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So Cesc made a crack about Everton bribing the ref. Let's be honest here, when we first heard Moyes claim that Cesc said something 'disgusting' to the ref and 4th Official, most of us probably thought he had sworn at them or said something really bad. But for Moyes and the media to make a scene out of that? Really. :roll: :oops: :oops:

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goonersid wrote:Moyes has accused Cesc of accusing the ref of taking a payment from Everton, so that means Cesc said something like "fuck me they must have paid you".
The media just won'y let this one go :roll:
Course not there's very little happening now after the 'frenzied excitement' (press term not mine) of the transfer window, and of course Cesc ain't English like rooney who abuses ref's at every single game and so they will tey and do an 'eduardo' on him...

The thing is moyes has contradicted himself..in the interview he gave to the BBC (see link below) he says that he doesn't want cesc or Arsenal to be 'done' by the FA, why the fuck then is he stirring the shit..one reason and one reason only

Sore Scumbag LOSER!

LOSER!
LOSER!
LOSER!!

:awnker:

C U N T !

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 387974.stm
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Seem to recall that Gollum once implied that Prattenburg was a biased refferee isn't that questioning the integrity of the ref.

It's pretty obvious he's doing the job of the wanker from Govan and trying to get Cesc banned in the hope that it will affect our chances of catching them up.

I fully expect him to stick his nose in as well.

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Dont particulary think Cesc is showing himself in good light lately, appealing for a red card for Hudds defende and now accusing Everton of bribing the ref, we dont do that sort of thing over here

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slag wrote:Dont particulary think Cesc is showing himself in good light lately, appealing for a red card for Hudds defende and now accusing Everton of bribing the ref, we dont do that sort of thing over here
Usually I detest that kind of thing - whether it be an Arsenal player or not - Flamini used to and eboue does it...But, seeing as we'd had a defender red carded for a feck all foul...I fully empathise with Cesc on this one - especially as it WAS a Red Card...last defender etc...

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slag wrote:Dont particulary think Cesc is showing himself in good light lately, appealing for a red card for Hudds defende and now accusing Everton of bribing the ref, we dont do that sort of thing over here
Not appealing for a player to be red carded but asking why it's one rule for SS18 and another for the Huddersfield player.

This debate is and always will be one rule for Johnny foreigner and another for good old salt of the earth brits........

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Build a bridge Moyes and get over it.

My Everton supporting mate phoned me last night to complain about our Manager being out of order. I reminded him about Moyes previous and the fact the goal was offside. Also we won. :barscarf:

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slag wrote:Dont particulary think Cesc is showing himself in good light lately, appealing for a red card for Hudds defender
If the referee won't do his job properly, then it's natural for Fabregas to tell him how to do it.

I've no problem with imaginary card waving. More often than not, it's a request that the referee treats both teams fairly, rather than a personal vendetta to get another professional sent off.
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Bring Back Pires wrote:
slag wrote:Dont particulary think Cesc is showing himself in good light lately, appealing for a red card for Hudds defender
If the referee won't do his job properly, then it's natural for Fabregas to tell him how to do it.

I've no problem with imaginary card waving. More often than not, it's a request that the referee treats both teams fairly rather, than a personal vendetta to get another professional sent off.
Exactly mate, especially in that case, i mean we have a blatent red card given, after the referee gave there penalty and then somehow managed to provide there defender with just a yellow card is laughable and completely inconsistant. The refereeing midweek was atrocious, EVERY single decision was going Everton's way, they gave a goal that never was, from the first 3 minutes when wilshire was booked for next to nothing you know it was going to be one of those days, Fellaini made at least 10 fouls in that game, and one of them a blatent hack when we were on the counter attack, ref dont pull him back and book him yet Rosicky gets booked for a challenge which clearly wasnt worthy of a booking.

I've come to the conclusion ref's are fucking wankers. Want respect? Ref the fucking game properly, it cant be hard when you have 60,000 other people seeing the incident and your the only one who cant?

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we need a leader like Cesc if we're going to win something this season :barscarf:

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I stand up for Cesc, its about time we had someone with bollocks who stands up to shit decisions given against us.

I would be exactly the same about the shirt business as well if I'd been playing against players who were trying to kick me off the park then after the game they asked me for my shirt - fuck off!

This is why Cesc asked how much Everton were paying the ref

RefWatch – Arsenal v Everton (01/02/2011 19:45)

Victory Through Harmony
RefWatch – Arsenal v Everton (01/02/2011 19:45)

By DogFace

Referee: Lee Mason
Assistant 1: Stephen Child
Assistant 2: Patrick Keane
4th Official: Kevin Wright [who?!]

