Doesnt affect us, come the end of the season we wont be anywhere near themChadez wrote:not sure how to feel about the Chelsea loss. We could have been top of the table... 45 minutes!!
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Couldn't give a shite - we won't win the League anyway.Chadez wrote:not sure how to feel about the Chelsea loss. We could have been top of the table... 45 minutes!!
More important that City and Liverpool keeping dropping points. We could have been 10 clear of the Spuds today. Top 4 is all we can hope for at Ambitionless FC
Really? If not for his stupidity they wouldn't have got their equalizer.kingjayson1 wrote:If I was Cesc, I'd be off to Barcelona in a shot. Playing with utter c**ts. And managed by one too.Glitch33 wrote:As Cesc came off the pitch he tore off his captains armband threw it in the air and kicked it. It was left on the pitch until one of the groundstaff picked it up.storrmin571 wrote:I want Fabregas to stand up and say this is his fault. Why did he raise his hand
Couldn't decide if he was taking it out on himself, his team mates, or the club, or all of the above.
Some managers would fine a player for doing that. Cesc has a great football brain but he looked pedestrian a lot of the time. Not playing at his imperious best.
Cesc is part of the team and as much to blame as any of the other *word censored* disgracing our shirt.
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Cesc did alright today IMO. Was one of the only people who played well in our side. Set up the first goal with a quality ball for Nasri, pulled the strings throughout the first half and even did well in the second. He could have set up a chamakh hat trick today if chamakh took a shot instead of trying to turn the defender even though he's through on goal
Should be 10pts clear of sp*rs, instead it's down to 4pts 
Wenger's post match comments suggests there's a real attitude problem at Arsenal. I said the same after the West Brom game, but where does this complacency and arrogance come from??? - they've won fuck all, yet all it takes is a bit of confidence and praise and they become complacent and lose focus?! why??
They should have a hunger and desire to succeed; to prove people wrong, and repay the managers faith - but they can't maintain concentration. They can't focus. They just haven't got the discipline, intelligence or maturity.
Very disappointing result, but I'm more disappointed with the attitude and focus - basically, it stinks. You don't behave like that if you respect the manager and the fans - it was selfish and it's unprofessional.
It's only 3pts, and in that sense it's not the end of the world - but it's very difficult to respect or believe in them at the moment.
Still, onwards and upwards
Wenger's post match comments suggests there's a real attitude problem at Arsenal. I said the same after the West Brom game, but where does this complacency and arrogance come from??? - they've won fuck all, yet all it takes is a bit of confidence and praise and they become complacent and lose focus?! why??
They should have a hunger and desire to succeed; to prove people wrong, and repay the managers faith - but they can't maintain concentration. They can't focus. They just haven't got the discipline, intelligence or maturity.
Very disappointing result, but I'm more disappointed with the attitude and focus - basically, it stinks. You don't behave like that if you respect the manager and the fans - it was selfish and it's unprofessional.
It's only 3pts, and in that sense it's not the end of the world - but it's very difficult to respect or believe in them at the moment.
Still, onwards and upwards
Didn't Cesc give away a soft penalty?
As captain he needs to set an example and lead the team on the pitch.
Ripping off the armband in public is not going to help matters. He needs to explain why he has done it.
I hope he just thinks he hadn't done enough and felt he didn't deserve the armband. Shows he cares rather than just havng a tantrum.
Rip it off in the dressing room and have a rant by all means. Having a big sulk is not going to help anyone.
As captain he needs to set an example and lead the team on the pitch.
Ripping off the armband in public is not going to help matters. He needs to explain why he has done it.
I hope he just thinks he hadn't done enough and felt he didn't deserve the armband. Shows he cares rather than just havng a tantrum.
Rip it off in the dressing room and have a rant by all means. Having a big sulk is not going to help anyone.
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Exactly mate.g88ner wrote:Should be 10pts clear of sp*rs, instead it's down to 4pts
Wenger's post match comments suggests there's a real attitude problem at Arsenal. I said the same after the West Brom game, but where does this complacency and arrogance come from??? - they've won fuck all, yet all it takes is a bit of confidence and praise and they become complacent and lose focus?! why??
They should have a hunger and desire to succeed; to prove people wrong, and repay the managers faith - but they can't maintain concentration. They can't focus. They just haven't got the discipline, intelligence or maturity.
Very disappointing result, but I'm more disappointed with the attitude and focus - basically, it stinks. You don't behave like that if you respect the manager and the fans - it was selfish and it's unprofessional.
It's only 3pts, and in that sense it's not the end of the world - but it's very difficult to respect or believe in them at the moment.
Still, onwards and upwards
Also, Turnip proclaiming this lot as the best group of players he's had can't be helping much on that front either.
