Get your coat arsene you useless twat!

[tinpot lane]

How can anyone have the nerve to call Wenger a 'prick' and a 'c**t', show some bloody respect to a man who has done so much to our club.

I have no respect for someone who constantly lies to the fans who pay his wages the way he does.

I will call him whatever the fuck I want. I'm not a Wengerite and to be honest I couldn't give a fuck about him as a person. Why the fuck should I care about someone who pisses me off all the time?

Blah Blah Blah....

I take it just another "ONE ARSENE WENGER" mug then?

Don't forget you're still paying his wages while he constantly feeds you bullshit and mugs you off.

[WalesGooner71]

How can anyone have the nerve to call Wenger a 'prick' and a 'c**t', show some bloody respect to a man who has done so much to our club.

At the end of the day you need both the player and the selling club to come to terms in order for them to sell a player, we proved that with Cesc. Only when money talks can players hold clubs to ransom and we don't hold the kind of money that some others do.
The transfer market was dead this summer, look who Liverpool ended up with for christs sake, no one was selling their players and if we couldn't get our target then did you really want us chasing after anyone and everyone in an act of desperation like Spurs have been today?

Agreed

To WalesGooner71: I understand what you're saying about Koscielny, but remember Ian Wright, there are plenty of players out there who are slow burners and don't get going until a bit later. Wenger seems to think that Koscielny is one of those and apparently he wasn't the only manager looking at the guy, even though he'd only played oneseason in France's top division.

I am quite willing to believe that Wenger may have unearthed another gem and I will be more than happy if he turns out to be as good as Verminator. What I can't understand is how a club of Arsenal's standing need to be scratching around looking for hidden gems in the bargain basement!!??

When I was a young lad Arsenal signed Charlie Nicholas - I can remember coming out of school and getting the bus to Oakwood station and hearing that we had got him. Everyone wanted him and he signed for us. I was over the moon and really gave my mates who supported other lesser teams some stick that Arsenal were able to snatch this great player when everyone else wanted him. Thats my most vivid memory of a signing and perhaps getting Denis Bergkamp and Campbell on a free were close but my point is that I felt like a winner before any of these players had even kicked a ball for us!! When I went to Highbury my chest was pumped out with pride at these great players who at joined us!! Not just joined us but consciously chose us over others!!

I know times change and there are some mega rich owners about now who can snap up anything with a pulse but we are not a poor club - we are not a west ham or sunderland - looking for scraps - WE ARE ARSENAL for God's sake. We have always been the in the gentry of clubs - cock sure Londoners who had class and cash - we got what we wanted by paying top wages and fees and then completed the deal while they walked around our marble halls and marvelled at our history??

Ok - so maybe we do now play in a concrete bowl and we can be outbid for the very highest level players - its not like I expect us to sign Messi?? But we should be able to get a quality player such as a goal keeper ? Ok so Chelsea are not about to let us have Cech no matter what we offer but can the same be said about Lloris of Lyon??? Surely he could have been got even if it meant pushing out the boat and paying £20million??

There can be no more excuses - we are not a pauper club waiting for the next Oligarch or Sheikh to take a fancy to premiership football - we are in good shape financially and for all the problems playing in a soul less bowl it does make good financial sense!!

If the current directors and management are not up to the job then lets welcome a change if that's whats needed. The club will be here long after we and them are gone. WE ARE ARSENAL so lets hope these so called experts start to look at some of the romance of our great club rather than just the bottom line of the balance sheet!!!!

[goonermarc]

How can anyone have the nerve to call Wenger a 'prick' and a 'c**t', show some bloody respect to a man who has done so much to our club.

At the end of the day you need both the player and the selling club to come to terms in order for them to sell a player, we proved that with Cesc. Only when money talks can players hold clubs to ransom and we don't hold the kind of money that some others do.
The transfer market was dead this summer, look who Liverpool ended up with for christs sake, no one was selling their players and if we couldn't get our target then did you really want us chasing after anyone and everyone in an act of desperation like Spurs have been today?

That is exactly the line of bullshit thought that wenger comes up with Why dont you tell the whole story about barca trying to buy cesc.........when they realised that they were not going to be able to buy him they identified a different target (mascherano) and proceeded to buy him instead. This gobshite targetted one keeper and had no back up list and left it until the 11th hour again to try and clinch this deal by which time we were 3 weeks into the season and fulham had lost a player with a serious injury We did not wenger to be just chasing anyone but we did expect him to upgrade the keepers position and there is a bus load of options between almunia's level (shit) and top quality so focusing on one target and one target alone is ridiculous.

