Fulham's Stockdale Injured - Schwarzer deal definitely off?

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:03 pm

donaldo wrote:
USMartin wrote:
DB10GOONER wrote:We've been here before Martin...
True - we have been every summer since 2005.

I think its time we actually address why we're here instead of just constantly doing this because it doesn''t help in the end.
As long as 60,000 roll up every week do you think our board and Wenger give two fucks.Its a vote of confidence in what they are doing

I am afraid that is spot-on. But I hate the idea of a boycott

Post by **I Hate Hleb** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:05 pm

Yeah. Especially when you're chasing the game and need quick runs!!

mrgnu1958 · Post by **mrgnu1958** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:05 pm

mrgnu1958 · Post by **mrgnu1958** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:06 pm

northbankbren · Post by **northbankbren** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:08 pm

BOYCOTT THE BOYCOTT

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:08 pm

mrgnu1958 wrote:

Well I wouldn't boycott her - unless that's the latest slang in which case then I absolutely would

SWLGooner · Post by **SWLGooner** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:13 pm

Sorry Martin but I'm afraid there's already a boycott stopping you...

U.F.G Anfield '89 · Post by **U.F.G Anfield '89** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:23 pm

USMartin wrote:
mrgnu1958 wrote:
Well I wouldn't boycott her - unless that's the latest slang in which case then I absolutely would

sorry to break this to you but she's in PETA, I think that means that she prefers animals

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:46 pm

U.F.G Anfield '89 wrote:
USMartin wrote:
mrgnu1958 wrote:
Well I wouldn't boycott her - unless that's the latest slang in which case then I absolutely would
sorry to break this to you but she's in PETA, I think that means that she prefers animals

I've been called an animal by a girl or two

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:07 pm

USMartin

You have your big idea on the board and you stick to it.

If someone disagrees, you call them disingenous, and twist their words.

If you call that tactic winning an argument, then you are utterly lost.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:38 pm

QuartzGooner wrote:USMartin

You have your big idea on the board and you stick to it.

If someone disagrees, you call them disingenous, and twist their words.

If you call that tactic winning an argument, then you are utterly lost.

Thank you for massively over-simplifying things to mis-represent me.

What is disingenuous is making arguments that are disingebnuous. Like say we have to wait util 2050 to judge the impact of ther Highbury re-development in the same way we had to wait to judge the impact of building the East and West Stands Even though in fact - the re-development is already fully paid for and has provided nearly every penny of profit it will to the club, while the stands took over 40 years to pay for and provided thirty more years of profits after that.

Arguing they should be viewed the same way disnguously suggests the projects are the same in nature and circumstance.

If you made the same sort of argument in defence of my views it would be every bit as disngenuous, because it would still be a false comparison.

Just as your whole Silvetsre being let go to save money was disngenuous because I was not saying he was and that was clear from the facts about Gallas and Sol Campbell - and no disrespect but I'll take Sol's word about why he left Arsenal over yours, thank you. You even acknowledged Gallas was let go largely for financial reasons, yet you only refer to Silvester to try and avoid arguing the real issue. You mid-represented my views by dishonesly selecting Silvestre to make a point. That again is disingenuous.

You have made plenty of reasonable points and arguments. The problem is you'll make any argument you can even if its disingenuous. That's on you. It's not my fault that you make disingenuous arguments just to try to defend the Board.

redstevo · Post by **redstevo** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:57 pm

just out of interest,

DO YOU HAVE TO HIJACK EVERY SINGLE THREAD!!!

In a thread about tits i'm sure you'll mention 2005 and blame the board that some of the knockers aren't big enough!

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:01 pm

USMartin wrote:
What is disingenuous is making arguments that are disingebnuous. Like say we have to wait util 2050 to judge the impact of ther Highbury re-development in the same way we had to wait to judge the impact of building the East and West Stands

I said we do have to wait until 2050 to judge the impact of the Highbury Redevelopment and the new stadium.

Yes, I believe that.

You mentioned Silvestre, not me. I only responded to it.

And yes, I do not believe we lost Sol or Gallas over money.

They were offered deals, they chose not to take them. The club cannot offer silly money to two players both of whom is over 33.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:34 pm

QuartzGooner wrote:
USMartin wrote:
What is disingenuous is making arguments that are disingebnuous. Like say we have to wait util 2050 to judge the impact of ther Highbury re-development in the same way we had to wait to judge the impact of building the East and West Stands
I said we do have to wait until 2050 to judge the impact of the Highbury Redevelopment and the new stadium.

Yes, I believe that.

The why not say this

QuartzGooner wrote: I said we do have to wait until 2050 to judge the impact of the Highbury Redevelopment and the new stadium even though the redevelopment was paid for within five years and has produced all the profits it will, while the stands took forty years to pay for and produced thirty more years of profits after that.

That part in bold I added â€“ it was what I said and you edited fom my comments above. I wonder why you would do that? Why avoid that comparison?

QuartzGooner wrote: You mentioned Silvestre, not me. I only responded to it.

No you deniherately selected that name from several listed to deliberately mis-represent my views yet again. You even avoided referring to Gallas who acknowledged left for financial reasons.

QuartzGooner wrote: And yes, I do not believe we lost Sol or Gallas over money.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... 58&cc=5901

"I cannot speak highly enough of Arsene Wenger and the way he brought me back to Arsenal, and yes I thought I would have stayed," he said. "I was made an offer for another year, but the manager had a certain budget to spend on wages and a month had gone by and nothing had moved on, so that was it.â€

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:43 pm

You listed a bunch of players we lost over money.

I dismissed all but two as leaving for that reason.

I commented on every single one of the players listed.

Yet you claim I only commented on Silvestre?

Just another badly argued and bizarre post from you.

Mr Word Twister.

You are incapable of putting a proper argument together.