Complete joke,happy to take the fans money but won't spend it on improving one of the most vital positions in the team.
we won't win anything with almunia in goal.
Get your coat arsene you useless twat!
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Yes, Selsdon, exactly what I was thinking off when reading posts and your reply, Chamakh should have been signed last January, but why not, because he would have cost a fee, and the centre backs that have come in don't equate to numbers that have gone out, on frees and loans, especially as Kos doesn't look to be upto the mark as yet.selsdon wrote:We were short in defence last season, numerically we've replaced Gallas and Campbell with Kos and Squilacci. Numbers aside, seen nothing yet from Kos to suggest he's anywhere near Gallas or Campbell and no-one knows what level Squilacci is at. We badly needed Chamakh last Jan when Bendtner was fit. Now Bendtner is out alongside the permanently injured RVP we're STILL short up front.DanielD wrote:We bought 2 CB's, and a striker we badly needed. All of them were at the right price and at the right stage of the career. I think we are only second to City in terms of strengthening.
Schwarzer is 37, he's not the best in the league, not at the right price, so if Wenger finds this deal as a bad one, why should he make it.
I agree Almunia is not good enough, but if Wenger thinks signing Schwarzer isn't going to get this club forward, and can't find another keeper with attributes sufficient to Arsenal (Prem experince, price, age), than I can understand why we didn't sign one.
We have far from strenghtened.
So, I'm fucked off with this transfer window, numbers down again, same clowns in goal, and most probably the same regression happening again.
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AA23Northbank wrote:I think you should be the one to fuck off, if all ur gonna do is go there and slag the players off then you're clearly wasting your time and money you mug. And the fact is that even some of those who want Wenger out can at least have some respect for the success he brought to the club and the invincibles and you can't even give him that, you're patheticmikeyb772001 wrote:perry groves was a legend wrote:Your a fucking disgrace to your club and all of us.mikeyb772001 wrote:
ITS BECAUSE HE LOVES THE KIDS SO MUCH
Cos i dare abuse that wanker of a manager. All he does is sign kids and act like a second father.
Fuck right off chap and jog on.
Look prick I don’t need you telling me what I can and can’t do. If I want to moan about Wenger then I will so jog on you mug. Who says all I do is go and moan about players? I go every week and most away games and I never slag off the players, the Manager but not the players. I support the team through thick and thin and travel across the country in doing so, this doesn’t mean I have to act like a sheep and join in with the cuntish support for Wenger. This is my given right considering I spend a grand on a season ticket and have listened to Wengers false hopes since May. Actually he has been coming out with the same bollox since 2005 “judge me in Mayâ€
Not signing Schwarzer is not the probelm. He would only be a margnial improvement over Almunia. (but at least would mean we'd be less likely to see the Flappyhandski).
Not replacing our keeper when we have all known they aren't good enough for all of last season is the problem. This is Arsene's failing and he can't blame Mark Hughes, injuries to Fulham's other keeper for that. He's had time and money but he hasn't sorted out what was, for me, the priority area to address. Chamak is a luxury. Kos and Squillaci are good, but a keeper was vital.
We can't even say, so far so good this season with Almunia because he was seriously dodgy against the bindippers.
Not replacing our keeper when we have all known they aren't good enough for all of last season is the problem. This is Arsene's failing and he can't blame Mark Hughes, injuries to Fulham's other keeper for that. He's had time and money but he hasn't sorted out what was, for me, the priority area to address. Chamak is a luxury. Kos and Squillaci are good, but a keeper was vital.
We can't even say, so far so good this season with Almunia because he was seriously dodgy against the bindippers.
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I agree that this thread has got unnecessarily abusive but I would suggest this ill feeling is a very clear sign of the dissatisfaction with Wenger.
Wenger came to the club with two clear targets to acheive, To modernise the football club as a whole and to bring success to the team and the fans.
He quite obviously acheived both of these goals in his early days and he will always be remembered and congratulated on this.
However, there is no more modernisation of the club to be done and has not been for some years. Since Wenger changed the clubs methods and processes enough time has elapsed that most other 'major'clubs have looked at the model and have followed suit. That is how much time has passed.