Isn't Mascherano a replacement for Yaya who will fight for the Busquets position?

Wenger has always firstly tried to install belief in his team, it's what our great teams of the last decade had in abundance. Belief isn't gained by panic buying in a transfer window, surely the way Spurs acted today in the market gives off a negative vibe amongst the current squad they have, almost as if the manager doesn't yet believe they are good enough. That's what Wenger will never do, sometimes it's blind faith but he will always install belief in the team, he will never come out and say he was after a new number one as he knew there was a chance we couldn't get Schwarzer, afterall no one is gonna let their number one goalkeeper go without a fight.
How would we be going into the season with bids turned down for Schwarzer, Lloris, Frey etc etc today with Almunia knowing this, now atleast he has played a few games and even with an armband on.

We were supposed to have a new keeper, but we don't and atleast we don't have one crippled in confidence now.

As for those calling for him to be sacked, i would love to know how any other manager could deal with our club in this current predicament. I'm realising this more and more with the mediocre appointment Liverpool have made with Roy Hodgson, it could be us if Wenger left.

[Bring Back Pires]

How can anyone have the nerve to call Wenger a 'prick' and a 'c**t', show some bloody respect to a man who has done so much to our club.

No. He's a prick and a *word censored*, and all he's done in recent years is destroy the club.

If this list of convincing defeats doesn't highlight just how ill-prepared we are to compete with top teams - and more criminally, that AW refuses to learn from his mistakes - then may God help you.

Arsene Wenger's Resume, 2008-2010

Tottenham 5-1 Arsenal, League Cup, January 2008
Torn apart by our local rivals. Gives no respect to the league cup, and could seemingly care less about the fan's passionate hate toward the Spuds and their fans.

Man Utd 4-0 Arsenal, FA Cup, February 2008
Same deal, different stadium. 9,000 of our fans spent good time and money travelling to another hated rival, and our star players are left on the bench. Once again, no respect to the competition if shown, and the fans are leaving by the 70-minute mark.

Chelsea 2-1 Arsenal, FA Cup, April 2009
We somehow make it to Wembley, for the first time since it's rebuilt - once again against a close rival - and our in-form player (Arshavin) is inexplicably dropped. We predictably lose.

Man Utd 1-0 Arsenal, Champions League, April 2009
A pitiful display in which I don't think we managed one shot. On any other day, we would've been tonked.

Arsenal 1-3 Man Utd, Champions League, May 2009
Trounced in ten minutes. Never stood a hope in hell, and the 'men to boys' analogy could never be more appropriate. AW says it was his worst experience as manager of the club. He did nothing to address the problems the following summer.

Arsenal 1-4 Chelsea, May 2009
Just days after the above, we once again get destroyed - at our own stadium. Apparently, the wake-up call wasn't served, as this dross continued for another season.

Man City 3-0 Arsenal, League Cup, December 2009
Not sensing that fans still caring about the competition to an extent (in that thousands travelled there), and that our opponents were putting out a first-team side, AW throws in the towel and gets all stroppy about it in the process.

Arsenal 1-3 Man Utd, January 2010
Same deal as last season. NOTHING's CHANGED. No lesson learnt, and another thrashing.

Chelsea 2-0 Arsenal, February 2010
Another week on, another sound beating.

Barcelona 4-1 Arsenal, Champions League, April 2010
Another capitulation on the grand stage, when it matters. Not even close, quite frankly. Six goals conceded in two games against the Spanish side.

Tottenham 2-1 Arsenal, April 2010
Top response from the CL defeat. Lose to the Spuds and risk get overtaken by them on the last day of the season.

Wigan 3-2 Arsenal, April 2010
Clearly bored of losing the traditional way, and to decent teams, AW's group of wasters chuck the game in the last ten minutes. Seemingly exasperated after the match, AW looks sure to mix things up. Nothing happens.


Having sat through this absolute embarrasment for the past three seasons, I'm not holding back any longer. Nothing is changing, and Wenger will continue to fail for as long as he's crazily allowed to stay in charge. We can't compete with the top teams (or Wigan, apparently), and Wenger makes no attempt to remedy the issues. Almunia is the tip of the iceberg, and an obvious example of just how stubborn and deluded AW is.

