Scum game footy thread

[flash gunner]

The worm has turned I said after they beat us last season, the game after game of total domination of these cunts are gone, anyone who doesnt remember sp*rs being better than us (very late 70's - early 80's) you will get used to it over the next few years. We have gone backwards or at best stayed still while our dodery old manager still lives in his dream world where everyone plays fair and doesnt over spend.

I hope all you Wengerites are proud of this Arsenal team tonight we were a fucking disgrace today and were beaten by mediocre spurs team and we only had 3 shots on target all game. sp*rs play on momentum you have to keep them from scoring in the first 20 mins of each half if you do that invariably you win. Frank text me at half time today and i text him back saying 'the next goal is crucial' if we had scored game over, if they scored we would crumble and their momentum would be on the up..... The rest is history

UP WITH ARSENAL - DOWN WITH WENGER

[tinpot lane]

At some of the bullshit people are trotting out about the **** over taking us?

[Its Up 4 Grabs Now]

First half the scum play 1 up front and we start our attacks from the back switching play at will as pavlachenko gets no help. Second half they go 2 up top and our defenders get no time on the ball as scumbag defoe closes our back 4 time and time again resulting in hoofed balls forward Now flip that to the other side where wenger continues to play 1 up front as chamakh tries in vain to close their defenders down in the 2nd half as they start playing the ball out from the back. The result in this change in tactics from the twitcher meant that they start controlling the game possession wise and as we all know our team are a lovely ballplaying team when in control but a lightweight team of pussies if we are not

I seem to be on my own in thinking this but I really don’t see that Defoe’s introduction was responsible for changing the game. I don’t think it was so much added pressure/closing down that forced us into hoofing the ball aimlessly, more so that having switched off we lost all our fluidity. We stopped working to find space & offer options to the player on the ball. Having 2 up front should have meant even more room for us in the middle of the park, making it easier for one of the CM trio to find an angle to show for the ball. We just stopped doing that. Ultimately it doesn’t really matter but all this MOTD fawning over how Redknobb’s tactical genius changed the game is just pissing me off even more. It's just covering up our own part in throwing it away.

[MegaGooner]

First half the scum play 1 up front and we start our attacks from the back switching play at will as pavlachenko gets no help. Second half they go 2 up top and our defenders get no time on the ball as scumbag defoe closes our back 4 time and time again resulting in hoofed balls forward Now flip that to the other side where wenger continues to play 1 up front as chamakh tries in vain to close their defenders down in the 2nd half as they start playing the ball out from the back. The result in this change in tactics from the twitcher meant that they start controlling the game possession wise and as we all know our team are a lovely ballplaying team when in control but a lightweight team of pussies if we are not

I seem to be on my own in thinking this but I really don’t see that Defoe’s introduction was responsible for changing the game. I don’t think it was so much added pressure/closing down that forced us into hoofing the ball aimlessly, more so that having switched off we lost all our fluidity. We stopped working to find space & offer options to the player on the ball. Having 2 up front should have meant even more room for us in the middle of the park, making it easier for one of the CM trio to find an angle to show for the ball. We just stopped doing that. Ultimately it doesn’t really matter but all this MOTD fawning over how Redknobb’s tactical genius changed the game is just pissing me off even more. It's just covering up our own part in throwing it away.

I thought the same thing as you, but Defaults intro just added a bit of pace into their static attacks. Redknob, tactics and genius should never be in one sentence, but Wengers lack of tactics, as shown in his second half performance was just showing in the whole team performance. As I said in another thread, I always thought Rafa was poor on tactics, but I feel AW is really trying his best to challenge him..

[Glitch33]

We have no discipline when when we get in front.

We go into Keystone Kops mode and it is instilled into the team to go forward and score more goals when we need to be cautious.

Two goals up is not enough for us these days, everyone gets nervous and we can all see how it will go when they get one back.

We are cr@p at shutting up shop.

If we had a decent defence we could soak up a bit of pressure and hit them on the break. Just like the old days.

We are too slow to react when we get the ball back, the players stop and pass sideways when we should get the ball forward quicker and get a shot in.

We had several opportunities to finish them off but we typically need 5 chances to score a goal when other teams need 2 or less.

[QuartzGooner]

Defoe?

What changed the game was simply Spurs wanting it more second half, not any great tactical change.