Good afternoon stat-fans and welcome to your favourite time of the week; it’s Ref Watch time! This week we have Lee Mason – who you may recall we were going to have for the Stoke game before it was cancelled due to snow… he brought Patrick Keane along that day too – what are the odds eh! Anyway – now he’s back and he has a job to do. Some bloke called Kevin is the 4th Official – I’ve never heard of him (he’s a ‘National Group’ ref rather than a ‘Select Group’ one) and I have no data about him with regards to Arsenal or Everton so I’m assuming he is along for the ride as Mason’s gimp, y’know – so he can keep his gob shut, do what he’s told and see how things are done in the Select Group… so to speak.

Let’s have a look at Referee Free Mason… sorry, I mean ‘Lee Mason’:

Full name: Lee S Mason
Date of birth: 29 October 1971 (1971-10-29) (age 39)
Place of birth: Bolton, Lancashire, England
EPL Referee Since: 2005/2006
EPL Games to date: 73

If I were facin’ t’ map o’ t’ England, this would be me top team!

Yes – he’s a northerner and from Bolton; from whence the maternal side of the DogFace clan hails from – although they started out in Merseyside [as an aside] after getting off the boat from Ireland… he looks a bit Irish come to think of it; I wonder who his dad supported?! Anyway – I’m sure it’s unrelated BUT Lee studied at the Liverpool Institute of Higher Education; which is an institute with a Catholic history.

Want me to join the dots up for you too?

What… you do? OK – let’s do just that and check out how Arsenal perform under the whistle of Free, I mean Lee, sorry – of course I mean Lee:

Lee Mason has had 5 games for Arsenal consisting of 1 win, 2 draws and 2 losses.

Arsenal are currently in 10th in Lee Mason’s personal Points Per Game League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, with an average of 1.00 PPG.

In Lee Mason’s personal Handicap Swing League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, Arsenal come 7th with an average negative swing of -0.20.

Arsenal are currently in 13th in Lee Mason’s personal Booking’s Per Match League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, with an overall average of 2.80 BPM.

In Lee Mason’s personal Fouls Per Booking League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, Arsenal come 14th with an overall average of 3.50 FPB.

So all in all that’s pretty shocking – if we had Lee every game we would be looking forward to a relegation battle – we are way down on his foul tables too… although these figures are misleading when not taken into context, it is positively outrageous when you consider how the Catholic side of Liverpool [Everton] fare under the whistle of Lee Probert:

Lee Mason has had 11 games for Everton consisting of 6 wins, 4 draws and 1 loss.

Everton are currently in 2nd in Lee Mason’s personal Points Per Game League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, with an average of 2.00 PPG.

In Lee Mason’s personal Handicap Swing League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, Everton come 4th with an average positive swing of +0.70.

Everton are currently in 2nd in Lee Mason’s personal Booking’s Per Match League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, with an overall average of 1.00 BPM.

In Lee Mason’s personal Fouls Per Booking League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, Everton come 2nd with an overall average of 13.73 FPB…. yeah that’s over 10 more than Arsenal – and that’s just the ones he called as a foul; as we have seen from Walter’s recent astute analysis into this – these can be way off the mark. Check out the 2009/2010 season where he blew the roof off the chart by letting Everton get away with an eyebrow raising 34 [and counting] FPB… they got 3 PPG that season – so put that into context and smoke it.

Well, what to expect from this ref? To be honest with you I’m not exactly brimming with confidence that we’ll get anything close to a ‘home advantage’, which is nothing new – the Emirates isn’t exactly Old Trafford in that respect – so we’ll have to put out a strong side to play an interception and possession game giving Lee no excuses to card us out of the challenge, send a player off or give a penalty.

I can see Everton players being cynical with the small stuff to break up play and given ‘carte blanche’ to go into the challenge [in a more English than French way] without repercussions and flinging themselves to the floor to win a free kick whenever they lose the ball.

They will get everything, we will get nothing – the ‘fans’ will proclaim we are useless (using among other words ‘pathetic’) and reiterate that Wenger should have bought that mythical centre back [that the tabloids insist we are missing]… and, no doubt, the Everton fans will no doubt start singing at some point “Same old Arsenal always cheatingâ€

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I stand up for Cesc, its about time we had someone with bollocks who stands up to shit decisions given against us.

I would be exactly the same about the shirt business as well if I'd been playing against players who were trying to kick me off the park then after the game they asked me for my shirt - fuck off!

This is why Cesc asked how much Everton were paying the ref

RefWatch – Arsenal v Everton (01/02/2011 19:45)

Victory Through Harmony
RefWatch – Arsenal v Everton (01/02/2011 19:45)

By DogFace

Referee: Lee Mason
Assistant 1: Stephen Child
Assistant 2: Patrick Keane
4th Official: Kevin Wright [who?!]

Good afternoon stat-fans and welcome to your favourite time of the week; it’s Ref Watch time! This week we have Lee Mason – who you may recall we were going to have for the Stoke game before it was cancelled due to snow… he brought Patrick Keane along that day too – what are the odds eh! Anyway – now he’s back and he has a job to do. Some bloke called Kevin is the 4th Official – I’ve never heard of him (he’s a ‘National Group’ ref rather than a ‘Select Group’ one) and I have no data about him with regards to Arsenal or Everton so I’m assuming he is along for the ride as Mason’s gimp, y’know – so he can keep his gob shut, do what he’s told and see how things are done in the Select Group… so to speak.