If you think me slating Wenger, having watched all this, is unreasonable, you need your fucking head checked.

[Robsy]

Oakwood. That's my neck of the woods. I know what you're saying about Charlie, but, there is nothing wrong with signing an unknown every now and again.

I also think that clubs like Cithee and the Chavs have turned the market and if we go after a big name, we'll get out bid. I'm also not sure that spending the big money actually gets you the best players nowadays. It often just means the agents have done their jobs well. Far too many 'big' players have little or no loyalty to the clubs they play for and as soon as it goes wrong they look for a way out.

[Robsy]

[goonermarc]

'Destroyed' our club?

Quarter finals of the Champions League again last season and a decent title push until late on.

You need a reality check mate.

[Bring Back Pires]

'Destroyed' our club?

Quarter finals of the Champions League again last season and a decent title push until late on.

You need a reality check mate.

What use is a CL QF and a title push every season if there's never any chance of overturning the key teams and actually winning?

It's just failure after failure, and shows no signs of turning around.

Do you honestly think that AW's done anything in the off-season to suggest that we can now beat Chelsea, Man Utd, and Barca? All those 3-0 and 4-1 defeats over the past two years aren't coincidental.

[Louder]

How can anyone have the nerve to call Wenger a 'prick' and a 'c**t', show some bloody respect to a man who has done so much to our club.

No. He's a prick and a c**t, and all he's done in recent years is destroy the club.

If this list of convincing defeats doesn't highlight just how ill-prepared we are to compete with top teams - and more criminally, that AW refuses to learn from his mistakes - then may God help you.

Arsene Wenger's Resume, 2008-2010

Tottenham 5-1 Arsenal, League Cup, January 2008
Torn apart by our local rivals. Gives no respect to the league cup, and could seemingly care less about the fan's passionate hate toward the Spuds and their fans.

Man Utd 4-0 Arsenal, FA Cup, February 2008
Same deal, different stadium. 9,000 of our fans spent good time and money travelling to another hated rival, and our star players are left on the bench. Once again, no respect to the competition if shown, and the fans are leaving by the 70-minute mark.

Chelsea 2-1 Arsenal, FA Cup, April 2009
We somehow make it to Wembley, for the first time since it's rebuilt - once again against a close rival - and our in-form player (Arshavin) is inexplicably dropped. We predictably lose.

Man Utd 1-0 Arsenal, Champions League, April 2009
A pitiful display in which I don't think we managed one shot. On any other day, we would've been tonked.

Arsenal 1-3 Man Utd, Champions League, May 2009
Trounced in ten minutes. Never stood a hope in hell, and the 'men to boys' analogy could never be more appropriate. AW says it was his worst experience as manager of the club. He did nothing to address the problems the following summer.

Arsenal 1-4 Chelsea, May 2009
Just days after the above, we once again get destroyed - at our own stadium. Apparently, the wake-up call wasn't served, as this dross continued for another season.

Man City 3-0 Arsenal, League Cup, December 2009
Not sensing that fans still caring about the competition to an extent (in that thousands travelled there), and that our opponents were putting out a first-team side, AW throws in the towel and gets all stroppy about it in the process.

Arsenal 1-3 Man Utd, January 2010
Same deal as last season. NOTHING's CHANGED. No lesson learnt, and another thrashing.

Chelsea 2-0 Arsenal, February 2010
Another week on, another sound beating.

Barcelona 4-1 Arsenal, Champions League, April 2010
Another capitulation on the grand stage, when it matters. Not even close, quite frankly. Six goals conceded in two games against the Spanish side.

Tottenham 2-1 Arsenal, April 2010
Top response from the CL defeat. Lose to the Spuds and risk get overtaken by them on the last day of the season.

Wigan 3-2 Arsenal, April 2010
Clearly bored of losing the traditional way, and to decent teams, AW's group of wasters chuck the game in the last ten minutes. Seemingly exasperated after the match, AW looks sure to mix things up. Nothing happens.


Having sat through this absolute embarrasment for the past three seasons, I'm not holding back any longer. Nothing is changing, and Wenger will continue to fail for as long as he's crazily allowed to stay in charge. We can't compete with the top teams (or Wigan, apparently), and Wenger makes no attempt to remedy the issues. Almunia is the tip of the iceberg, and an obvious example of just how stubborn and deluded AW is.

