Forget Wenger and bring back USmartin!Henry Norris 1913 wrote:bollocks to US MartinIceman29 wrote:Why is USmartin banned?AA23Northbank wrote:USMartin banned and a thread on Wenger's private live descends into an argument on Arsenal's finances! Get a grip guys!!!
Free the USmartin!
wenger sort it out you fackin slaaaaaaaaaag
Can't you see that we are one signing away from being the next Portsmouth?Cockerill's chin wrote:Let's try not to miss the point agin N.O.
Who is comparing Arsenal's debt with Chelsea millions? I will spell it out. It was not entirely Chelseas' oligarch club status which prevented Arsenal from competing. Since 2004 we have made no net investment in the squad. This lack of ambition has been just as much culpable for our decline as any sugar daddy status.
We did not need £30 million players to stay competitive. A balanced policy would have worked. We have been just two or three players short each season and that has made it very frustrating when the priorities of the club have been wrong. What should have been the launchpad for Arsenal (Invincibles) was far too quickly dismantled in an over reliance on youth to allow accelereated loan repayments. The stadium debt is self-funding; custodians have chosen rapid repayment at the expense of a more balanced approach.
It is funny how quickly the official clique mention Leeds. You mentioned Liverpool in the first post. Let's have Portsmouth in the next one and we will almost have the set.
What is your point about wages increasing? AW has a very generous wage budget and it can be argued he has over rewarded potential to keep them happy at a time when we cannot keep them satisfied with silverware. The balance is again wrong. The original point has not changed. If you cannot appreciate that we have prioritised accelerated loan repayments over a more balanced transfer policy then you are a naive fan. The location of the stadium is an increased asset for the Arsenal and I again fail to see your point. The costs of building the stadium is met with a surplus by the additional revenue it brings in. As long as the sums add up the location is an assett rather than a cost burden.
AW and the board BS PR is a nonsense point to make. Our best players have been leaving and will continue to do so as they want to compete.
On the political front, volunteering is not a luxury, its a hard decision when you put other peoples needs in front of your own and your family. Luxury implies that the only thing stopping people volunteering is opportunity. If only that were the case.
It is funny that you mention BS because there is an offical site smell to this place of late. It is a massive relief that we have mods who allow discussion and the nonsense you guys spout to be challenged. I suppose I would have been banned by now on the official.
Up4GrabsSlop!marcengels wrote:Can't you see that we are one signing away from being the next Portsmouth?Cockerill's chin wrote:Let's try not to miss the point agin N.O.
Who is comparing Arsenal's debt with Chelsea millions? I will spell it out. It was not entirely Chelseas' oligarch club status which prevented Arsenal from competing. Since 2004 we have made no net investment in the squad. This lack of ambition has been just as much culpable for our decline as any sugar daddy status.
We did not need £30 million players to stay competitive. A balanced policy would have worked. We have been just two or three players short each season and that has made it very frustrating when the priorities of the club have been wrong. What should have been the launchpad for Arsenal (Invincibles) was far too quickly dismantled in an over reliance on youth to allow accelereated loan repayments. The stadium debt is self-funding; custodians have chosen rapid repayment at the expense of a more balanced approach.
It is funny how quickly the official clique mention Leeds. You mentioned Liverpool in the first post. Let's have Portsmouth in the next one and we will almost have the set.
What is your point about wages increasing? AW has a very generous wage budget and it can be argued he has over rewarded potential to keep them happy at a time when we cannot keep them satisfied with silverware. The balance is again wrong. The original point has not changed. If you cannot appreciate that we have prioritised accelerated loan repayments over a more balanced transfer policy then you are a naive fan. The location of the stadium is an increased asset for the Arsenal and I again fail to see your point. The costs of building the stadium is met with a surplus by the additional revenue it brings in. As long as the sums add up the location is an assett rather than a cost burden.
AW and the board BS PR is a nonsense point to make. Our best players have been leaving and will continue to do so as they want to compete.
On the political front, volunteering is not a luxury, its a hard decision when you put other peoples needs in front of your own and your family. Luxury implies that the only thing stopping people volunteering is opportunity. If only that were the case.
It is funny that you mention BS because there is an offical site smell to this place of late. It is a massive relief that we have mods who allow discussion and the nonsense you guys spout to be challenged. I suppose I would have been banned by now on the official.
You and your logical arguments, based upon facts and rational thinking
I would argue that you should write more CC, given the quality of your posts - but perhaps that would dilute the quality, and you'd just end up being another DB10..