Let’s have a look at Referee Free Mason… sorry, I mean ‘Lee Mason’:

Full name: Lee S Mason
Date of birth: 29 October 1971 (1971-10-29) (age 39)
Place of birth: Bolton, Lancashire, England
EPL Referee Since: 2005/2006
EPL Games to date: 73

If I were facin’ t’ map o’ t’ England, this would be me top team!

Yes – he’s a northerner and from Bolton; from whence the maternal side of the DogFace clan hails from – although they started out in Merseyside [as an aside] after getting off the boat from Ireland… he looks a bit Irish come to think of it; I wonder who his dad supported?! Anyway – I’m sure it’s unrelated BUT Lee studied at the Liverpool Institute of Higher Education; which is an institute with a Catholic history.

Want me to join the dots up for you too?

What… you do? OK – let’s do just that and check out how Arsenal perform under the whistle of Free, I mean Lee, sorry – of course I mean Lee:

Lee Mason has had 5 games for Arsenal consisting of 1 win, 2 draws and 2 losses.

Arsenal are currently in 10th in Lee Mason’s personal Points Per Game League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, with an average of 1.00 PPG.

In Lee Mason’s personal Handicap Swing League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, Arsenal come 7th with an average negative swing of -0.20.

Arsenal are currently in 13th in Lee Mason’s personal Booking’s Per Match League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, with an overall average of 2.80 BPM.

In Lee Mason’s personal Fouls Per Booking League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, Arsenal come 14th with an overall average of 3.50 FPB.

So all in all that’s pretty shocking – if we had Lee every game we would be looking forward to a relegation battle – we are way down on his foul tables too… although these figures are misleading when not taken into context, it is positively outrageous when you consider how the Catholic side of Liverpool [Everton] fare under the whistle of Lee Probert:

Lee Mason has had 11 games for Everton consisting of 6 wins, 4 draws and 1 loss.

Everton are currently in 2nd in Lee Mason’s personal Points Per Game League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, with an average of 2.00 PPG.

In Lee Mason’s personal Handicap Swing League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, Everton come 4th with an average positive swing of +0.70.

Everton are currently in 2nd in Lee Mason’s personal Booking’s Per Match League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, with an overall average of 1.00 BPM.

In Lee Mason’s personal Fouls Per Booking League (for teams with a minimum of 5 matches played), for matches in the EPL, Everton come 2nd with an overall average of 13.73 FPB…. yeah that’s over 10 more than Arsenal – and that’s just the ones he called as a foul; as we have seen from Walter’s recent astute analysis into this – these can be way off the mark. Check out the 2009/2010 season where he blew the roof off the chart by letting Everton get away with an eyebrow raising 34 [and counting] FPB… they got 3 PPG that season – so put that into context and smoke it.

Well, what to expect from this ref? To be honest with you I’m not exactly brimming with confidence that we’ll get anything close to a ‘home advantage’, which is nothing new – the Emirates isn’t exactly Old Trafford in that respect – so we’ll have to put out a strong side to play an interception and possession game giving Lee no excuses to card us out of the challenge, send a player off or give a penalty.

I can see Everton players being cynical with the small stuff to break up play and given ‘carte blanche’ to go into the challenge [in a more English than French way] without repercussions and flinging themselves to the floor to win a free kick whenever they lose the ball.

They will get everything, we will get nothing – the ‘fans’ will proclaim we are useless (using among other words ‘pathetic’) and reiterate that Wenger should have bought that mythical centre back [that the tabloids insist we are missing]… and, no doubt, the Everton fans will no doubt start singing at some point “Same old Arsenal always cheatingâ€

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Jesus fucking Christ!

How inbred do you have to be to compile referee stats?

Still, if it stops them murdering prostitutes fair do's I say!

8)

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Percy Dalton wrote:Jesus fucking Christ!

How inbred do you have to be to compile referee stats?

Still, if it stops them murdering prostitutes fair do's I say!

8)
just showing a dumb monkey like you a bit of pre match intelligence of what to expect and he was right! Shit For Brains! get a life!

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delgooner wrote:
Percy Dalton wrote:Jesus fucking Christ!

How inbred do you have to be to compile referee stats?

Still, if it stops them murdering prostitutes fair do's I say!

8)
just showing a dumb monkey like you a bit of pre match intelligence of what to expect and he was right! Shit For Brains! get a life!
:lol:

It wasn't an insult aimed at you personally as I don't even know if it you are the Dogface character who complied these informative gems.

Anyhow, thank you for the complimentary remarks. I hope the 5.23 from locomotive from Bristol turns out to be the one you really hope it is.

:D

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