If you think me slating Wenger, having watched all this, is unreasonable, you need your fucking head checked.

SPOILT FAN ALERT, I think we need to change your nappy little man

[donaldo]

How can anyone have the nerve to call Wenger a 'prick' and a 'c**t', show some bloody respect to a man who has done so much to our club.

No. He's a prick and a c**t, and all he's done in recent years is destroy the club.

If this list of convincing defeats doesn't highlight just how ill-prepared we are to compete with top teams - and more criminally, that AW refuses to learn from his mistakes - then may God help you.

Arsene Wenger's Resume, 2008-2010

Tottenham 5-1 Arsenal, League Cup, January 2008
Torn apart by our local rivals. Gives no respect to the league cup, and could seemingly care less about the fan's passionate hate toward the Spuds and their fans.

Man Utd 4-0 Arsenal, FA Cup, February 2008
Same deal, different stadium. 9,000 of our fans spent good time and money travelling to another hated rival, and our star players are left on the bench. Once again, no respect to the competition if shown, and the fans are leaving by the 70-minute mark.

Chelsea 2-1 Arsenal, FA Cup, April 2009
We somehow make it to Wembley, for the first time since it's rebuilt - once again against a close rival - and our in-form player (Arshavin) is inexplicably dropped. We predictably lose.

Man Utd 1-0 Arsenal, Champions League, April 2009
A pitiful display in which I don't think we managed one shot. On any other day, we would've been tonked.

Arsenal 1-3 Man Utd, Champions League, May 2009
Trounced in ten minutes. Never stood a hope in hell, and the 'men to boys' analogy could never be more appropriate. AW says it was his worst experience as manager of the club. He did nothing to address the problems the following summer.

Arsenal 1-4 Chelsea, May 2009
Just days after the above, we once again get destroyed - at our own stadium. Apparently, the wake-up call wasn't served, as this dross continued for another season.

Man City 3-0 Arsenal, League Cup, December 2009
Not sensing that fans still caring about the competition to an extent (in that thousands travelled there), and that our opponents were putting out a first-team side, AW throws in the towel and gets all stroppy about it in the process.

Arsenal 1-3 Man Utd, January 2010
Same deal as last season. NOTHING's CHANGED. No lesson learnt, and another thrashing.

Chelsea 2-0 Arsenal, February 2010
Another week on, another sound beating.

Barcelona 4-1 Arsenal, Champions League, April 2010
Another capitulation on the grand stage, when it matters. Not even close, quite frankly. Six goals conceded in two games against the Spanish side.

Tottenham 2-1 Arsenal, April 2010
Top response from the CL defeat. Lose to the Spuds and risk get overtaken by them on the last day of the season.

Wigan 3-2 Arsenal, April 2010
Clearly bored of losing the traditional way, and to decent teams, AW's group of wasters chuck the game in the last ten minutes. Seemingly exasperated after the match, AW looks sure to mix things up. Nothing happens.


Having sat through this absolute embarrasment for the past three seasons, I'm not holding back any longer. Nothing is changing, and Wenger will continue to fail for as long as he's crazily allowed to stay in charge. We can't compete with the top teams (or Wigan, apparently), and Wenger makes no attempt to remedy the issues. Almunia is the tip of the iceberg, and an obvious example of just how stubborn and deluded AW is.

If you think me slating Wenger, having watched all this, is unreasonable, you need your fucking head checked.

Brilliant post BBP

Sadly the AKB brigade will have an excuse for everyone of them defeats in the big matches just like Wenger always has an excuse.The ref,The pitch,the weather,the opposition was too physical.The one excuse you will never hear Wenger say is "We lost because it was my fault"

[mrgnu1958]

Lets NOT blame any defenders eh

[Bring Back Pires]

SPOILT FAN ALERT, I think we need to change your nappy little man

So I'm not allowed to be bothered by the fact that we get soundly beaten by our main competitors every time we play them?

Because correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that the point of football? Beating your competitors?

If they were narrow or unlucky defeats, then I'd have to accept it. But that's not the case. We're a real class below the teams I've mentioned, and I don't see any progress being made in the slightest that we will have what it takes to compete with these clubs any time soon.

All that's changed is the date.

As many others here have summarised - defeats, and a lack of silverware, aren't the main cause of aggravation. The main annoyance is the failure to address our areas of weakness and blindly hope for improvement nevertheless.

