A MANAGER TO GET US BACK WHERE WE BELONG

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Herd
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Sid u blinkered twat none of the first 4 would come to us and the rest are shit !

In order to attract good managers you need to be able to sign quality players and we cant or accordingly to some wont !

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charliegeorgewhocanhitem wrote:Mourinho for me, he would'nt stand for the spineless, passionless shite we've witnessed this week :banghead: and he'd get us back to the days when we were hated, good :barscarf: :lol: He'd wind people up left right and centre and generally ruffle many feathers and be on a one man mission to fuck chelsea over. Oh, and did'nt his teams at chelsea smash the y**s virtually everytime he played them? :roll: I'm sick of pretty patacake football with very little end result, give me back my "boring boring Arsenal" please :barscarf: :lol:
Spot on Chaz. ^^Please Arsenal listen to this man^^

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I'm not saying we have to play the way we're doing now but Mourinho's football goes beyond boring.

It's sad to see how people now become so desperate that they look towards a team who won a throphies with dodgy russian money playing in a way that makes Stoke look like Barcelona, with envy...

As for Hiddink, yes great manager with a great record but he goes where the money is....which wouldn't b The Arsenal and if there's one thing no one can doubt it's that at least we have a manager who is extremly loyal to the club.

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PHP wrote:1st choice. Guus Hiddink
2nd choice. Joachim Löw (as someone on here suggested the other day?)
3rd choice. David Moyes
Those are the only 3 choices I would have with Jose as No.1 but we could never afford him and our board wouldn't like being told just how crap they really are by someone who does know what he's talking about.

Coyle and O'Neill :banghead: :banghead: Do me a favour. O'Neill can't win a match once the clocks go forward and we won't win a bloody game just lots of draws that will be useless when it comes to winning titles.

It's one thing to be hard to beat but to be completely clueless in breaking teams down, we've already got that here.

And with some of the brightest young talent in England the t**t brought in HESKEY :oops: :roll: :banghead:

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MM99 wrote:
frankbutcher wrote:PS - Spuds seem to have dropped the old 'beautiful
football' approach and are now actually making progress. :evil:
Not really, they're still playing decent football this season and they haven't resorted to shit tactics like hoofing the ball up there and hoping something happens. They try to pass the ball around on the ground and only use the long ball option when they have crouch up there. Otherwise they keep the ball on the ground and play decent football. Certainly not dropped the 'beautiful football'.
Let's not start wanking over the scum just yet. Under Jol when the league was harder they performed better were better defensively. All that's happened is that the Ape has shown he is a class player and the twitcher and his flasher chairman have benefitted from Real's wasteful transfer policy in getting Van Der Vaart.

Take those 2 out and you're left with Modric, the poor man's Fabregas. Huddlestone wouldn't swap for Wishire as one is technicaally a better player despite being 5 years younger. Walcott and Lennon are much of a muchness...both inconsistent. Match winner-wise what's left after that..Jenas,...do me a favour.

We have a core that's as good as the Chavs and Manures. It's the management that's gone stale, players are being allowed to do what they want,slack off, be poorly organised and just generally turn up play how they want and pick up a fat pay check.

They need a manager to kick their backsides, organise them and make them into a team again. Think of the number of our passes that go astray these days.

Anyone else see the bench about 55mins into the game, Koscielny and Sczesny's face sitting under their blankets says it all. Remember what twitchy said about having to drag the 'poor players out of their nice cosy homes for a game on a cold night midweek'.

Too many of our players are underperforming and the ones that are performing are being let down by the manager and team mates.

We need a change or pray AW gets an assistant who kicks some life back into the team. Winning the CC as much as it would please us all, I think might end up taking us backwards as it would allow board and manager to say 'Look, I told you we were making progress'. No we're not.

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topgoon wrote:
MM99 wrote:
frankbutcher wrote:PS - Spuds seem to have dropped the old 'beautiful
football' approach and are now actually making progress. :evil:
Not really, they're still playing decent football this season and they haven't resorted to shit tactics like hoofing the ball up there and hoping something happens. They try to pass the ball around on the ground and only use the long ball option when they have crouch up there. Otherwise they keep the ball on the ground and play decent football. Certainly not dropped the 'beautiful football'.
Let's not start wanking over the scum just yet. Under Jol when the league was harder they performed better were better defensively. All that's happened is that the Ape has shown he is a class player and the twitcher and his flasher chairman have benefitted from Real's wasteful transfer policy in getting Van Der Vaart.

Take those 2 out and you're left with Modric, the poor man's Fabregas. Huddlestone wouldn't swap for Wishire as one is technicaally a better player despite being 5 years younger. Walcott and Lennon are much of a muchness...both inconsistent. Match winner-wise what's left after that..Jenas,...do me a favour.

We have a core that's as good as the Chavs and Manures. It's the management that's gone stale, players are being allowed to do what they want,slack off, be poorly organised and just generally turn up play how they want and pick up a fat pay check.

They need a manager to kick their backsides, organise them and make them into a team again. Think of the number of our passes that go astray these days.