That now only leaves Wenger one goal and that is to bring silverware to the club. For the last five years he has failed to do this and compounded this failure with the use of frankly laughable, shocking, contradicting and derisory excuses.
Unfortunately some of the excuses used to defend Wenger by the Arsene Knows movement are equally as laughable. I see that Arsene is being defended with claims that a CL quarter final is something to be celebrated. It is often said that nobody remembers the beaten finalist in any competition but some of us want to trumpet the acheivements of losing a quarter final? I totally understand that we cannot win every pot, every season but out of a possible twenty trophies available to the first team over the last five years we have won nothing.
So to summarise, our manager, with one specific goal, has failed to deliver any credible silverware over the past five seasons. In what other line of work would such perfomance be tolerated yet alone celebrated?
Five years ago Arsene was a god to us all but with hindsight it is very easy to spot the deteoriation in his leadership. The scandal of losing Pires over a two year contract and subsequently offering the exact same to Silvestre. The failure to replace genuinely outstanding players with those of the same quality instead relying on the development of skilled youngsters whose progress cannot be guaranteed. The change of policy that saw technically fantastic players with the required physical attributes for the English game with ones of the same skill but who can be easliy bullied and regarded as a soft touch.
Put simply, split Wenger's reign into to eras. Pre 2005 versus post 2005. Can anyone seriously say the two are comparable? There is a thread on here asking what part of Arsenal's history would you like to be transformed to? In the future, how many will answer the golden years of 2005 to 2010?
I see that some of us are labelled spoilt, incorrectly. Questioning how Invincibles are turned into also rans and yet still heralded as great is a justified concern. Nobody is spitting the dummy over one lean year or one shock FA Cup defeat but we are complaining about what is now a sustained period of failure which could have ben avoided if a more progressive approach was taken by Wenger.
The man himself told us to judge him in May and he was. Wenger being the god he is to some was even given the benefit of doubt in May that yet another obvious failure would be rectified in the summer. It has not.
How many chances do you give one person, on a tidy £6 million a year, to deliver the aims for which he is ultimately employed?
Wenger came to the club with two clear targets to acheive, To modernise the football club as a whole and to bring success to the team and the fans.
He quite obviously acheived both of these goals in his early days and he will always be remembered and congratulated on this.
However, there is no more modernisation of the club to be done and has not been for some years. Since Wenger changed the clubs methods and processes enough time has elapsed that most other 'major'clubs have looked at the model and have followed suit. That is how much time has passed.
That now only leaves Wenger one goal and that is to bring silverware to the club. For the last five years he has failed to do this and compounded this failure with the use of frankly laughable, shocking, contradicting and derisory excuses.
Unfortunately some of the excuses used to defend Wenger by the Arsene Knows movement are equally as laughable. I see that Arsene is being defended with claims that a CL quarter final is something to be celebrated. It is often said that nobody remembers the beaten finalist in any competition but some of us want to trumpet the acheivements of losing a quarter final? I totally understand that we cannot win every pot, every season but out of a possible twenty trophies available to the first team over the last five years we have won nothing.
So to summarise, our manager, with one specific goal, has failed to deliver any credible silverware over the past five seasons. In what other line of work would such perfomance be tolerated yet alone celebrated?
Five years ago Arsene was a god to us all but with hindsight it is very easy to spot the deteoriation in his leadership. The scandal of losing Pires over a two year contract and subsequently offering the exact same to Silvestre. The failure to replace genuinely outstanding players with those of the same quality instead relying on the development of skilled youngsters whose progress cannot be guaranteed. The change of policy that saw technically fantastic players with the required physical attributes for the English game with ones of the same skill but who can be easliy bullied and regarded as a soft touch.
Put simply, split Wenger's reign into to eras. Pre 2005 versus post 2005. Can anyone seriously say the two are comparable? There is a thread on here asking what part of Arsenal's history would you like to be transformed to? In the future, how many will answer the golden years of 2005 to 2010?
I see that some of us are labelled spoilt, incorrectly. Questioning how Invincibles are turned into also rans and yet still heralded as great is a justified concern. Nobody is spitting the dummy over one lean year or one shock FA Cup defeat but we are complaining about what is now a sustained period of failure which could have ben avoided if a more progressive approach was taken by Wenger.
