BLUE MANCS UP NEXT

Dan_85 · Post by **Dan_85** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:06 am

Just perusing Blue Moon forum... Christ, you'll struggle to find a bigger bunch of retarded fucknuts outside of N17.

FrenchGun · Post by **FrenchGun** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:09 am

frankbutcher wrote:
Bring Back Pires wrote:
frankbutcher wrote:I'm one of the biggest realists you can meet. IMO Wenger is past his sell-by-date by years. But to have a go at tonight's performance is quite frankly a joke. Yes the subs were poor and Arshavin is less active than a sloth, but the rest of the team were great. We couldn't score, not through lack of effort, but IMO we were unlucky.

Sometimes it's not your night. I'm certainly not going to slag our players on tonight's display.
It's just that we didn't carve out any real chances in the second half that disappointed me. Man City set their stall out, and allowed us to attack them for an entire half, yet we seemed to run out of ideas rapidly and only had a long-range shot from RVP to trouble their 'keeper with.

We played well in the first half - looked likely, fast and created many opportunities - but I thought the second half was a real letdown.
I agree. If I'm honest I think we ran out of gas. Wilshere ran out of steam big time and showed a lack of experience (as he should). The subs were made at the right time, but Arshavin was hopeless (predictable) and Chamakh should have come on for VP.

The only thing I can say in defence is that at least we weren't completely gung ho, because we could easily have been hit on the break, which we weren't. I've got to say I thought that City were hopeless defensively and in midfield. We ran rings around them for most of the night. I agree that we didn't carve out many chance second half, but we could have had three in the first half and then it would have been a different game as they would have had to attack us.

I know it's easy to get frustrated, but bizarrely I actually have a renewed confidence in the team. The closing down was great, particularly by Theo, Clichy had an excellent game. Kos and Djourou were good. Song was immense. Fab and Nasri were same old brillliant and VP seemed to be getting his touch back. This team looked like a proper first XI and that is the first time I can remember us having a set first XI for months.

Fingers crossed injury is not around the corner.

Come on you Gunners!!

(No I'm not pissed!!!)

I totally agree! And I'm not pissed either!

I didn't expect us to hold on the high tempo during the 90 min as we had a busy period lately, and seeing some players getting tired after 60 or 70 min didn't surprised me. IN fact I think our plan was to score early and break their morale quickly. Nasri and Wilshere had to be replaced as they have played a lot since the beginning of winter.
Maybe Walcott should've stayed as he was having one of his best game for some time, and I think he could've scored. Especially when you see Arshavin's contribution.

TeeCee · Post by **TeeCee** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:12 am

Thought we played pretty well overall. City were awful, there's no excuse for not trying and they were wasting time halfway through the first half!! No wonder their fans only had half the away section, who's gonna pay to see that?
For me, the substitutions were stupid. Theo was causing them problems AND was tracking back a lot and doing a good job. To replace him with the fat Russian was a big big mistake and to compound the bad decision, Wenger then brings on the elephant man - Bendtner, that's the TOUCH of an elephant! What a huge waste of space that guy is, he did not win ONE header after coming on, useless.
We need to go on a run of 5 or 6 straight wins to be in with a chance no.

FrenchGun · Post by **FrenchGun** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:26 am

xDAVEYx wrote:
FrenchGun wrote:
Naki_Gooner wrote:Is it coincidence that the two teams at the top of the prem are probably the two teams with the most solid defence? does defence win premierships? Maybe we could learn something here, probably not though.
We did learn tonight that if Djourou keeps playing like this and TV returns to his best ,we could be on par with United and Shitty in the defensive compartiment. Djourou has improved massively since his return, and I haven't felt as confident in our defense as I felt today for a long time! Song also assumed his defensive duty and will be immense if he can keep playing like that as well.

I have been critisizing Song and Djourou a lot in the past, but lately they have been impressive!
that may have something to do with city offering NOTHING going forward... haha

who'd be an arab manc fan?!

Shitty had Tevez to offer and the main reason we almost didn't see him is that Song and Djourou were constantly harrassing the apache. Both of them also made many key interceptions in various area and in various ways.

And I'd like to add that as much as I despice Shitty, they're no no-ones. They are 2nd of the league table so far. Yes, they played without Silva and Balotteli. But I can assure you that if we play like we did today in the next fixtures, we will win most of them!

Arsenal 1991 · Post by **Arsenal 1991** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:30 am

I also thought Clichy was much better today than he has been for a while. I think having arshavin in front causes a huge problem defensively because Clichy always likes to rush out and intercept but if he misses then that leaves a huge gaping hole (

).

Our back five is looking much more solid now and I really like the balance of the team. We will be unstoppable once fabregas and van persie find some form. (until they get injured again.

)

Bring Back Pires · Post by **Bring Back Pires** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:45 am

Arsenal 1991 wrote:I also thought Clichy was much better today than he has been for a while.

He didn't make any catastrophic errors (which makes a change), but was still caught out of position on a couple of occasions.

Ultimately, he's still an absolute liability and should be replaced as soon as possible.

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 3:55 am

We murdered em for the first 20 mins or so then ran out of ideas.

Simples.

Speaking of which, to see the witchhunt directed at Arshavin on this forum is fucking scandalous. Are you idiots blind?

We needed guile, finesse and a bit of genius to break City down yet we didn't bring the one player on who has any of those traits until 70 mins.

City done a job tonite, one which a certain George Graham would be proud of and despite us playing well to me they look the more serious title contendors.

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:05 am

Selsdon

Arshavin has been one of the most popular recent players on here and amongst fans in general, precisely because of his excellent technical skills.