[goonermarc]

Have Man Utd done anything in the off-season to overcome Chelsea?

Teams aren't just made up of eleven individuals, they're developed over time. Who did Chelsea add to their team which made them significantly better last year?
No one, they were built into that unit from playing with each other over time.

[1989]

How can anyone have the nerve to call Wenger a 'prick' and a 'c**t', show some bloody respect to a man who has done so much to our club.

No. He's a prick and a c**t, and all he's done in recent years is destroy the club.

If this list of convincing defeats doesn't highlight just how ill-prepared we are to compete with top teams - and more criminally, that AW refuses to learn from his mistakes - then may God help you.

Arsene Wenger's Resume, 2008-2010

Tottenham 5-1 Arsenal, League Cup, January 2008
Torn apart by our local rivals. Gives no respect to the league cup, and could seemingly care less about the fan's passionate hate toward the Spuds and their fans.

Man Utd 4-0 Arsenal, FA Cup, February 2008
Same deal, different stadium. 9,000 of our fans spent good time and money travelling to another hated rival, and our star players are left on the bench. Once again, no respect to the competition if shown, and the fans are leaving by the 70-minute mark.

Chelsea 2-1 Arsenal, FA Cup, April 2009
We somehow make it to Wembley, for the first time since it's rebuilt - once again against a close rival - and our in-form player (Arshavin) is inexplicably dropped. We predictably lose.

Man Utd 1-0 Arsenal, Champions League, April 2009
A pitiful display in which I don't think we managed one shot. On any other day, we would've been tonked.

Arsenal 1-3 Man Utd, Champions League, May 2009
Trounced in ten minutes. Never stood a hope in hell, and the 'men to boys' analogy could never be more appropriate. AW says it was his worst experience as manager of the club. He did nothing to address the problems the following summer.

Arsenal 1-4 Chelsea, May 2009
Just days after the above, we once again get destroyed - at our own stadium. Apparently, the wake-up call wasn't served, as this dross continued for another season.

Man City 3-0 Arsenal, League Cup, December 2009
Not sensing that fans still caring about the competition to an extent (in that thousands travelled there), and that our opponents were putting out a first-team side, AW throws in the towel and gets all stroppy about it in the process.

Arsenal 1-3 Man Utd, January 2010
Same deal as last season. NOTHING's CHANGED. No lesson learnt, and another thrashing.

Chelsea 2-0 Arsenal, February 2010
Another week on, another sound beating.

Barcelona 4-1 Arsenal, Champions League, April 2010
Another capitulation on the grand stage, when it matters. Not even close, quite frankly. Six goals conceded in two games against the Spanish side.

Tottenham 2-1 Arsenal, April 2010
Top response from the CL defeat. Lose to the Spuds and risk get overtaken by them on the last day of the season.

Wigan 3-2 Arsenal, April 2010
Clearly bored of losing the traditional way, and to decent teams, AW's group of wasters chuck the game in the last ten minutes. Seemingly exasperated after the match, AW looks sure to mix things up. Nothing happens.


Having sat through this absolute embarrasment for the past three seasons, I'm not holding back any longer. Nothing is changing, and Wenger will continue to fail for as long as he's crazily allowed to stay in charge. We can't compete with the top teams (or Wigan, apparently), and Wenger makes no attempt to remedy the issues. Almunia is the tip of the iceberg, and an obvious example of just how stubborn and deluded AW is.

If you think me slating Wenger, having watched all this, is unreasonable, you need your fucking head checked.

Fantastic post mate.

You forgot the 3-0 drubbing at home by Chelsea last season (Drogba again surprise surprise, rapes our defence once more and Mr Incompetent Fool still hasn't a clue how to stop him)

Citeh away 4-2 (shit tactics, Bendtner and Eboue on the wings Almunia own goal )

[Bring Back Pires]

Who did Chelsea add to their team which made them significantly better last year?

Chelsea and Man Utd are far and away the best teams in the country at present, and usually have closely-contested matches in which either side could win on the day. Ditto for the league title.

So in that respect, with the squads (and managers) they have, they don't need to do a great deal in the summer months - assuming nobody of great note departs.

Arsenal, however, aren't on the same platform. We're a few rungs below, looking up at them. But there's no chance of us reaching their level when significant changes by the manager are not being made.