The man himself told us to judge him in May and he was. Wenger being the god he is to some was even given the benefit of doubt in May that yet another obvious failure would be rectified in the summer. It has not.
How many chances do you give one person, on a tidy £6 million a year, to deliver the aims for which he is ultimately employed?
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mikeyb772001 wrote:AA23Northbank wrote:I think you should be the one to fuck off, if all ur gonna do is go there and slag the players off then you're clearly wasting your time and money you mug. And the fact is that even some of those who want Wenger out can at least have some respect for the success he brought to the club and the invincibles and you can't even give him that, you're patheticmikeyb772001 wrote:perry groves was a legend wrote:Your a fucking disgrace to your club and all of us.mikeyb772001 wrote:
ITS BECAUSE HE LOVES THE KIDS SO MUCH
Cos i dare abuse that wanker of a manager. All he does is sign kids and act like a second father.
Fuck right off chap and jog on.
Look prick I don’t need you telling me what I can and can’t do. If I want to moan about Wenger then I will so jog on you mug. Who says all I do is go and moan about players? I go every week and most away games and I never slag off the players, the Manager but not the players. I support the team through thick and thin and travel across the country in doing so, this doesn’t mean I have to act like a sheep and join in with the cuntish support for Wenger. This is my given right considering I spend a grand on a season ticket and have listened to Wengers false hopes since May. Actually he has been coming out with the same bollox since 2005 “judge me in Mayâ€
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What a brilliant post, I can't argue with none of that. Well said...Percy Dalton wrote:I agree that this thread has got unnecessarily abusive but I would suggest this ill feeling is a very clear sign of the dissatisfaction with Wenger.
Wenger came to the club with two clear targets to acheive, To modernis the footbakll club as a whole and to bring success tio the team and the fans.
He quite obviously acheived both of these goals in his early days and he will always be remembered and congratulated on this.
However, there is no more modernisation of the club to be done and has not been for some years. Since Wenger changed the clubs methods and processes enough time has elapsed that most other 'major'clubs have looked at the model and have followed suit. That is how much time has passed.
That now only leaves Wenger one goal and that is to bring silverware to the club. For the last five years he has failed to do this and compounded this failure with the use of frankly laughable, shocking, contradicting and derisory excuses.
Unfortunately some of the excuses used to defend Wenger by the Arsene Knows movement are equally as laughable. I see that Arsene is being defended with claims that a CL quarter final is something to be celebrated. It is often said that nobody remembers the beated finalist in any competition but some of us want to trumpet the acheivements of losing a quarter final? I totally understand that we cannot win every pot, every season but out of a possible twenty trophies available to the first tem over the last five years we have won nothing.
So to summarise, our manager, with one specific goal, has failed to deliver any credible silverware over the past five seasons. In what other line of work would such perfomance be tolerated yet alone celebrated?
Five years ago Arsene was a god to us all but with the hindsight it is very easy to spot the deteriation in his leadership. The scandal of losing Pires over a two year contract and subsequently offering the exact same to Silvestre. The failure to replace genuinely outstanding players with those of the same quality instead relying on the development of skilled youngsters whose progress cannot be guaranteed. The change of policy that saw technically fantastic players with the required physical attributes for the English game with ones of the same skill but who can be easliy bullied and regarded as a soft touch.
Put simply, split Wenger's reign into to eras. Pre 2005 versus post 2005. Can anyone seriously say the two are comparable? There is a thread on here asking what part of Arsenal's history would you like to be transformed to? In the future, how many will answer the golden years of 2005 to 2010?
I see that some of us are labelled spoilt, incorrectly. Questioning how Invincibles are turned into also rans and yet still heralded as great is a justified concern. Nobody is spitting the dummy over one lean year or one shock FA Cup defeat but we are complaining about what is now a sustained period of failure which could have ben avoided if a more progressive approach was taken by Wenger.
The man himself told us to judge him in May and he was. Wenger being the god he is to some was even given the benefit of doubt in May that yet another obvious failure would be rectified in the summer. It has not.
How many chances do you give one person, on a tidy £6 million a year, to deliver the aims for which he is ultimately employed?
