Its time to settle this

[USMartin]

. I guess maybe he just hates supporters who upset his view of the Board, me moreso than others obviously

I have had plenty of debates about the board etc with Augie, who is closer to your opinion than most, but non of them got personal from either side. There was no hate involved.

So ask yourself why you have got so worked up?

You have a personality problem.

Nope any problem I have with you is solved now. You have shown yourself for what you are. I gave you a chance to show you were a better man that that and you aren't. No problem.

[xDAVEYx]

just get over yourself mr martin, quartz is a respected, quality poster. you sir, are repetitive, confrontational and dull. quartz deserves respect purely because he has time and again read, digested and argued his points rationally, intelligently and politely.

seriously, chill the fuck out and climb down for that overly tall horse of yours

[augie]

. I guess maybe he just hates supporters who upset his view of the Board, me moreso than others obviously

I have had plenty of debates about the board etc with Augie, who is closer to your opinion than most, but non of them got personal from either side. There was no hate involved.

I have had far more intense discussions on recent political issues too, with Cockerill's Chin and others, without the kind of accusations and behaviour shown by yourself.

So ask yourself why you have got so worked up?

Is that a compliment or an insult ?

[USMartin]

just get over yourself mr martin, quartz is a respected, quality poster. you sir, are repetitive, confrontational and dull. quartz deserves respect purely because he has time and again read, digested and argued his points rationally, intelligently and politely.

seriously, chill the fuck out and climb down for that overly tall horse of yours

So deliberately lying about someone's background than not having the courage to either prove their claims are true or to retract them is your definition of polite.

I think that speaks for itself really.

As I said the matter is resolved. I gave QG the chance to make things right he refused. You're a bit late to be bothered by this aren't you?

[olgitgooner]

Martin,

I hope you won't take this as a personal attack on you. It is not.

I have to say that, in my opinion, you are obsessed by your view of the Arsenal board and their business strategy. Equally, you are now overly concerned about comments made by a fellow forum member.

To be totally honest, I originally thought that you were a paid agent of some Usmanov/Dein PR initiative. Sent here to sow the seeds of discontent amongst the Arsenal faithful. I changed my mind on that one. Because you said that even Usmanov might buy the club with borrowed money.

It has been mentioned by others on here that you have criticised the board at every opportunity on threads which are totally unrelated to the subject.

Also that your posts are, shall we say, fucking long.

Now, for gawd's sake, lighten up. Post something good on the tit threads. Crack a joke. Or tell us about how cuntish Barcelona are.

Oh. And if you reply to this post, please make it nice and concise.

By the way, there is an excellent post in the "further discussion" section. Posted by Herd (I think) which puts a fair opinion in a nut shell.

[Red107]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPIsTKpA ... re=related

[olgitgooner]

Just found it......



PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:40 am Post subject: THE ARSENAL BOARD ARE SHYSTERS Reply with quote
The Arsenal Board has been in decline since the death of old man Dennis Hillwood.
He was a man of great vision and the club was 95 pct owned by him,the other shares given out were mere tokens he distributed.

Peter Hillwood is an arrogant twat who lives in the past and is a poor poor shadow of his father despite a similar education and career.

At a time when TV was first creeping its way into football he sold 17 percent of the club to david dein ,a wide boy chancer with a very dodgy pedigree in sugar trading.

Dein then took over the club for between 2/3 million but he didnt have enough money to even do that so he got his south-african diamond dealing mate fizeman into the deal and the rest is history.

The club was making 20/30 million pounds a year at Highbury and we were all happy there.
We never and I mean never needed to move but the people in charge saw personal money in the Highbury redevelopement and theyve been trying to stuff their pockets ever since.

They have also been driving the share price up by developing rivals for the club in the yank and the russian,dein couldnt wait and cashed in but fizeman clings on even though he knows the shares are worth much less than the 10,000 pounds a share he hopes to get by prompting one of the two protatganists into taking their share stake above the magic 30 percent mark.

None of them give a toss about Arsenal football club or its fans only about how much they can squeeze out of the franchise .

I hope they all go to the hell they deserve !

Dennis will be turning in his grave !

[USMartin]

Martin,

I hope you won't take this as a personal attack on you. It is not.

I have to say that, in my opinion, you are obsessed by your view of the Arsenal board and their business strategy. Equally, you are now overly concerned about comments made by a fellow forum member.