Anyone else see the bench about 55mins into the game, Koscielny and Sczesny's face sitting under their blankets says it all. Remember what twitchy said about having to drag the 'poor players out of their nice cosy homes for a game on a cold night midweek'.

Too many of our players are underperforming and the ones that are performing are being let down by the manager and team mates.

We need a change or pray AW gets an assistant who kicks some life back into the team. Winning the CC as much as it would please us all, I think might end up taking us backwards as it would allow board and manager to say 'Look, I told you we were making progress'. No we're not.
Top post T.G. agree totally, and winning the CC this season will just paper over the cracks.

We should have won the CC a few years ago, when we had a chance to, to build a winning mentality into the team, sadly that wasn't done, because of Wenger's team policys for the domestic cups, which he seems to be relaxing for this season.

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Post by swords »

the debate about jose is pie in the sky.


there's only one job he will come back to england for and thats the munichs!

I cringe when I hear comments like we want to win playing football.Thats
sounds like the heebs of the 80s/90s,when you are not good enough to win,come out with the but we play good football excuse!

I don;'t care how we win,don't want to be loved by sky sports or the daily mail

who should our next manager be?
deschamps or pep if he wants a move from barca.
wenger world has gone stale.....

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JakeN13 wrote:I'm not saying we have to play the way we're doing now but Mourinho's football goes beyond boring.

It's sad to see how people now become so desperate that they look towards a team who won a throphies with dodgy russian money playing in a way that makes Stoke look like Barcelona, with envy...

As for Hiddink, yes great manager with a great record but he goes where the money is....which wouldn't b The Arsenal and if there's one thing no one can doubt it's that at least we have a manager who is extremly loyal to the club.
You just don't get it do you? Most football fans in general, don't give a toss about pretty football - shocking though it may be they want to win. Nice additional extra, as some teams (including Wenger's in the past) have shown pretty football when combined with the necessary organisation and steel can indeed win, indeed may be the most effective way to win. But you need that steel and organisation and for some reason Wenger has convinced certain fans you don't need the latter and can't have the former if you have the latter. And don't talk stupid hyperbole about Chelsea under Mourinho - especially for their first title they played some brilliant stuff with Robben and Duff down the wings.

You say Hiddink goes where the money is - er Wenger gets paid £6m pa. Other than Mourinho that's as good money as it gets in the game. I think Hiddink's given up on club management and therefore won't join us but don't talk like no one would want to manage us. Apart from a small group of maybe 5-10 managers in situ at big clubs in Spain, England and maybe Italy they'd jump at the chance.

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Yes, after six thropyless seasons winning something is number one but
I am pretty sure you'll find most fans of true top European clubs with history and tradition (ManU, the two Spanish giantes, Bayern and I'd count us and the Scousers to that as well) do give a toss about how their team play. Which is why Mourinho will not last more than 2 or 3 years tops in R.M. regardless of what he wins as sooner or later they will start expecting more....

Fair enough if you think what Chelsea have done / are doing is so brilliant, that's your view but I wouldn't swap with them under gun point..

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Herd wrote:Sid u blinkered twat none of the first 4 would come to us and the rest are shit !

In order to attract good managers you need to be able to sign quality players and we cant or accordingly to some wont !
You're a class act, and a real modern day "Oscar Wide"

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JakeN13 wrote:Yes, after six thropyless seasons winning something is number one but
I am pretty sure you'll find most fans of true top European clubs with history and tradition (ManU, the two Spanish giantes, Bayern and I'd count us and the Scousers to that as well) do give a toss about how their team play. Which is why Mourinho will not last more than 2 or 3 years tops in R.M. regardless of what he wins as sooner or later they will start expecting more....

Fair enough if you think what Chelsea have done / are doing is so brilliant, that's your view but I wouldn't swap with them under gun point..
Depends what you mean about Chelsea. Being totally at the mercy financially of one man who could have bankrupted them at any time is not attractive, no. Winning things on a regular basis funnily enough is something I would most definitely be happy to swap with them and their apparently inferior style.

PS: We were a club of history and tradition long before Wenger showed up and we revelled in being (at times unfairly overlooking our silkier skills) known for tough physicality and defensive steel. Wenger himself used to have that in the team.l

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Hiddink - wouldn't take the job
Rijkaard - maybe
Van Gaal - why would he leave BM
Mourinho - will go to OT or city
Koemann (with DB as assistant) unsure of this one
Moyes - is this a joke
O' Neill- as above
Coyle - who?


the answer is Jürgen Klinsmann.

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MidfieldGeneral wrote:Hiddink - wouldn't take the job
Rijkaard - maybe
Van Gaal - why would he leave BM
Mourinho - will go to OT or city
Koemann (with DB as assistant) unsure of this one
Moyes - is this a joke
O' Neill- as above
Coyle - who?


the answer is Jürgen Klinsmann.
Yeah because coyle, moyes and o'neill are so far below us lets go for klinsmann instead 8)

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I cannot believe my preferred choice has not yet been mentioned by anyone :

Capello

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TheCook wrote:I cannot believe my preferred choice has not yet been mentioned by anyone :

Capello
He has an excellent record as manager and too rate him highly but he is damaged goods within this country now after the poison challice of England job

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