But to call people idiots for criticising him, to question our eyesight, shows that you are the one who is biased towards Arshavin.

For all his flashes of skill, his work rate is poor, and his stamina questionable.

For a year he has looked far from the expensive player who gave us good performances in the second half of the 2008 - 2009 season.

To the extent that Walcott is now preferred ahead of him in the starting line up for big games, because even when Walcott has a bad game, he at least offers pace and work rate.
When Arshavin has a bad game, he offers next to nothing.

selsdon · Post by **selsdon** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 4:14 am

He shouldn't have even been bought on tonite according to some. That is total bollocks isn't it?

He has been a major influence for us this season - I'm amazed people can't see this.

Eboue has cult status, fans love Theo's effort but Andrey Arshavin is villified because he doesn't track back enough.

He gives us that little something most teams don't possess but because he speaks his mind, a la Gallas, he's not a team player.

Wish him out all you want but we will be a much poorer outfit for it.

Post by **g88ner** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:00 am

selsdon wrote:to see the witchhunt directed at Arshavin on this forum is fucking scandalous. Are you idiots blind?

This coming from the bloke who hoped Arsenal got "raped" by Birmingham on Saturday!

Seriously, when you come out with ridiculous stuff like hoping we lose, I really don't think you should be calling others idiots, surely?

It's surely possible to give an opinion without going overboard, isn't it?

augie · Post by **augie** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:09 am

I do not agree with abusing other members on this forum g88ner and you know that so to call other people idiots (even though compared to some of the insults on here it is mild) is wrong. However what I will also say is that the "hope we get raped by brum" comments seems to be a stick that is continually thrown at selsdon now and I dont agree with that. From what I see the guy reacted to another shitty performance away v wigan and lashed out saying something that in all likelihood he didnt mean and as far as I am concerned it is something we have all done (albeit not the same comment). How many of us have in the past, on the back of a dire performance and result, proclaimed that we are finished supporting these *word censored* (and I am not just talking about this era either) only to calm down a day or two later and return to pledge allegiance to the cause again ? Selsdon went overboard but unless he really meant it then continually bringing it up and using it to deflect away from any opinions he has had since is wrong imo

Post by **g88ner** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:34 am

augie wrote:I do not agree with abusing other members on this forum g88ner and you know that so to call other people idiots (even though compared to some of the insults on here it is mild) is wrong. However what I will also say is that the "hope we get raped by brum" comments seems to be a stick that is continually thrown at selsdon now and I dont agree with that. From what I see the guy reacted to another shitty performance away v wigan and lashed out saying something that in all likelihood he didnt mean and as far as I am concerned it is something we have all done (albeit not the same comment). How many of us have in the past, on the back of a dire performance and result, proclaimed that we are finished supporting these c**ts (and I am not just talking about this era either) only to calm down a day or two later and return to pledge allegiance to the cause again ? Selsdon went overboard but unless he really meant it then continually bringing it up and using it to deflect away from any opinions he has had since is wrong imo

People are responsible for what they post - and if they don't mean it, they shouldn't write it.

In the last few days he's hoped we get raped by Birmingham and called people on here idiots - and I've hardly read any of his posts as I've not been on here much, so I'm assuming there's more controversial remarks.

Anyway, perhaps they were isolated cases and he's actually a decent chap - but if you can't judge a person on what they writes, what can you judge them on?

augie · Post by **augie** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:38 am

Actions speak louder than words surely ? I mean on here I can be viewed (somewhat harshly I agree

) as a negative person but sit at the games beside me and you will see me right behind the team and singing and chanting as much as the next person.........sometimes people just need to vent and maybe, and I dont know the guy so I am just saying maybe, that is what he was doing ?

Btw there was nothing more contentious said in your absence

marcengels · Post by **marcengels** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:40 am

g88ner wrote:
augie wrote:I do not agree with abusing other members on this forum g88ner and you know that so to call other people idiots (even though compared to some of the insults on here it is mild) is wrong. However what I will also say is that the "hope we get raped by brum" comments seems to be a stick that is continually thrown at selsdon now and I dont agree with that. From what I see the guy reacted to another shitty performance away v wigan and lashed out saying something that in all likelihood he didnt mean and as far as I am concerned it is something we have all done (albeit not the same comment). How many of us have in the past, on the back of a dire performance and result, proclaimed that we are finished supporting these c**ts (and I am not just talking about this era either) only to calm down a day or two later and return to pledge allegiance to the cause again ? Selsdon went overboard but unless he really meant it then continually bringing it up and using it to deflect away from any opinions he has had since is wrong imo
People are responsible for what they post - and if they don't mean it, they shouldn't write it.

In the last few days he's hoped we get raped by Birmingham and called people on here idiots - and I've hardly read any of his posts as I've not been on here much, so I'm assuming there's more controversial remarks.

Anyway, perhaps they were isolated cases and he's actually a decent chap - but if you can't judge a person on what they writes, what can you judge them on?

Their height?

Post by **g88ner** » Thu Jan 06, 2011 8:52 am

augie wrote:Actions speak louder than words surely ? I mean on here I can be viewed (somewhat harshly I agree) as a negative person but sit at the games beside me and you will see me right behind the team and singing and chanting as much as the next person.........sometimes people just need to vent and maybe, and I dont know the guy so I am just saying maybe, that is what he was doing ?

Btw there was nothing more contentious said in your absence

I agree that actions speak louder than words, but this is a forum where the only contact we have with each other is through posting our views... in words!

therefore, saying actions speak louder than words can only go so far.

We make judgements based on the evidence we have, and despite your negative slant on things, I respect your views for their honesty - and for the fact you don't throw around insults. Others do, and I think lesser of them for it.