A great post Percy, easily the best of the thread. Whilst I and clearly many others on here are unhappy we are still a very small minority inside the ground. No doubt the usual one Arsene Wenger chants will ring out during the Bolton game but I don't how much longer these people will tolerate 2nd best under someone who clearly no longer knows. What will it take for these idiots to wake up?? We will look back on this period in 10 years time as 1 huge missed opportunity because of one mans arrogance and ego.Percy Dalton wrote:I agree that this thread has got unnecessarily abusive but I would suggest this ill feeling is a very clear sign of the dissatisfaction with Wenger.
Wenger came to the club with two clear targets to acheive, To modernise the football club as a whole and to bring success to the team and the fans.
He quite obviously acheived both of these goals in his early days and he will always be remembered and congratulated on this.
However, there is no more modernisation of the club to be done and has not been for some years. Since Wenger changed the clubs methods and processes enough time has elapsed that most other 'major'clubs have looked at the model and have followed suit. That is how much time has passed.
That now only leaves Wenger one goal and that is to bring silverware to the club. For the last five years he has failed to do this and compounded this failure with the use of frankly laughable, shocking, contradicting and derisory excuses.
Unfortunately some of the excuses used to defend Wenger by the Arsene Knows movement are equally as laughable. I see that Arsene is being defended with claims that a CL quarter final is something to be celebrated. It is often said that nobody remembers the beaten finalist in any competition but some of us want to trumpet the acheivements of losing a quarter final? I totally understand that we cannot win every pot, every season but out of a possible twenty trophies available to the first team over the last five years we have won nothing.
So to summarise, our manager, with one specific goal, has failed to deliver any credible silverware over the past five seasons. In what other line of work would such perfomance be tolerated yet alone celebrated?
Five years ago Arsene was a god to us all but with hindsight it is very easy to spot the deteoriation in his leadership. The scandal of losing Pires over a two year contract and subsequently offering the exact same to Silvestre. The failure to replace genuinely outstanding players with those of the same quality instead relying on the development of skilled youngsters whose progress cannot be guaranteed. The change of policy that saw technically fantastic players with the required physical attributes for the English game with ones of the same skill but who can be easliy bullied and regarded as a soft touch.
Put simply, split Wenger's reign into to eras. Pre 2005 versus post 2005. Can anyone seriously say the two are comparable? There is a thread on here asking what part of Arsenal's history would you like to be transformed to? In the future, how many will answer the golden years of 2005 to 2010?
I see that some of us are labelled spoilt, incorrectly. Questioning how Invincibles are turned into also rans and yet still heralded as great is a justified concern. Nobody is spitting the dummy over one lean year or one shock FA Cup defeat but we are complaining about what is now a sustained period of failure which could have ben avoided if a more progressive approach was taken by Wenger.
The man himself told us to judge him in May and he was. Wenger being the god he is to some was even given the benefit of doubt in May that yet another obvious failure would be rectified in the summer. It has not.
How many chances do you give one person, on a tidy £6 million a year, to deliver the aims for which he is ultimately employed?
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All the rose tinters need to have a long read of that post by Percy. It sums it all up without the ranting and swearing ( i am guilty)
So another season of it. No matter how much we complain and abuse Wenger we are the ones who will stick with Arsenal forever and spend all our hard earned money year after year. I wish Wenger would have a thought for us fans, even just a little bit.
There is no way we had no money to sign another keeper, how can this be when Wenger is on £115k a week. Its maddness!
So another season of it. No matter how much we complain and abuse Wenger we are the ones who will stick with Arsenal forever and spend all our hard earned money year after year. I wish Wenger would have a thought for us fans, even just a little bit.
There is no way we had no money to sign another keeper, how can this be when Wenger is on £115k a week. Its maddness!
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DB10GOONER wrote:What are you fucking saying you fucking cuntfucked bastard fucking ***** cuntbag fuckingcuntfuckshit!!!!WalesGooner71 wrote:I have to agree that Percy's post is spot on!! I'm glad that there are at least a few of us that can put things into perspective and not resort to an incoherent rant!!
Please ignore him, he is from Tallaght!
