BLUE MANCS UP NEXT

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:06 pm

Hey listen, if i want to argue I'll argue alright

I run an u14 side, have always played my less good players as holding mids, you know 'win the ball and give it to Sacha' type thing

I may stick Sacha in that position Sunday and see what happens

M-50 · Post by **M-50** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:08 pm

Jack just posted this on his facebook (likely tweeted it too)

Classic;

Massive game tonight - Balotelli will know who Jack Wilshere is after tonight lol

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:16 pm

I think the problem with Song and Wilshere sort having confusing roles is that Jack is still not there yet in terms of full physical development and full confidence, Song has both of those now already.

I think that right now we need more immediate goal threat up front, but in order to get that we have top weaken ourselves defensively a bit more even then. I think if any manager had their druthers they would play them the way their skills would suggest, but right now Song has like fiour league goals to Jack's one and not only is finishing better when he gets the chances but is earning more chances for himself than Jack really has.

Jack's time will come in that regard. Cesc didn't exactly overwhelm as a scorer straight away either. But right now again because of that it actually makes some sense to let Song play a bit more freely and get more involved upfront.

I think the thing to worry about is him losing the capacity to sit back deep altogether which can happen sometimes. If he had a boit more pace it wouldn't be so bad but Song doesn't - and this is why even when he has played the deeper lying role we have still been shredded by counters as either the opponents run through the center of the park unchallanged or if Song gets caught coming forward to challnge he can't get back once the ball is played in behind him quickly enough.

And with a shaky back four and questionable keepr that is not good at all.
So at least now he is getting us some goals which can off-set that a bit, and Jack offers some of the pace Song lacks tracking back and while Song is a much better on-ball defender, Jack can do just about enough on the ball to justify this tactical shift.

1989 · Post by **1989** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:17 pm

14 - Arsenal have won the last 14 league games in which Johan Djourou has played. Gem.

He'd better play Djourou.

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:17 pm

fuckin twitter and facebook

somethign aint sitting right with this particular old fogey about the yoof of today

in 10 yrs time people will be going to the cyber pub for a cyber pint and will go mths without any interaction with a human

goonersid · Post by **goonersid** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:18 pm

selsdon wrote:Hey listen, if i want to argue I'll argue alright

I run an u14 side, have always played my less good players as holding mids, you know 'win the ball and give it to Sacha' type thing

I may stick Sacha in that position Sunday and see what happens

Are you one of those people, who gets into a fight with the opposing teams parents.

psychoangus · Post by **psychoangus** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:20 pm

1989 wrote:
psychoangus wrote:I've seen Yaya playing the high pressure with Iniesta sitting deep for Barca.
Song and Yaya are different players.

Yaya is a box-to-box beast with a great engine. Song is a sitting defensive midfielder and always has been till this season.

Agreed they are different players, but it's still the same system was all I was saying.

For the record, I'm not defending it; I'm not totally convinced by it yet, but could be good in 1-2 seasons when they've got the experience to run it properly.

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:24 pm

goonersid wrote: Are you one of those people, who gets into a fight with the opposing teams parents.

No it's usually the ref or my own parents - they seem to think I'm playing their little angels in the wrong positions

You can't polish a turd I tell em

That's not fair actually, got a decent team with one or two cracking little players, Sacha being the pick. But typical of my football llife he's been out injured all season

M-50 · Post by **M-50** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:26 pm

selsdon wrote:fuckin twitter and facebook

somethign aint sitting right with this particular old fogey about the yoof of today

in 10 yrs time people will be going to the cyber pub for a cyber pint and will go mths without any interaction with a human

Over five years ago Second Life began

There's already been people paying for and shagging escorts in cyber world with real money!!!!

Post by **flash gunner** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:28 pm

selsdon wrote:fuckin twitter and facebook

somethign aint sitting right with this particular old fogey about the yoof of today

in 10 yrs time people will be going to the cyber pub for a cyber pint and will go mths without any interaction with a human

Get with the 21st century Grandad

highburyJD · Post by **highburyJD** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:31 pm

highburyJD wrote:
selsdon wrote:I can't think of any team in history where the more creative player of two has been used as the holding player.
pirlo, guardiola and xavi alonso spring to mind immediately
deep lying creators with harder working players in front of them

and each of them had the personnel/experience around them to allow this

Jack has neither[/quote]
seems u r changing your argument
no team in history has done it
switched around to - Song isnt Gattuso/Bakero/Mascherano

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:33 pm

Nah, it's all wrong - u see a bunch of kids out and about and they're all texting other people - where's the art of conversation nd sheet gone blud?

On that note I'm off to stand up because I hate Tottenham

1-1 tonite, u heard it ere first

psychoangus · Post by **psychoangus** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:46 pm

Yeah, anyway.

COME ON YOU FUCKING RIP ROARING REDS.

Bring Back Pires · Post by **Bring Back Pires** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:51 pm

selsdon wrote:in 10 yrs time people will be going to the cyber pub for a cyber pint and will go mths without any interaction with a human

They probably will be, because in ten years time the average pint probably will have reached the Â£24 mark.

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:54 pm

In The Year 2525....maybe they were right....