that burden.

I have the luxury of hoping I am wrong. Do you?

WUM, an intelligent one, but, a WUM all the same.

Again prove it. Its your accusation so the burden of proof is on you. But I do appreciate the "intelligent" bit . But prove your claim or withdraw it . I can prove you wrong. But I haven't made an accusation so its on you.

Boring change the record

[USMartin]

Of course asking you to tell the truth is boring.

Either back your cllaims or withdraw them.

What is this what you do blackmail people into silence. I don't think so.

I think its easier to lie about me than to prove I'm wrong for you.

Prove otherwise or else you are lying about me for no other reason than you cannot prove my views are wrong.

"Change the record" or you'll lie about me is what you appear to be saying. The hell with that - you'll have tio keep lying then if that's the best you are capable of.

I guess that's easier than accepting truths you don't like. Says more about you than it will will ever say about me.

If you feel I am being unfair to you the answer is simple prove I am what you have accused me of or admit your accusations are unfounded and false.

[Naki_Gooner]

...I've used less than 20 words, and you come up with this, I havent lied about you just expressed an opinion, do you have a history of paranoia? or do you just like to type?
















...and you are a WUM, there are about 5million threads where you've managed to wind someone up. tool