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Sutch · Post by **Sutch** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:20 pm

What a fucking load of fucking spineless shit, I thought they might learn from fucking Birmingham, but no yet again they fuck up when the chance is right there. As long as Denilson, Rosicky, Clichy, Bendtner all get their 100 grand a week and new contracts though right? What a shit seven days this has been

treygoony · Post by **treygoony** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:23 pm

If that was bacon face and rooney scored an onside goal that was given off he's guaranteed to get somebody sakced.

That's why the officials shit themselves when it comes to united cause they don't want to get sacked so they give utd all the decisions. But if Wenger starts to argue it's just "oh typical wenger with your excuses".

Pisses me off

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:25 pm

Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:
USMartin wrote:That refereeing crew should not see another Premiership pitch this season at least. That is the kind of thing that almost makes one wonder about match-fixing it was so blantantly and consistently poor and incomptent. If that was Italy or Germany somenewsapper would be round the betting houses already to check if there was odd activity. Two of worst decisions I have seen in years.

Still that we again are down to decrying bad decisions against a team like Sundereland because two or three players are missing is RUBBISH. We never had to rely on the refs(not that ever could) from 2002-2005, because we didn't have all our quality in the first eleven only.[/quote]

I agree with this, i do - but i would also say that we never had the extensive injuries we have now back then - so it was never really tested, but i do agree.

The title isnt over, but this is a blow - i would say if i thought the perfoamnce was shit - but in that second half i saw 11 red and whites fighting for the win, i cant ask for more than that as a supporter.

Today will not lose us the league - Spuds 2-3 and Newcastle 4-4 will.

Not trying to pick a fight but in 2001-2002 we had as many if not more injuries. Hell Igors Stepanovs was starting in central defence in the start of the final push to the title in March that year - literally our fifth choice in central defence benind Campbell Adams Keown and Upson that year at the start. We lost one Premiership Footballer of the Year in February that year and Freddie emerged as a second winner of another Footballer of the Year award after that. We had three keepers earn Champions Medals that year because of the injuries in that position. We had two players with broken legs one with a serious knee injury.

And 2002-2003 wasn't too much better for lost games for our regulars though some of those were down to - get ready - some shit reffing as well as injuries.

cj88 · Post by **cj88** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:26 pm

defleppardisking wrote:
cj88 wrote:
defleppardisking wrote:I refused to blame the referee. I blame Wenger and his bunch of pussies. How many more of this shit do we have to put up with. It's so unbelievable
bunch of pussies? What game were you watching?
The same game as you were just watching

The fact that Denilson and Diaby are shite and can't play in well with Wilshere in midfield doesn't make them pussies, just makes Denilson and Diaby shite. We were a lot more threatening when Chamakh came on.

Overall, credit to Sagna (this bloke runs his socks off day in and day out and goes unnoticed for the most bit), Nasri, Wilshere, Szczesny, Djourou, Koscielny and Arshavin. I still have my doubts with Clichy..We weren't good enough in the first half and were robbed by the ref in the second.

just my 2 cents.

Irish Gooner · Post by **Irish Gooner** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:26 pm

treygoony wrote:If that was bacon face and rooney scored an onside goal that was given off he's guaranteed to get somebody sakced.

That's why the officials shit themselves when it comes to united cause they don't want to get sacked so they give utd all the decisions. But if Wenger starts to argue it's just "oh typical wenger with your excuses".

Pisses me off

The flag was up ages before he scored.

The penalty would have been generous and if given at our end most would have been seething.

Its Wenger and the players fault at the end of the day. The excuse culture at the club is cringeworthy and embarrassing.

cusamano · Post by **cusamano** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:26 pm

Sutch wrote:What a fucking load of fucking spineless shit, I thought they might learn from fucking Birmingham, but no yet again they fuck up when the chance is right there. As long as Denilson, Rosicky, Clichy, Bendtner all get their 100 grand a week and new contracts though right? What a shit seven days this has been

absolutely right

Irish Gooner · Post by **Irish Gooner** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:30 pm

Andrei says Shhhhh wrote:
cheryl_wants_eboue wrote:FFS, what really pisses me off is you'll get the standard, "Typical Arsenal", "no back bone", "march flops". But todays ref decisions were a joke, yet no one will highlight that. This would never happen to utd, and is why "they win games when they dnt play well". Always get the f****g decisions. Gutted.
Whilst we have genuine concerns regarding the quality of our squad.

There no doubt whatsoever we would be top of the league right now if it wasn't for piss poor refereeing we have endured this season.

Utterly ridiculous assessment. Starting to sound like Scousers.

The game today was not decided by the referee but a piss poor performance and good goalkeeping by Sunderland.

United get the rub of the green but the fact is if this team was good enough we would be top, it's nothing to do with referees.

The Wenger blame anyone but ourselves mantra is still in force, this actually is what destroys our squads metal belief.

JudoKilli · Post by **JudoKilli** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:30 pm

Irish Gooner wrote: The flag was up ages before he scored.

The penalty would have been generous and if given at our end most would have been seething.

Its Wenger and the players fault at the end of the day. The excuse culture at the club is cringeworthy and embarrassing.

Disagree.

The penalty incident was clearly a penalty. First a pull on the arm, then when Arshavin dispatched of him he placed two hands on his back with a forward motion (pushed him). Commentators (text and spoken) all said it was a clear penalty. Yes we would be seething if it were at our end, but only because of how stupid it would have been for a defender to do that.

Yes the flag was up, but it shouldn't have been. Because he raised his flag quickly does that make it justifiable to make a wrong call?

