Years of ‘non-Arsenal’ kits on the horizon? (9/5)

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Years of ‘non-Arsenal’ kits on the horizon? (9/5)

Post by gooner.ed »

usual thread starter... so there are always going to be two away kits, a new one every year. it'll be yellow one year and then another colour the next. we've had blue more than once and now it looks like white with maroon. guess if we have to have this third kit, then it is always going to be a colour that we don't consider an arsenal one...

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Post by shiftygooner »

Personally I don't mind the idea of a white kit.

Just because Spurs wear predominantly white doesn't mean anything to me. They are an irrelevance and should not be considered in any matters concerning Arsenal.

Obviously the club wants to sell more shirts. What is wrong with this? The vast majority of shirts sold are adult sizes, and if people want to spend their money to show their support, then good on them.

The fact that replica shirts are so popular proves that people want them. It is just common sense really, and lets be honest, if we can put up with all blue, green and blue and the tractor tyre shirt, then we can put up with an all white kit.

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What's the problem?

Post by barronvonbomburst »

I'm having difficulty understanding the mock outrage that the idea of Arsenal wearing a predominantly white shirt as any away strip next year seems to have generated.

It's been established practice of the club to rotate their 3 kits annually. The home shirt is changed every other year, while the 2 away are rotated and replace in the intervening seasons. One of these away strips is usually yellow and blue (ideal for the traditionalist market), this allows the design guru's @ Nike to think outside the box with the 3rd strip. It just so happens that they have always previously gone down the all-blue route.

Next season, the yellow kit (now the 3rd strip) will still be with us and with the amount of red(currant) in the 'white' kit, should still get regular outings. I don't seem to recall similar a outcry when the cursed all blue kit (just like Chelsea) was unveiled? Things could be a lot worse, like having 2 new kits thrust upon you every year (just like Chelsea).

What's more, Herbert Chapman would have approved... ....apparently (Yet to be confirmed by a clairvoyant)?? :wink:

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Those who do not mind a white kit do not understand the history of Arsenal. White is what the Spuds wear. Need I say no more!

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Post by shiftygooner »

Arsenal Analysis, what does the colour of Spurs home shirt have to do with the history of Arsenal?

As I have previously posted, I am sure I have already seen Arsenal play in white, during the mid-70s away at Luton (anyone else remember?).

If you do not like the idea of a white kit, that is fine by me. But, please, no more posts intimating that those who don't mind are not proper Arsenal fans as this is just crass.

Surely Arsenal should not make decisions on the basis of what the other lot down the road do or don't do?

Anyway, it will make a change to see a team from North London wearing white actually playing in the Champions League. :D

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Post by sebasvard »

It's not white, it's white and redcurrant. The side panels are redcurrant, the shorts are redcurrant, the socks are redcurrant/white hoops. We've had kits with dark blue shorts before, which is the same as Spurs - oh the horror! Should we eliminate the white sleeves and white socks on the home kit because Spurs use white too? Obviously not. Yes this is a third kit, yes football is an increasingly commercialised game now, yes the club want to make money out of the fans (name me a club that doesn't!) - having three kits is going to be a fact of life from now on. The 1st away kit will ALWAYS be yellow, the club have said so in the past. The 2nd away kit will be the one that changes, which I personally don't mind, bit of variety is a good thing. If people don't like the design, don't buy it. If they want to protest to the club, fine - not fair to have a go at loyal supporters who support the club financially by buying it.

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Post by GaryThwaites »

Of course its up to the individual fans how they spend their money and if they want a white kit, then so be it. My point is that the club is trying to sell us something that completely breaks with tradition on the basis that this is somehow traditional. Its makes no sense, particularly in the light of the post-Dein board's attempt to paint themselves as the bastions of old school values.

To launch a white kit which is so closely linked with our nearest and most bitter rivals is a unarguably a significant break from tradition. The motive is to make money, its as simple as that. However, I wouldn't mind so much if any of that money was actually spent on players rather than growing our property portfolio or massaging the share price, but that’s another rant for another day.

By the way, I was equally unhappy with the blue kit and I doubt we ever played in white at Luton given that that has always been their own first team colour, but I could be wrong.

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White away kit NO

Post by Ruby »

Your have to prise my cold dead fingers off my Yellow shirt before I'll wear White god dam it. Our away kit is Yellow and if a bunch of trendy leftie vegetarian tree hugging druids wish to hand over years of tradition so easily then why don't we just change our name as well we could be called Spursnal. Yes I'm an old gooner and proud of I'd rather be an old gooner then a young spineless give in to corporate greed toady

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Post by sebasvard »

I suppose all these white kit haters never wear a white shirt to work, or a white t-shirt on holiday, or white overalls on the job....

Is this really an attempt to disassociate the club with its history? Hardly. It's just a kit decision. Probably one made by someone who thought, 'ooh white looks good with most things, we'll shift bucketloads of the buggers'

Admittedly if I was designing an away kit for us, then I wouldn't have gone down the white route for the very reasons everyone's mentioning. But I'm damned if I'm going to kick up a fuss about a one-off, destined to be used about 30 times max, not unattractive football kit. The team, the club, the history are bigger than corporate effing policy. So get over it - just another small footnote in the encyclopedia of Arsenal :shock:

I mean it's not as if we haven't ALREADY seen the rape of the club by the moneymen. What did you think was going to happen, a return to the good old days? Forget it. Not going to happen. We're selling out, everyone's selling out, and if you want continued success at the club then there's no alternative until the laws regulating the game are changed. Enjoy the wait.

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Post by Cus Geezer »

As I have previously posted, I am sure I have already seen Arsenal play in white, during the mid-70s away at Luton (anyone else remember?).
I think you'll find that Luton were the ones in white.

Call me old fashioned but I want Arsenal to look like Arsenal. I don't like the white home socks, because our tradition is the red socks. Seeing the new players in the old colours reminds you that they're wearing what Rocastle, George and Brady etc wore albeit with the odd minor change.

I could handle the odd deviation for a season, I quite liked the blue of 2002/3, but I wouldn't want to open the door to continual stream of non-Arsenal colours.

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Post by shiftygooner »

I see no-one else remembers this so maybe I was wrong about playing in white. But in the mid-70s Luton played in Orange so it is possible.

http://www.toffs.com/invt/1136

How would I go about finding out what kit we wore.

The match was midweek on Tuesday 25th March 1975 (they were only up for one season) and we lost 0-2.

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Post by gunner67 »

who cares what the away kit is?? As long as we don't lose our red shirts and white sleeves I'm not bothered. I do like the yellow and blue away kit, but you vote with your wallets don't you?

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Post by Cus Geezer »

Its a shame we didn't keep the 2003/4 away kit for longer, the yellow and blue-that-looks-more-blue-than-it-does-black, like the 70s cup final kits.

The club should do another one of these, with the single cannon in the middle of the shirt like this...

http://www.toffs.com/invt/1008.

Apperantly yellow only dates from the 1950 Cup Final, does any of the trivia buffs know what the away kit was prior to this then?

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