Plus all the strategic faults listed by me and others on various threads.


I usually to post with thought but tonight I am just very very fed up and fast losing faith in Wenger,
Our same faults
repeating
repeating
repeating
like a fast food burp procession.

[Magic Hat]

First half the scum play 1 up front and we start our attacks from the back switching play at will as pavlachenko gets no help. Second half they go 2 up top and our defenders get no time on the ball as scumbag defoe closes our back 4 time and time again resulting in hoofed balls forward Now flip that to the other side where wenger continues to play 1 up front as chamakh tries in vain to close their defenders down in the 2nd half as they start playing the ball out from the back. The result in this change in tactics from the twitcher meant that they start controlling the game possession wise and as we all know our team are a lovely ballplaying team when in control but a lightweight team of pussies if we are not

I seem to be on my own in thinking this but I really don’t see that Defoe’s introduction was responsible for changing the game. I don’t think it was so much added pressure/closing down that forced us into hoofing the ball aimlessly, more so that having switched off we lost all our fluidity. We stopped working to find space & offer options to the player on the ball. Having 2 up front should have meant even more room for us in the middle of the park, making it easier for one of the CM trio to find an angle to show for the ball. We just stopped doing that. Ultimately it doesn’t really matter but all this MOTD fawning over how Redknobb’s tactical genius changed the game is just pissing me off even more. It's just covering up our own part in throwing it away.

I don't think we even started hoofing it, we kept the ball, we kept possession but this time, we wasted our chances (thanks Chamahk) when we had them and conceded three poor goals. This had little to do with Redknapp's "master stroke", the first half would have been exactly the same had Gomes done his job properly and our defenders had been equally inept in first half.

[SteveO 35]

First half the scum play 1 up front and we start our attacks from the back switching play at will as pavlachenko gets no help. Second half they go 2 up top and our defenders get no time on the ball as scumbag defoe closes our back 4 time and time again resulting in hoofed balls forward Now flip that to the other side where wenger continues to play 1 up front as chamakh tries in vain to close their defenders down in the 2nd half as they start playing the ball out from the back. The result in this change in tactics from the twitcher meant that they start controlling the game possession wise and as we all know our team are a lovely ballplaying team when in control but a lightweight team of pussies if we are not

I seem to be on my own in thinking this but I really don’t see that Defoe’s introduction was responsible for changing the game. I don’t think it was so much added pressure/closing down that forced us into hoofing the ball aimlessly, more so that having switched off we lost all our fluidity. We stopped working to find space & offer options to the player on the ball. Having 2 up front should have meant even more room for us in the middle of the park, making it easier for one of the CM trio to find an angle to show for the ball. We just stopped doing that. Ultimately it doesn’t really matter but all this MOTD fawning over how Redknobb’s tactical genius changed the game is just pissing me off even more. It's just covering up our own part in throwing it away.

Absolutely correct - there was no tactical moment of genius from the twitchy one......just like Roberto Martinez didn't suddenly become a grand master when we conceded three pathetically at the DW at the end of last season.

The first and third goal exposed our soft centre in a way that is an accident waiting to happen every time we take the field, and the wantaway one conceded the most pathetic, childish penalty giving Dowd no option by sticking his arm high above his head. It's amazing how this defeat has been held up as a Harry masterpiece.

He played a style so wide open that it's unsurprising they have had more than a few defeats this season. I thought we were bad in the holding midfield department but they are a joke - Jenas, Modric, Van der Vaart, Lennon and Bale - how does that work ? They will suffer an absolute pounding if they come up against a CL team that knows how to retain possession. Barca would be capable of doing to them what Inter did for 20 minutes in the San Siro........but for 90 minutes.

Spurs in the first half yesterday - dog shit. Arsenal in the second half - just a worse texture of dog shit. Result - two completely naive teams with soft centres resulting in a lottery of a result and one which is "good for the neutrals".

If the Mickeys get their act together it's not beyond possibility that neither us or the Spuds will finish top 4.

[aw]

Calm down. We're 2pts of the lead with 24 games to go!!!

[SteveO 35]

Anyone listen to what our great manager said after the game i switched channels

I didn't but get your bullshit bingo card ready. I'm sure his great words of wisdom would have contained:

Physically
Jaded
Handbrake
Inefficiency
Lost concentration
The referee was very poor
International break
Difficult to explain
Unlucky



Great belief
We will continue to fight


.........SHOUT HOUSE !!