Well the official clique I'm referring to are those who have been the ones who have fell out of the Champions League and then crashed and burned.Cockerill's chin wrote:
It is funny how quickly the official clique mention Leeds. You mentioned Liverpool in the first post. Let's have Portsmouth in the next one and we will almost have the set.
Though paying for experienced players is not within our budget, £17K a week for Aaron Ramsey who would have signed for United for £7k, had he not broken his leg that figure could well have paid for itself.What is your point about wages increasing? AW has a very generous wage budget and it can be argued he has over rewarded potential to keep them happy at a time when we cannot keep them satisfied with silverware.
Well yes once you've paid off your mortgage you're quids in, the mortgage has to be paid for first.The location of the stadium is an increased asset for the Arsenal and I again fail to see your point. The costs of building the stadium is met with a surplus by the additional revenue it brings in. As long as the sums add up the location is an assett rather than a cost burden.
yeah and er... who left last year?AW and the board BS PR is a nonsense point to make. Our best players have been leaving and will continue to do so as they want to compete.
When you leave the house at 7AM and don't return until 9.30PM, as many do, I'm not sure what exactly you can volunteer for. Driving a night bus free of charge, maybe?On the political front, volunteering is not a luxury, its a hard decision when you put other peoples needs in front of your own and your family. Luxury implies that the only thing stopping people volunteering is opportunity. If only that were the case.
There was a poll of Portsmouth fans, and it showed that the majority are happy that they achieved something in winning the FA Cup, even given what it has lead to.Never Outgunned wrote:
Unless Portsmouth have been in the Champions League I don't think it refers to them - however they have actually won a trophy since we last did, ask their fans whether they'd swap it for our 3rd/4th place finishes since 2005. My guess is I think they would.
Because they just about survived. They were days away from going out of business, if that had come to pass and they had no team to watch every saturday they might feel differently.marcengels wrote:There was a poll of Portsmouth fans, and it showed that the majority are happy that they achieved something in winning the FA Cup, even given what it has lead to.Never Outgunned wrote:
Unless Portsmouth have been in the Champions League I don't think it refers to them - however they have actually won a trophy since we last did, ask their fans whether they'd swap it for our 3rd/4th place finishes since 2005. My guess is I think they would.
And would they swap with us?marcengels wrote:There was a poll of Portsmouth fans, and it showed that the majority are happy that they achieved something in winning the FA Cup, even given what it has lead to.Never Outgunned wrote:
Unless Portsmouth have been in the Champions League I don't think it refers to them - however they have actually won a trophy since we last did, ask their fans whether they'd swap it for our 3rd/4th place finishes since 2005. My guess is I think they would.
Surely because if its busy carrying its own weight there isnt going to be much left to invest? I dont see how you can question the logic that if there was no mortgage the club would have more to spend?Cockerill's chin wrote:Last one because I've taken the thread off topic.
The mortgage analogy isn't relevant for the stadium. Mortgaged houses do not tend to create immediate and accessible revenue that pays for their debt. The stadium does and then a surplus. I cannot make that point any more times. How can it be a burden to justify the lack of investment when it carries its own weight?
I think I've mentioned Leeds as many times as you haveCockerill's chin wrote: It is embarassing that you continue to mention Leeds.
I'm sure if we thought he was really worth the effort he would have made every effort to try to convince Hleb to stay, but Fabregas/Henry Hleb is notHleb hasn't progressed his career but the manager you cannot fault did not want to him to go. Did AW get that wrong?
That never used to be a problem?This season has shown that Arsenal need a performing Fabregas. His inevitable departure has been accelerated in line with the debt repayments. He was always going to go to Barca but we will lose three to four years of a midfielder who will be one of the very best in the world. If it was just about the perception of money as you suggest, then he would have left already. It is about the club showing the same ambition as its world class players. That never used to be a problem.
And if you've got so much time to volunteer you've obviously got too much time on your hands dear boy![/quote]Working 14 hours a day is a burden and if you do indeed do that on a regular basis then your lack of rational thought is understandable. Get some rest.
Even that wouldn't stop the stupid paedo chants from other clubsMK Gould wrote:I think the stats are that something like one in four married men/women will have an affair at some point. I bet that the stats are much higher for anyone in the entertainment and media industry. So the only hypocrites are the reporters at the Sun who are probably doing exactly the same thing on company expense! So should anyone really be surprised/angry/give a shit....?
I'm just relieved that the subject of his affections was:
1. Female
2. Over 16
3. Not the spouse/girlfriend of anyone connected with Arsenal FC