To be totally honest, I originally thought that you were a paid agent of some Usmanov/Dein PR initiative. Sent here to sow the seeds of discontent amongst the Arsenal faithful. I changed my mind on that one. Because you said that even Usmanov might buy the club with borrowed money.

It has been mentioned by others on here that you have criticised the board at every opportunity on threads which are totally unrelated to the subject.

Also that your posts are, shall we say, fucking long.

Now, for gawd's sake, lighten up. Post something good on the tit threads. Crack a joke. Or tell us about how cuntish Barcelona are.

Oh. And if you reply to this post, please make it nice and concise.

By the way, there is an excellent post in the "further discussion" section. Posted by Herd (I think) which puts a fair opinion in a nut shell.

Actually I've done many of those things already. Funny how nobody sees but what they want they want to see. I mean no disrespect but seriously You can look up all my posts and you will see that while your depoitcion of many of them is bang-on that in fact you miss a lot of the other posts like the ones you suggest I try..

I think this is what happens when people make up their minds about someone or their views or even how they express them - suddenly its all one simple thing - al USMartin posts are LONG POSTS ABOUT THE BOARD, and that's it - nothing else.

Seriously there is a way to locate and review every post by a single poster. Try it, then tell me what all my posts are or are all about. I'm not being rude at all. I have made plenty of the posts of the sort you suggest and if you want to you can read them.Maybe you and others have failed to see them because they don't fit with the "programmed image" of me?

[olgitgooner]

Martin, your posts are all too long.

Really, your opinions are as valid as everyone else's.

But seriously, you take yourself too seriously.

[USMartin]

Martin, your posts are all too long.

Really, your opinions are as valid as everyone else's.

But seriously, you take yourself too seriously.

You say that without even even making any effort to ascertain its truth. Like I say you can check. Otherwise you're just not being honest with yourself. I don't care here because like I say you r intentions seem reasonable enough, but seriously you offrered me some advice that was based not on facts but your interpretation of them and now you're unwilling to check the veracity of it. How would you feel if someone cirtiqued you personally but refused to examine what he was actually critiquing?

[PI7ES]

Is this US guy for real?

I have never seen a more boring poster on any arsenal message board than this guy.


Deffinatly a WUM.

[Reg Niseth]

USM - when you first informed the woeld of your planned petition, many posters, myself included, suggested the best way to be heard was to join an existing fans group with a voice recognised by the board.

A group where you can use your debating skills and influence to put the relevant questions to the board. For whetever reason you chose to ignore those well intentioned suggestions and embark on your own campaign.

On another thread I backed your right to express your opinion but can't you see it's all become a little boring and in light of the WC very little transfer action has taken place yet we've still made signings and are linked with others. My advice would be to wait until Sept 1st and if the signings which we all lnow MUST be made have not materialised, then your petition should gain support.

I suggest again that you join the AST as they are probably the group more suited to your line of thinking.

There are many questions tje board need to answer and they will be held accountable

[Dan_85]

I've refrained from commenting until now but seriously, can we give USMartin a temporary 7 day ban or something to calm the fuck down?! I'm sick of having to wade through 10 new threads of the same old regurgitated bashing of the board every time I log on.

Sure, the board have a lot to answer for but what's the point in keep re-hashing your points over and over on here? Even if we did all agree with everything you say nothing is gonna change at Board level because a few people discussed it on a forum.

Sorry to be blunt, but it's pissing me off

[olgitgooner]

Wouldn't give a shit, Martin.

And I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to trawl through the shit that I've written, just to arrive at a valid opinion of it.

[USMartin]

Wouldn't give a shit, Martin.

And I certainly wouldn't expect anyone to trawl through the shit that I've written, just to arrive at a valid opinion of it.

Then with all due respect who are you to give me advice? I'm sorry, but you advised to do things I have in fact done and do as if I haven't done any thing but make one long post on the Board over and over as is your pre-conceived notion and you have ignored and put out of your mind posts that don't conform to it its not my job to to ake advice to do what I am already doing.

I have no problem with you disagreeing with my views or how I present them. I even I agree the veast majority of my posts are long and about the Board. But if you're going to advise on what and where I should post have the decec=ncy to at least check and see if I haven't done so already before telling me that I haven't.