drinking in view of the pitch

Post by **QuartzGooner** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:11 am

Surely they have to prove you were disorderly? If you were just drunk but not being a menace to others, is that actually an offence?

Plus is possessing alcohol at the ground actually illegal, or just a UEFA rule?

Meanwhile touts openly do business all around the ground

mrgnu1958 · Post by **mrgnu1958** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:51 am

minty99 wrote:last night at the match like a total idiot i was arrested for drinking in view of the pitch (can of lager) and drunk and disorderley.
was taken to the police station and am due to appear in highbury magistates court next week.
whilst at the police station i fully coperated and admitted the charge.
There is no excuse for this and it was totally my fault.
What i need to know has it happened to anyone else on here and whats the worst that can happen to me.
any advice greatly recieved.
cheers

I really hope you get away with this Mint"y.
Its a joke when lots worse things are happening in this world..
I DO hope you were behaving though?

cardinal2011 · Post by **cardinal2011** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 7:35 am

The maximum fine you can receive for Drunk and Disorderly is a fine of one thousand pounds (more likely to be about 100 - 200). However this does count as a relevant conviction under The Football Spectators Act 1989 where the court can impose a football banning order -

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1989/37/section/14A

Banning orders made on conviction of an offence.

.(1)This section applies where a person (the â€œoffenderâ€

Post by **REB** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:20 am

going to football in the 21st century just gets worse and worse

Glitch33 · Post by **Glitch33** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:38 am

Depends which section Minty has been charged under. Could be summed up as "Pissed and lippy"

http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/publ ... #Section_5

Drunk and Disorderly contrary to Section 91 CJA 1967: disorderly behaviour

* Section 5 of the Act:
o threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour
* Section 4A of the Act:
o threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour
* Section 4(1)(a):
o threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour towards another person

Drunk and Disorderly contrary to Section 91 CJA 1967: in any public place

* Section 5 of the Act:
o in a public or private place (but not when confined to a dwelling house - see footnote)
* Section 4A of the Act:
o in a public or private place (but not when confined to a dwelling house - see footnote)
* Section 4(1)(a):
o in a public or private place (but not when confined to a dwelling house - see footnote)

Drunk and Disorderly contrary to Section 91 CJA 1967: while drunk

* Section 5 of the Act:
o With intention or awareness that behaviour may be disorderly; or with intention or awareness that such behaviour may be threatening, abusive or insulting
o within the hearing or sight of a person likely to be caused harassment, alarm or distress
* Section 4A of the Act:
o with intent to cause and thereby causing harassment, alarm or distress
* Section 4(1)(a):
o Either: with intent to cause that person to believe that immediate unlawful violence will be used against him or another by any person
o or: with intent to provoke the immediate use of unlawful violence by that person or another
o or: whereby that person is likely to believe that such violence will be used
o or: it is likely that such violence will be provoked

Rocky Number Seven · Post by **Rocky Number Seven** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 9:14 am

Dan_85 wrote:
RNTGOONER wrote:the whole of holaway rd and areas around the ground are no drinking zones now as well - it makes me sick, who are they protecting and from what?
The thing with this was, I thought they were only gonna take alcohol off you if you were causing trouble, yet they seem to have gone completely power crazy with it as usual. Yesterday on Hornsey Road, outside the Costcutter, there was a line of OB taking cans off everyone who went past - just innocent guys having a drink, causing no trouble at all. Pisstake.

To be fair they have been doing this since the start of the season not just weds night. At the bolton game they actually watched me walk out of there (Costcutter) with a few cans and then as soon as I opened one they made me chuck them away. Sure somebody said when this was discussed before that once you are up the stairs/over the bridges and just outside the ground they cant do anything as you are on private property and not a public highway?

On another note, for most night games throughout the winter i have a hip flask with something to "warm me up" on the cold nights - stewards have openly seen me chugging away during games and have never done anything? Whats the difference between that and a can of lager?

Glitch33 · Post by **Glitch33** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:07 am

Anyone got a link to the law on drinking in sight of pitch?