Irish Gooner · Post by **Irish Gooner** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:36 pm

JudoKilli wrote:
Irish Gooner wrote: The flag was up ages before he scored.

The penalty would have been generous and if given at our end most would have been seething.

Its Wenger and the players fault at the end of the day. The excuse culture at the club is cringeworthy and embarrassing.
Disagree.

The penalty incident was clearly a penalty. First a pull on the arm, then when Arshavin dispatched of him he placed two hands on his back with a forward motion (pushed him). Commentators (text and spoken) all said it was a clear penalty. Yes we would be seething if it were at our end, but only because of how stupid it would have been for a defender to do that.

Yes the flag was up, but it shouldn't have been. Because he raised his flag quickly does that make it justifiable to make a wrong call?

No the flag was up, so scoring into an empty net is irrelevant when the goalkeeper and defenders have stopped play.

The penalty incident, pull on the arm? Miniscule and you are just ading it for effect.

The push was something that happens up and down the country in every match when a striker is about to shoot.

Just because it maybe a foul at the Stretford End, doesnt mean its in the rulebook. We would be rightly fuming if the ref gave that to Sunderland today.

This blame the referee culture is laughable really. Barring the Newcastle game I cant remember too many points we've lost partly because of referees.

And even in that game 90% of the goals were our own doing.

Sutch · Post by **Sutch** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:38 pm

If the goal was onside, it doesn't matter if the flag is up before it's scored or not, linesmen are too unreliable and corrupt nowadays anyway, until theres some way of using tagging to tell if someone's offside soon, were going to moan about these *word censored* officials for years to come.

greengooner · Post by **greengooner** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:39 pm

Bendtners Drinking Buddy wrote:
greengooner wrote:not really a surprise, shower of bottling wankers
Absolute bollocks - could not disgree with this more.

I really hope someone backs me up here when i say this - but "bottling it" is not true, not by a million miles.

Was there quality missing? Clearly yes.

Would VP, Cesc and Walcott made a difference? Clearly yes.

Were we denied a stonewall pen and had a good goal ruled out? Clearly yes.

The problem we had was quality in the final third today, i will gladly agree that the squad needs improving, il agree we did not play well enough in the first half......but to call them "bottlers" is not true at all, not one fucking bit.

is this not the best squad bonehead has ever had, surely if they had a spine the quality of the squad plaers would shine through enough to beat the likes of Sunderland,
a crowd of overpaid molly coddled journeymen bottlers who trive on the cringe making excuses of our great leader

USMartin · Post by **USMartin** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:39 pm

JudoKilli wrote:
Irish Gooner wrote: The flag was up ages before he scored.

The penalty would have been generous and if given at our end most would have been seething.

Its Wenger and the players fault at the end of the day. The excuse culture at the club is cringeworthy and embarrassing.
Disagree.

The penalty incident was clearly a penalty. First a pull on the arm, then when Arshavin dispatched of him he placed two hands on his back with a forward motion (pushed him). Commentators (text and spoken) all said it was a clear penalty. Yes we would be seething if it were at our end, but only because of how stupid it would have been for a defender to do that.

Yes the flag was up, but it shouldn't have been. Because he raised his flag quickly does that make it justifiable to make a wrong call?

The ref and lino were so bad they sould not be allowed out again at the premiership level, no doubt. But doesn't worry you that that is what this match should come down to? We used to reoutine dust teams like this with two and three and even four top players missing, home or away. Now we can't even get the narrowest win ayt home unless the refs give us the decisions?

Post by **g88ner** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:41 pm

I think they tried their best but they lacked quality. We just aren't the same when Cesc isn't playing, and RvP gives us something extra too. The players who come into the team like Rosicky, Denilson, Diaby and Bendtner just haven't done enough. Chamakh was key in the opening months, but by his own admission he's shot his load and has been massively disappointing... and, of course, he should have scored with that header today

Our first XI this season probably deserves the title... sadly, the squad doesn't.

The ref and linesman have hardly helped, but I'm sick of the excuses... we need to win these games. 13pts dropped at home is shocking.

Still, they clearly tried their best so onwards we go to the Nou Camp, trying to salvage a season that could be going off the rails...

1989 · Post by **1989** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:41 pm

Wenger is just a curse on the club now. The sooner he moves on, the better.

defleppardisking · Post by **defleppardisking** » Sat Mar 05, 2011 5:41 pm

cj88 wrote:
defleppardisking wrote:
cj88 wrote:
defleppardisking wrote:I refused to blame the referee. I blame Wenger and his bunch of pussies. How many more of this shit do we have to put up with. It's so unbelievable
bunch of pussies? What game were you watching?
The same game as you were just watching
The fact that Denilson and Diaby are shite and can't play in well with Wilshere in midfield doesn't make them pussies, just makes Denilson and Diaby shite. We were a lot more threatening when Chamakh came on.

Overall, credit to Sagna (this bloke runs his socks off day in and day out and goes unnoticed for the most bit), Nasri, Wilshere, Szczesny, Djourou, Koscielny and Arshavin. I still have my doubts with Clichy..We weren't good enough in the first half and were robbed by the ref in the second.

just my 2 cents.

Well to me Denilson and Diaby are not just shit. They are pussies. No passion, desire and winning mentality. Same goes to Bendtner, Rosicky, Clichy. Why the hell they are still at the club I really dun know. It's shocking that we have so many below par players at the club and after few yrs some are still here playing and collecting their big fat pay cheque