You've won an all expenses paid trip to Trophylessland......

If there was a tipsters competition for post match Wenger press conferences, can I enter please ?

I managed to find these little gems from the list of bullshit:

1. some players dropped
2. A drop of concentration, some basic errors, some bad luck as well because the penalty spot I think was no foul for them at the start
3. To re-analyze the game, it’s a mystery how we can lose a game like that
4. I felt some players who played mid-week – who played Sunday, Wednesday, today – could not maintain the pace in the game and that we dropped physically and we had some heavy legs in the second half.
5. but I felt for example that Chamakh in the second half was clean through and came back because he had no legs. He played 70 or 80 minutes on Wednesday night. Of course after they come back and they are dead
6. I believe there is a matter that exists in football as well – that is bad luck. How can you imagine that suddenly you get a free kick and then a penalty behind that when the free kick is missed? It is difficult


Yes, Arsene. Those international breaks and referees are all conspiring against us again aren't they ? Three members of our back four looked completely done in by the international break in particular - Koscielny, Squillaci and Clichy......still I suppose Clichy was jet lagged from making the long trip to Wembley and sitting on the bench. And poor old Marouane and that long trip to Northern Ireland playing a whole 80 minutes against one of the world powers of football.

My god - does he really think anyone falls for this shit anymore ?
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[TeeCee]

Calm down. We're 2pts of the lead with 24 games to go!!!

We may as well be 20 points off the top, we will NEVER win the PL under this joke of a manager, in fact, calling Wenger a manager is a joke, he isn't. He is a sugar daddy to his babies and that's it.
No tactics
No motivation
No ideas

Three things that a MANAGER has to possess!

[augie]

Can I just clarify the point I was making re the twitchers change of tactics at half time.............I wasnt saying it was a genuis move or showed real tactical acumen but what I was saying is that his system wasnt working and he changed it whereas wenger stands (and falls ) by the same system over and over again and learns nothing I will still argue that as a defender it is far far easier keeping possession and looking for your passes when you are only playing against 1 striker but I will also concede that the lack of energy, interest, movement and commitment in the 2nd half also had a huge part to play in our demise

[Nick Bendtners Ego]

Don't think there is anything to add that hasn't been said already .
Still got that very sick feeling in my gut . I would safely say , that was the
worst 45 minutes of my life .
What a horrible surreal atmosphere filing out of the Stadium , long time since i experienced one like it . Felt like a Funeral . Hushed tones , whispered
voices . Shock . Disbelieving . Apt I suppose for the 11 stiffs out there .
Second from Top . So fucking what . Time to look at the real picture .

[DB10GOONER]

Fucking goals on sunday have had their twitchy love-in...

Apparently twitchy is now a tactical genius and his "management record stands second to none..."

Those crunts have obviously never heard of Ferguson, Moron-io, GG, Wenger, Paisly etc etc - you know, managers that HAVE WON NUMEROUS MAJOR TROPHIES!!

Arseholes.

[Its Up 4 Grabs Now]

Can I just clarify the point I was making re the twitchers change of tactics at half time.............I wasnt saying it was a genuis move or showed real tactical acumen but what I was saying is that his system wasnt working and he changed it whereas wenger stands (and falls ) by the same system over and over again and learns nothing I will still argue that as a defender it is far far easier keeping possession and looking for your passes when you are only playing against 1 striker but I will also concede that the lack of energy, interest, movement and commitment in the 2nd half also had a huge part to play in our demise

Fair do’s augie, and just to clarify my own point the part about Arry’s tactical switch being lauded as some kind of Mourinho-esque genius wasn’t so much in relation to your post. That bit was more to do with the reaction in the press/media. Twitcher was clearly hyping up his substitution in his post-match interview to paint himself as the messiah, all while playing the faux-modesty card at the same time. And as usual MOTD et al were only too happy to lap it all up like a blind lezzer in a fishmongers.

The only things the media seem to love more than either regurgitating a spoon-fed story or swallowing Twitcher’s balls whole is the chance to do both at the same time. Not sure if it’s cos they’re all so pally-pally with him or if they’re all on a mission to have him replace Capello. Probably both.