Koscielny...

Lethal · Post by **Lethal** » Sat Aug 07, 2010 11:11 pm

would have been an interesting signing last summer as third choice,but why would AW do something that makes sense

we are fucked

Mr FINSBURY PARK GOONER · Sun Aug 08, 2010 8:59 am

Guys played one season of top flight football

next season gonna be a learning curve.

This is why WENGER is seriously taking the piss.

No goalkeeper, no name defenders. no hope, no cups.

djhdjh · Post by **djhdjh** » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:07 am

Relax, Piers Morgan says he's superb.

In seriousness, let's at least give him a chance until he's played a few proper games (Kos, not Morgan).

Nos89 · Post by **Nos89** » Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:33 pm

Good to see he got his own goal in early in pre-season. Hopefully that settled him in now.

Isn't it strange that when any team signs a defender he scores an og within the first ten games?

I_AM_GOONER · Post by **I_AM_GOONER** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:31 pm

you can't bury a player on the back of a couple of pre season games.

I remember Vermaelen at Barnet last season looked awful against a 40yr old Paul Furlong.

Anyway Kos looked alright in the AC Milan game

Still hope there is a 1st choice centre back coming in anyway.

biglunn · Post by **biglunn** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:45 pm

I_AM_GOONER wrote:you can't bury a player on the back of a couple of pre season games.

I remember Vermaelen at Barnet last season looked awful against a 40yr old Paul Furlong.

Anyway Kos looked alright in the AC Milan game

Still hope there is a 1st choice centre back coming in anyway.

Agree with you - cannot judge any new player on pre season. Kos is actually quite pricey for a player with little top level experience and not very obvious qualities, so arsene and the scouts must have found something - hopefully like vermaalen.

But it is SUICIDAL to go into this season without an experienced defender. We have lost Gallas & Campbell - now that is a LOT of experience.

Post by **Barriecuda** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 4:44 pm

biglunn wrote:
I_AM_GOONER wrote:you can't bury a player on the back of a couple of pre season games.

I remember Vermaelen at Barnet last season looked awful against a 40yr old Paul Furlong.

Anyway Kos looked alright in the AC Milan game

Still hope there is a 1st choice centre back coming in anyway.
Agree with you - cannot judge any new player on pre season. Kos is actually quite pricey for a player with little top level experience and not very obvious qualities, so arsene and the scouts must have found something - hopefully like vermaalen.

But it is SUICIDAL to go into this season without an experienced defender. We have lost Gallas & Campbell - now that is a LOT of experience.

You might argue that experience breeds complacency.

I'm almost excited for the young up-and-comer. Like Vermaelen, I hope he plays with the heart and passion that Arsenal defenders were once famous for. Campbell thinks he's too good and Gallas is just a lazy, money-driven c*nt.

I think people should be a little less cynical, sure Kos is not ideal as a first-string CB considering it's his first year of EPL, but sometimes the young players are the ones who are willing to give everything they possibly have to try and bring their team glory. TV5 plays like that, and some of us are already asking for him to be captain... give LK6 a chance to do it too.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Mon Aug 09, 2010 5:03 pm

Barriecuda wrote:
biglunn wrote:
I_AM_GOONER wrote:you can't bury a player on the back of a couple of pre season games.

I remember Vermaelen at Barnet last season looked awful against a 40yr old Paul Furlong.

Anyway Kos looked alright in the AC Milan game

Still hope there is a 1st choice centre back coming in anyway.
Agree with you - cannot judge any new player on pre season. Kos is actually quite pricey for a player with little top level experience and not very obvious qualities, so arsene and the scouts must have found something - hopefully like vermaalen.

But it is SUICIDAL to go into this season without an experienced defender. We have lost Gallas & Campbell - now that is a LOT of experience.
You might argue that experience breeds complacency.

You might....but its largely bollocks

Barriecuda wrote: I'm almost excited for the young up-and-comer. Like Vermaelen, I hope he plays with the heart and passion that Arsenal defenders were once famous for. Campbell thinks he's too good and Gallas is just a lazy, money-driven c*nt.

Come on - while we all hope for the best I think this highlights our problem - everything is about money to Arsenal, to its Board, even its supporters, and sometimes you well you have to pay for quality.

Barriecuda wrote: I think people should be a little less cynical, sure Kos is not ideal as a first-string CB considering it's his first year of EPL, but sometimes the young players are the ones who are willing to give everything they possibly have to try and bring their team glory. TV5 plays like that, and some of us are already asking for him to be captain... give LK6 a chance to do it too.

This might make sense if Koscieny were a mid-feilder converted to center back playing next to waorld-class defender in his prime as happened with Kolo being paired with Sol Campbell. Vermaelen is very very good but not yet at the level Sol was when Mr. Wenger put Toure out with him nor is the defensive help in front or in back of them now nearly as good as it was then, so its not quite as brilliant a move as we might hope I fear.

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:11 pm

Hold me hands up here, Kos was one of the few positives to come out of that Liverpool game. Looked very good.

digger · Post by **digger** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:12 pm

selsdon wrote:Hold me hands up here, Kos was one of the few positives to come out of that Liverpool game. Looked very good.

Yeah, looked solid. Harsh red card, didn't deserve that blot on his record.

We also only have one fit centre back available for Blackpool next week.

BournemouthRED · Post by **BournemouthRED** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:15 pm

selsdon wrote:Hold me hands up here, Kos was one of the few positives to come out of that Liverpool game. Looked very good.

Yeah he did well

mrgnu1958 · Post by **mrgnu1958** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:15 pm

selsdon wrote:Hold me hands up here, Kos was one of the few positives to come out of that Liverpool game. Looked very good.

Sels"sey..thats probably THE 1st positive post ive seen from you.

Thats NO critisism btw..i love your posts.
KOS is indeed the Dogs Bollocks!!

1989 · Post by **1989** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:18 pm

Looked surprisingly decent in the air.

Metalheadz Gooner · Post by **Metalheadz Gooner** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:24 pm

like the look of him. He must be one of the fastest CB in world football to keep up with Torres. Loved that bit of defending.

Arsenal Till I Die · Post by **Arsenal Till I Die** » Sun Aug 15, 2010 5:31 pm

LOL so much for all you ''Kos is shit'' boo boys.

I knew Kos was at least half decent by his performance against AC Milan in the Emirates Cup, he looked strong then and did today.

Exter cred for the man after we all thought he broke his leg.

True beast.