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Magic Hat wrote:It doesn't reflect well on the manager that we so utterly lost our way in the last 15 minutes and our back five were constantly having to repel attacks. Why didn't Wenger change things around, to give our players an outlet and to relieve the pressure?
Totally agree Magic.The game was crying out for Walcott when the score was 2-0. Everton had to push forward and we could have picked them off with Walcott's pace.Bringing on Eboue must have been Wengers idea of a joke
Magic Hat wrote:It doesn't reflect well on the manager that we so utterly lost our way in the last 15 minutes and our back five were constantly having to repel attacks. Why didn't Wenger change things around, to give our players an outlet and to relieve the pressure?
Come on mate, that's pretty timid. We didn't lose our way, Everton stepped up and went gung-ho.
We are playing against Everton, who this season have already showed immense courage to claw back 2-0 deficits and a team which we all know is pretty good. You can't just expect them to sit there and swallow their pride and allow us to see out the last 15 minutes.
Our manager sent out a team and made changes that got us a result. You can't make the game go the way you want it (the way you descri.
Job done, well done and let's kick on and win this f*cking league
I absolutely take issue with that. Everton did not go gung-ho, they were pretty much the same, even after their changes. They did not step up until the last 5 minutes, a long time after we had really switched off.
If you feel that was going gung-ho, then I believe you may have a heart attack at Stoke.
Erm, yes they did.
I didn't say they played to their gung-ho tactics. But the manager has every intention of going gung-ho. A double substitution of Beckford and Yakubu (taking off both a midfielder and defender) is an indication of going gung-go.
If you feel that isn't going gung-ho, then I believe you should re-think
Magic Hat wrote:It doesn't reflect well on the manager that we so utterly lost our way in the last 15 minutes and our back five were constantly having to repel attacks. Why didn't Wenger change things around, to give our players an outlet and to relieve the pressure?
Come on mate, that's pretty timid. We didn't lose our way, Everton stepped up and went gung-ho.
We are playing against Everton, who this season have already showed immense courage to claw back 2-0 deficits and a team which we all know is pretty good. You can't just expect them to sit there and swallow their pride and allow us to see out the last 15 minutes.
Our manager sent out a team and made changes that got us a result. You can't make the game go the way you want it (the way you descri.
Job done, well done and let's kick on and win this f*cking league
I absolutely take issue with that. Everton did not go gung-ho, they were pretty much the same, even after their changes. They did not step up until the last 5 minutes, a long time after we had really switched off.
If you feel that was going gung-ho, then I believe you may have a heart attack at Stoke.
Erm, yes they did.
I didn't say they played to their gung-ho tactics. But the manager has every intention of going gung-ho. A double substitution of Beckford and Yakubu (taking off both a midfielder and defender) is an indication of going gung-go.
If you feel that isn't going gung-ho, then I believe you should re-think
M-50 wrote:
Come on mate, that's pretty timid. We didn't lose our way, Everton stepped up and went gung-ho.
We are playing against Everton, who this season have already showed immense courage to claw back 2-0 deficits and a team which we all know is pretty good. You can't just expect them to sit there and swallow their pride and allow us to see out the last 15 minutes.
Our manager sent out a team and made changes that got us a result. You can't make the game go the way you want it (the way you descri.
Job done, well done and let's kick on and win this f*cking league
Ferguson has to take responsibility as well for Man U's draw with Everton, as he rightly should take credit for Man U's constant ability to salvage wins or draws later on
Yes Everton are a good side, yes they posses fight and yes they were throwing everything forward. Yes it is to be expected that we would be under pressure more as Everton played 3 up front
No, Wenger's reaction was not good. We were not just on the back foot and retreating a little to hold a lead, we were being dominated, we were unable to get out of our own half. Our midfield was being bypassed and our attack was out of the game. Our keeper and back 4 needed help and Wenger didn't make the right choices, that is when he bothered to react. Why not do something to relieve the pressure? Everton didn't have to worry about defending due to how things were going, why not throw on someone to turn Everton? If Everton have to defend counter attacks, it means one or two have to drop back, it means less time for Everton to attack, it gives our defenders a breather.
M-50 wrote:
Come on mate, that's pretty timid. We didn't lose our way, Everton stepped up and went gung-ho.
We are playing against Everton, who this season have already showed immense courage to claw back 2-0 deficits and a team which we all know is pretty good. You can't just expect them to sit there and swallow their pride and allow us to see out the last 15 minutes.
Our manager sent out a team and made changes that got us a result. You can't make the game go the way you want it (the way you descri.
Job done, well done and let's kick on and win this f*cking league
Ferguson has to take responsibility as well for Man U's draw with Everton, as he rightly should take credit for Man U's constant ability to salvage wins or draws later on
Yes Everton are a good side, yes they posses fight and yes they were throwing everything forward. Yes it is to be expected that we would be under pressure more as Everton played 3 up front
No, Wenger's reaction was not good. We were not just on the back foot and retreating a little to hold a lead, we were being dominated, we were unable to get out of our own half. Our midfield was being bypassed and our attack was out of the game. Our keeper and back 4 needed help and Wenger didn't make the right choices, that is when he bothered to react. Why not do something to relieve the pressure? Everton didn't have to worry about defending due to how things were going, why not throw on someone to turn Everton? If Everton have to defend counter attacks, it means one or two have to drop back, it means less time for Everton to attack, it gives our defenders a breather.
I'm in agreement with Magic and donaldo here, with Arsenal two goals up and Everton looking completely disinterested, an offensive substitution to kill the game would have been a better play than waiting for the home crowd to pump life back into the Everton squad. Sure enough, Everton got back into it and made it a very testy end. Even if you're going to put on a defensive player like Eboue, for example, do it BEFORE they score a goal.
The man is very adept in some areas but he is not a tactical manager. He puts out his best players, who he finds and improves, and organizes them in a way that suits their abilities... but after the kick-off, he has little to offer in the way of strategy.
M-50 wrote:Many writing off our chances prior to today so no doubt the bandwagon is well and truly top heavy.
Our next 10 games could yield 25 points (draws v Everton, Villa, Man U, Chel) maybe win one or two of them matches
If they lost today (currently losing) Chelsea's next 10 games could yield 17 points (draws away to Brum, y**s, Newc, us, home draws v everton, villa, man u)
5 point difference could turn into us leading on Jan 1st.
Back page of the sunday world supposed exclusive wenger to move upstairs at emirates and owen coyle to replace him.They were just showing the back pages of of tomorrows paper on premier soccer saturday and this is the headline.
