As we're unlikely to see terraces again at football, this is the virtual equivalent where you can chat to your hearts content about all football matters and, obviously, Arsenal in particular. This forum encourages all Gooners to visit and contribute so please keep it respectful, clean and topical.
goonersid wrote:
All plausible, however you are forgetting one vital thing satfcm, this is Wenger we are taliking about.
He hasn't employed any kind of defensive tactic since the 2005 FA Cup final.
A very fair point, but then we all know that Wenger has a bit of an overconfidence in his side's pure footballing ability, which I think leads to him not wanting to go defensive even against Chelsea and Manchester United etc, regardless of previous encounters with them he always feels that his sides style of play can win out. It might (and it is a big might admittedly) be different this time out in Barcelona- he obviously respects their style of play and he probably isn't as confident that his side can "out football" them after he had a go at it last time and saw the result. He will know that on paper they are stronger pretty much right the way through the side (if I was Barca I wouldn't even play Fabregas from the start in many games tbh) and I suppose I am hopeful that this might just make him admit that this once he needs to change his tactics a bit.
Of course, he might well continue to be blinkered and think that his side can out pass, out move and out perform one of the best club sides of all time and this is what makes it interesting. If he goes to the Nou Camp, tries to play his normal game, and Arsenal get knocked out, I will then firmly think that his time has passed, his "project" is destined to fail and he needs to go. His seeming inability to see that he needs a keeper and to sort out the centre of his defence is already a bad sign, but if he is so stubborn as to not even change tactics when the game absolutely demands it, then he really is of no use to the club and has simply passed his sell by date
I have no fucking idea what you wrote there. I just keep staring at the two bippy's bouncing down the stairs with their lovely tits...
kingjayson1 wrote:I know this is a long shot, but can anyone guarantee me 2 tickets? I am open to offers for what ever you want in return, and I mean ANYTHING
Does that include performing the full set of your Greatest Hits album?
radford thinks this is just a desperately poor draw and infact very boring. the veiw is shit at their ground and the prices a joke. radord may well just go down the HR for both legs.
We will probably lose, yes, but you dont have great nights in European football unless you play the good teams!
Most teams can only dream of playing ties like this year on year, ideally we would have liked to have played them later. but so what, i for one am excited to watch the games - especially if we can actually take a full side to the Nou Camp unlike last time.
We can give them a game, prefer them over Madrid who would just shut up shop like United did and squeeze us out of it - cannot wait
I Hate Hleb wrote:I think this was probably the best draw we could have had. Let me explain.....
We're playing the favourites and therefore will be strong underdogs; none of us are really expecting to win, so the feeling of disappointment if/when it happens won't be as bad; similarly, an early elimination to the probable eventual winners will not be as painful as beating them and then losing to someone else; an early exit will also allow us to concentrate on the domestic competitions.
If one wanted to be positive/delusional, they could point to the fact that we don't play them for another 2 months and that will
a) allow time for Wenger to strengthen (I know, but still one can hope );
b) Barca will hopefully not be in as good form as they currently are now;
c) As they will go on a winter break, by the time of the game Barca might still be a little under-cooked in terms of getting back to their best form and might therefore be more vulnerable;
d) Sagna only misses the home leg and we will have him and hopefully TV back for the away leg.
e) Barca might have a couple of their key players injured (say Messi, Xavi and Villa) and unlike last season we could have our strongest team available ( again, one can only hope)
So, although I fear and expect elimination, in football you just never, ever know.
So you've progressed from pot to lsd hlebby.
No!!
Although to be fair, the current batch of gear I'm smoking is some extremely strong skunk Mixed with the pain-killers I'm currently taking plus the odd glass of JD, I can understand the confusion!!
goonersid wrote:
All plausible, however you are forgetting one vital thing satfcm, this is Wenger we are taliking about.
He hasn't employed any kind of defensive tactic since the 2005 FA Cup final.
A very fair point, but then we all know that Wenger has a bit of an overconfidence in his side's pure footballing ability, which I think leads to him not wanting to go defensive even against Chelsea and Manchester United etc, regardless of previous encounters with them he always feels that his sides style of play can win out. It might (and it is a big might admittedly) be different this time out in Barcelona- he obviously respects their style of play and he probably isn't as confident that his side can "out football" them after he had a go at it last time and saw the result. He will know that on paper they are stronger pretty much right the way through the side (if I was Barca I wouldn't even play Fabregas from the start in many games tbh) and I suppose I am hopeful that this might just make him admit that this once he needs to change his tactics a bit.
Of course, he might well continue to be blinkered and think that his side can out pass, out move and out perform one of the best club sides of all time and this is what makes it interesting. If he goes to the Nou Camp, tries to play his normal game, and Arsenal get knocked out, I will then firmly think that his time has passed, his "project" is destined to fail and he needs to go. His seeming inability to see that he needs a keeper and to sort out the centre of his defence is already a bad sign, but if he is so stubborn as to not even change tactics when the game absolutely demands it, then he really is of no use to the club and has simply passed his sell by date
Thing is it’s not just a question of Wenger’s willingness to apply any sort of defensive approach, it’s a question of his ability to implement a half-decent one even if he does. Even if he doesn’t go gung-ho & do the usual “just go out & playâ€
..........................Aaaaah yes, yes, but hold on one moment ....just imagine....."Imagine there's no heaven....I mean just Imagine if we DID Win!!"....
Naaah you're right we're wel and truly F U C K E D!
kingjayson1 wrote:I know this is a long shot, but can anyone guarantee me 2 tickets? I am open to offers for what ever you want in return, and I mean ANYTHING
Does that include performing the full set of your Greatest Hits album?
kingjayson1 wrote:I know this is a long shot, but can anyone guarantee me 2 tickets? I am open to offers for what ever you want in return, and I mean ANYTHING
Does that include performing the full set of your Greatest Hits album?
Let me explain.....
); 
..........................Aaaaah yes, yes, but hold on one moment ....just imagine....."Imagine there's no heaven....I mean just Imagine if we DID Win!!".... 