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g88ner has hit the nail on the head. Matey, you ask where does this arrogance and complacency come from? There is only one place, the Manager. How many times have we said 'Can you imagine Mourinho letting that happen?' How your players play and the style all comes from the top. Can you imagine Wenger saying at Half Time 'It's still 0-0, we've won nothing yet, don't go out there thinking we have etc etc' Course not, it would be praise and pats on the back saying how wonderful his babies are doing. Then it's down to your Adams type players to make sure the arrogance doesn't kick in and the focus is maintained but where are they in the squad? The spirit is there when it's going well. Any mug would have known that the Spuds weren't gonna give up but we couldn't fucking hold our nerve. I do blame Wenger totally for defeats like this. He can't come out and say it's mental strength problems without accepting that he is the one that creates how your team approaches games.
It's not often I leave a ground feeling physically sick but today was one of those days. Unfortunately I don't think it'll be the last.
It's not often I leave a ground feeling physically sick but today was one of those days. Unfortunately I don't think it'll be the last.
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have just returned home from todays shit fest........
quite frankly we are an embarassement how the fuck we contrived to piss away a 2 goal lead (again) against our bitter rivals when we have a chance to go top is beyond me.
the fact that chelsea lost only makes it worse.
the blame lies squarely in one place - our manager
i actually admire wenger for the way he develops youthg players, technically we are probably as good as any team in the premiership. however our team fundamentalyl acks that killer instinct that is required to win or kill games off and that can only come down to a failure in the coaching of our team.
at the end of the day we do not how to win.
quite frankly we are an embarassement how the fuck we contrived to piss away a 2 goal lead (again) against our bitter rivals when we have a chance to go top is beyond me.
the fact that chelsea lost only makes it worse.
the blame lies squarely in one place - our manager
i actually admire wenger for the way he develops youthg players, technically we are probably as good as any team in the premiership. however our team fundamentalyl acks that killer instinct that is required to win or kill games off and that can only come down to a failure in the coaching of our team.
at the end of the day we do not how to win.
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It amazes me how far people will go to defend their favourites. How can anyone say Fabregas played well today? He was the player who should have come off when RVP came on - taking off Chamakh (even if he was tired) was fucking ridiculous - he had won every ball played up to him. Fabregas played a fabulous ball for the opening goal, but apart from that he was woeful. The handball was a sign of complete stupidity and cowardice (remember he got away with one at home to Liverpool at the start of the year).
I haven't read through the entire thread but I daresay there are some excusing Fabregas on the grounds that he has to play with the likes of Denilson etc. On other threads I've seen people having a pop at Song, Denilson and even Fabianski - not quite sure what his role was in the defeat.
Koscielny is not good enough, and shouldn't have been playing ahead of Djourou anyway. Then the Manager made his usual shit substitutions. Even in spite of all of that we should still have won - open goal missed by Koscielny, Walcott blazing over the bar etc.
When it comes to it we just don't/can't defend properly. There is no organisation, no tactics, no idea in the defensive third - particularly on set-pieces. This comes back to the Manager and his absolute failure to address the obvious problems. I've been saying it for two years now - it's time to get rid of him and bring in someone with a more defensive mind. I don't go to watch entertaining football - that match today was probably the game of the season for the TV viewer - I go to see Arsenal win. 1-0 to The Arsenal does me nicely, thanks very much.
I haven't read through the entire thread but I daresay there are some excusing Fabregas on the grounds that he has to play with the likes of Denilson etc. On other threads I've seen people having a pop at Song, Denilson and even Fabianski - not quite sure what his role was in the defeat.
Koscielny is not good enough, and shouldn't have been playing ahead of Djourou anyway. Then the Manager made his usual shit substitutions. Even in spite of all of that we should still have won - open goal missed by Koscielny, Walcott blazing over the bar etc.
When it comes to it we just don't/can't defend properly. There is no organisation, no tactics, no idea in the defensive third - particularly on set-pieces. This comes back to the Manager and his absolute failure to address the obvious problems. I've been saying it for two years now - it's time to get rid of him and bring in someone with a more defensive mind. I don't go to watch entertaining football - that match today was probably the game of the season for the TV viewer - I go to see Arsenal win. 1-0 to The Arsenal does me nicely, thanks very much.
Why did he drop Chamakh? With all his weak points, he's by far our best defender at set plays. Play him on the wing for all I care, you can't drop you're best header of the ball when you got two CB's that their aerial abillities are far from brilliant..
Why the hell Cesc and Nasri wasted time in the last 10 minutes of the first half? Sp*rs were broken, yet the captain decided we should keep the score as it is, and wait for a brilliant team talk from Wenger.. They tried to do it in the first minutes of the second half, but than the goal came and we went from fuck to buttom.
Why did he leave Arshavin and Nasri on the pitch for so long, when he knew both played in mid-week and that they were tired?
We need to sort out these kind of mistakes. They cost us every single season.