LDB · Post by **LDB** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:10 am

safcftm wrote:
RNTGOONER wrote:is this what england has come to arrested for drinking beer at a match
It's fucking shit mate. You can drink in view of a pitch if you're at a rugby match or a cricket match like, I can even drink in my seat at the stadium of light if I'm watching a concert, but do it at football and it's a banning offence. They still think all fans are mindless hooligans who can't be trusted even though we are now paying a fucking fortune to watch our teams. Treat anyone else who pays a lot for entertainment like football fans are treated and there would be hell on, but they get away with it every time against football fans. Clubs and police / stewards = scum

We really need to start some protests or at least try collectively to get our voices heard..

I emailed my MP trying to get him to support a safe-standing bill but never got a reply. Im sure the idea of thousands of football fans descending on parliament would make them sit up & take notice

rigsby · Post by **rigsby** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:12 am

Should organise a mass drinking protest right by the big ARSENAL letters.

Boomer · Post by **Boomer** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:18 am

Rocky Number Seven wrote:
Dan_85 wrote:
RNTGOONER wrote:the whole of holaway rd and areas around the ground are no drinking zones now as well - it makes me sick, who are they protecting and from what?
The thing with this was, I thought they were only gonna take alcohol off you if you were causing trouble, yet they seem to have gone completely power crazy with it as usual. Yesterday on Hornsey Road, outside the Costcutter, there was a line of OB taking cans off everyone who went past - just innocent guys having a drink, causing no trouble at all. Pisstake.
To be fair they have been doing this since the start of the season not just weds night. At the bolton game they actually watched me walk out of there (Costcutter) with a few cans and then as soon as I opened one they made me chuck them away. Sure somebody said when this was discussed before that once you are up the stairs/over the bridges and just outside the ground they cant do anything as you are on private property and not a public highway?

On another note, for most night games throughout the winter i have a hip flask with something to "warm me up" on the cold nights - stewards have openly seen me chugging away during games and have never done anything? Whats the difference between that and a can of lager?

Yeah it was probably me.

If you look there is a sign, tiny thing, by the Cannons outside the Armoury there a sign which says. "Alcohol fee zone" or something. But thatâ€™s the boundary.

I found this
http://www.flickr.com/photos/perryolf/4866952658/

Now I'm no expert at this and I'm not 100% on the rule but it seems odd that the old bill are always on the periphery of the Grove.
Yet as soon as your outside the gate people seemed to be freely drinking and there's can's everywhere.

Glitch33 · Post by **Glitch33** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:39 am

There are laws to deal with drunken and agressive behaviour. That should be enough for the OB to intervene when necessary.

Stopping drinking in the streets is an infringement of peoples rights.

Nothing stopping someone getting legless in a pub next to the supermarket.

No real offence has been committed by swigging from a can. What exactly are they trying to prevent?

These laws are made, upheld and prosecuted by rugby fans who can't undertand why everyone can't mix together to watch a game.

LuckyRedGString · Post by **LuckyRedGString** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:32 am

digger wrote:That's bollocks mate, surely a warning and making you shit yourself is enough of a punishment?

If Roly is truly a top level lawyer, now is the time for him to not be a c**t and help a gooner. I wouldn't hold your breath though, unless you like the colour blue.

Roly is moving offices so isn't on line so he wont see this, but if you pm him he might be able to help

LuckyRedGString · Post by **LuckyRedGString** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:32 am

digger wrote:That's bollocks mate, surely a warning and making you shit yourself is enough of a punishment?

If Roly is truly a top level lawyer, now is the time for him to not be a c**t and help a gooner. I wouldn't hold your breath though, unless you like the colour blue.

Roly is moving offices so isn't on line so he wont see this, but if you pm him he might be able to help

Post by **flash gunner** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:35 am

LuckyRed got any spare seats to Barca?

Hope you get yourself sorted Minty its a fucking pisstake arresting and charging you for this

enjibenji · Post by **enjibenji** » Fri Feb 18, 2011 11:40 am

ive seen a guy get down at the emirates for smoking some bob marley at half time.

the thing that makes me laugh even more though was did he really think that not one person around him was going to say to the stewards, fucking idiot

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