The Labour government lifted many children in this country out of poverty. It is shameful that a strong economy had 1 in three children living in poverty in 1997.
Programmes like SureStart and incentives for families with young children have helped tens of thousands of children. It angers me that the poorest 20% of the country will be the hardest hit by the forthcoming cuts.
I stood for the conservatives in local elections during the arrogance of my twenties. Never again. The media tricks us into looking down at people on benefits with disdain. That is some trick considering many of us are a redundancy or illness away from walking in their shoes. We are a million miles away from the top 20% who try to portray themselves as "in the same boat" as many of us.
Rather than look "down" for the problem I think we need to look "up". Tackling union militancy was important for the country but it has gone too far. Thousand of jobs have been lost because it is easier to shut down a UK plant rather than its' equivalent in Duseldorf.
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A union puppet in my opinion.
the thing is I just dont get it anymore when I was growing up you knew who was where Cons over there Labour way over the othe side and the Lib's/SDP or whatever they want to call themselves somewhere in the middle. Now they can almost go hand in hand with eachother. Look at the budjet cuts that the Cons/Liberals want to achive somewhere in the figure of 55 billion Labour are up in arms about it because it's much higher than the 46 Billion they wanted to cut??????? In the end they all want to cut spending by lots of money and when it get to the BILLIONS an extra 10 here or there isnt that much in the grand scheme of things.
Labour are not a true Labour party they are a mishmash of political views from centre to the far left with abit of middle right thrown in. To counter this the Con's are going more right to get away from the views of the Labour party but are being held near the centre by their coalition with the Liberals who are in turn being turned into a ministry of ideas rather than a political party.
The Uk should become a PLC get somebody in charge of business who knows what he/she is talking about not somebody who can stand up and read speeches and sounds good. These poloticians who run education ect how many of these people know what is happening in state schools, how many know how to run a school etc????
It's all Bollocks if you ask me
the thing is I just dont get it anymore when I was growing up you knew who was where Cons over there Labour way over the othe side and the Lib's/SDP or whatever they want to call themselves somewhere in the middle. Now they can almost go hand in hand with eachother. Look at the budjet cuts that the Cons/Liberals want to achive somewhere in the figure of 55 billion Labour are up in arms about it because it's much higher than the 46 Billion they wanted to cut??????? In the end they all want to cut spending by lots of money and when it get to the BILLIONS an extra 10 here or there isnt that much in the grand scheme of things.
Labour are not a true Labour party they are a mishmash of political views from centre to the far left with abit of middle right thrown in. To counter this the Con's are going more right to get away from the views of the Labour party but are being held near the centre by their coalition with the Liberals who are in turn being turned into a ministry of ideas rather than a political party.
The Uk should become a PLC get somebody in charge of business who knows what he/she is talking about not somebody who can stand up and read speeches and sounds good. These poloticians who run education ect how many of these people know what is happening in state schools, how many know how to run a school etc????
It's all Bollocks if you ask me
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Any and every political party is a mishmash of opinion and always has been. The only difference in the past 15 years or so is that one minority clique of opinion gained absolute dominance within the party. This didn't just happen by coincidence, it happened because the doctrine of what is called "traditional Labour" is woefully, woefully inadequate and dangerous when deployed in a diverse post-industrial society.stg wrote: the thing is I just dont get it anymore when I was growing up you knew who was where Cons over there Labour way over the othe side and the Lib's/SDP or whatever they want to call themselves somewhere in the middle.
This is not some tabloid conspiracy, it is the truth. Modern society is often described as ungovernable and frankly, i agree. My vote therefore goes to whoever proposes to govern least and my protest goes to whoever proposes to "fix" society by spunking other peoples money all over the shop and then asking the next generation to pick up the bill.
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The clique get everywhereLDB wrote:Any and every political party is a mishmash of opinion and always has been. The only difference in the past 15 years or so is that one minority clique of opinion gained absolute dominance within the party. This didn't just happen by coincidence, it happened because the doctrine of what is called "traditional Labour" is woefully, woefully inadequate and dangerous when deployed in a diverse post-industrial society.stg wrote: the thing is I just dont get it anymore when I was growing up you knew who was where Cons over there Labour way over the othe side and the Lib's/SDP or whatever they want to call themselves somewhere in the middle.
This is not some tabloid conspiracy, it is the truth. Modern society is often described as ungovernable and frankly, i agree. My vote goes to whoever proposes to govern least and my protest goes to whoever proposes to "fix" society by spunking other peoples money all over the shop and then asking the next generation to pick up the bill.

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marcengels wrote:The clique get everywhereLDB wrote:Any and every political party is a mishmash of opinion and always has been. The only difference in the past 15 years or so is that one minority clique of opinion gained absolute dominance within the party. This didn't just happen by coincidence, it happened because the doctrine of what is called "traditional Labour" is woefully, woefully inadequate and dangerous when deployed in a diverse post-industrial society.stg wrote: the thing is I just dont get it anymore when I was growing up you knew who was where Cons over there Labour way over the othe side and the Lib's/SDP or whatever they want to call themselves somewhere in the middle.
This is not some tabloid conspiracy, it is the truth. Modern society is often described as ungovernable and frankly, i agree. My vote goes to whoever proposes to govern least and my protest goes to whoever proposes to "fix" society by spunking other peoples money all over the shop and then asking the next generation to pick up the bill.

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he is a politician so that makes him a *word censored* of the highest order.
he doesnt give a shit about you or me , now he's got the highest job he will probably getin politics he can sit back talk even more bullshit cost us even more money for doing absolutely fuck all. the *word censored*, thats all i can say about him a nd all politicians, *word censored* *word censored* *word censored*. hope he dies a slow and painful death.
he doesnt give a shit about you or me , now he's got the highest job he will probably getin politics he can sit back talk even more bullshit cost us even more money for doing absolutely fuck all. the *word censored*, thats all i can say about him a nd all politicians, *word censored* *word censored* *word censored*. hope he dies a slow and painful death.
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