Why the hell Cesc and Nasri wasted time in the last 10 minutes of the first half? Sp*rs were broken, yet the captain decided we should keep the score as it is, and wait for a brilliant team talk from Wenger.. They tried to do it in the first minutes of the second half, but than the goal came and we went from fuck to buttom.
Why did he leave Arshavin and Nasri on the pitch for so long, when he knew both played in mid-week and that they were tired?
We need to sort out these kind of mistakes. They cost us every single season.
Different brushes = Different strokes and as is the norm on here some fans are slating the usual targets and some are defending them as is their norm but a few quick points from my mind -
1. No Guts = No Glory and we have a team of gutless gutless *word censored* who you just know are going to crumble at the first sign of pressure Wenger has always maintained that when he scouts a player their character is of huge importance to him but on the evidence of the players representing our club for the past few seasons this is utter horseshite 
2. First half the scum play 1 up front and we start our attacks from the back switching play at will as pavlachenko gets no help. Second half they go 2 up top and our defenders get no time on the ball as scumbag defoe closes our back 4 time and time again resulting in hoofed balls forward Now flip that to the other side where wenger continues to play 1 up front as chamakh tries in vain to close their defenders down in the 2nd half as they start playing the ball out from the back. The result in this change in tactics from the twitcher meant that they start controlling the game possession wise and as we all know our team are a lovely ballplaying team when in control but a lightweight team of pussies if we are not 
3. Cesc gave away an absolutely stupid stupid pen for them today but he did play well in the game. In the 1st half himself and arshavin absolutely ran the show and I am amazed at those criticising these players performances
Nasri on the other hand did not have a good game imo - without wishing to copy wenger's phrases but he looked more than a little bit jaded to me especially in the 2nd half when his movement off the ball was non existent 
At the end of the day the buck must always stop with the manager and today is no different. Every week we watch matches on tv where a manager stands on the sidelines shouting instructions to his players but all our fool seems to do is wave his hands about Yet again today he got done tactically when the twitcher changed things about and I am sick of watching him continually being shown up tactically. If wenger receives all the great when his teams have won leagues and cups then therefore he should also take the blame for producing what is, in my opinion at least, the worst team we have had representing us for a quarter of a century 
1. No Guts = No Glory and we have a team of gutless gutless *word censored* who you just know are going to crumble at the first sign of pressure
Wenger has always maintained that when he scouts a player their character is of huge importance to him but on the evidence of the players representing our club for the past few seasons this is utter horseshite 2. First half the scum play 1 up front and we start our attacks from the back switching play at will as pavlachenko gets no help. Second half they go 2 up top and our defenders get no time on the ball as scumbag defoe closes our back 4 time and time again resulting in hoofed balls forward
Now flip that to the other side where wenger continues to play 1 up front as chamakh tries in vain to close their defenders down in the 2nd half as they start playing the ball out from the back. The result in this change in tactics from the twitcher meant that they start controlling the game possession wise and as we all know our team are a lovely ballplaying team when in control but a lightweight team of pussies if we are not 3. Cesc gave away an absolutely stupid stupid pen for them today but he did play well in the game. In the 1st half himself and arshavin absolutely ran the show and I am amazed at those criticising these players performances
Nasri on the other hand did not have a good game imo - without wishing to copy wenger's phrases but he looked more than a little bit jaded to me especially in the 2nd half when his movement off the ball was non existent At the end of the day the buck must always stop with the manager and today is no different. Every week we watch matches on tv where a manager stands on the sidelines shouting instructions to his players but all our fool seems to do is wave his hands about
Yet again today he got done tactically when the twitcher changed things about and I am sick of watching him continually being shown up tactically. If wenger receives all the great when his teams have won leagues and cups then therefore he should also take the blame for producing what is, in my opinion at least, the worst team we have had representing us for a quarter of a century -
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And that's what makes it even more depressing. The same problems will not be addressed and we'll all have to endure the same feeling we felt today and numerous times over the last couple of years.Eboue-Why? wrote:g88ner has hit the nail on the head. Matey, you ask where does this arrogance and complacency come from? There is only one place, the Manager. How many times have we said 'Can you imagine Mourinho letting that happen?' How your players play and the style all comes from the top. Can you imagine Wenger saying at Half Time 'It's still 0-0, we've won nothing yet, don't go out there thinking we have etc etc' Course not, it would be praise and pats on the back saying how wonderful his babies are doing. Then it's down to your Adams type players to make sure the arrogance doesn't kick in and the focus is maintained but where are they in the squad? The spirit is there when it's going well. Any mug would have known that the Spuds weren't gonna give up but we couldn't fucking hold our nerve. I do blame Wenger totally for defeats like this. He can't come out and say it's mental strength problems without accepting that he is the one that creates how your team approaches games.
It's not often I leave a ground feeling physically sick but today was one of those days. Unfortunately I don't think it'll be the last. :banghead:
